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Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.11.19 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO on 19/11/2008 16:03:42 wtf does that even mean? how the **** could you possibly hide a tower with items when you can filter the damn thing on overview? |

Mr shifta
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Posted - 2008.11.19 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Mr shifta on 19/11/2008 16:04:41 i was thinking the very same thing..., im conf00zd now |

Martin Mckenna
Shake n Bake
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Posted - 2008.11.19 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 19/11/2008 16:05:46
I think by placing items offgrid near a towers grid will cause the grid to shift to accomidate for the item out there. Grids are not static.
Becuase towers are not usualy at 0 to the warpin point you could therefore possibly move the grid out of the range of the pos.
Thats how i see it working anyways |

Sniper Wolf18
Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:16:00 -
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Clever, but discussing stuff like this on forums = lockage usually, CCP dosent like people discussing exploits. And above all, read my sig! |

Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Clever, but discussing stuff like this on forums = lockage usually, CCP dosent like people discussing exploits.
True but CCP didn't explain what was actually happening in the exploit. I know that some exploit descriptions necessarily must be kept cryptic, but others (such as, for instance, the Black Ops jump drive being used to evade CONCORD) can only really be adequately described in a straightforward way. I personally have no idea how to perform the exploit of tower hiding, so how do I know I'm not hiding towers unintentionally? Not that I've been setting up many towers lately but whatever.
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Tasty Bit
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:40:00 -
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"Strategically placing items in grids around POS towers for the purpose of hiding the towers is an exploit and action will be taken against those found doing it."
And they obviously know for sure that stuff placed in the vicinity of (how ****ing far from the POS does this need to be) was done "strategically". And can ban people (or take other action) in good conscience.
4tfl.
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SencneS
Amarr Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2008.11.19 17:45:00 -
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Placing as in Anchoring or just jetting something?
That wasn't clear, it needs to be more clear, you're saying we can't place something somewhere but not telling us how we can't do it.
Amarr for Life |

Gane Green
Gallente Dominus Imperium
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Posted - 2008.11.19 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gane Green on 19/11/2008 19:42:41 Well cant you probe down the tower and find its exact location? Doing exploration I have found countless POS's with probes. If God was a number he would be over 9,000!!!!!!!!! |

Sniper Wolf18
Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.11.19 19:44:00 -
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The exploit is, placing a sign beside the pos saying "POS is not here, you didnt see nuthin" due to the influx of new players over 9000% of them fall for it! And above all, read my sig! |

Captain Politics
JotunHeim Hird X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.19 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Politics on 19/11/2008 19:52:31 Well to get a full version of what this exploit is go here...
"SEP field", Someone else's problem (Douglas Adams)
I fail at linking... Look here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_Else's_Problem |

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.19 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Politics Edited by: Captain Politics on 19/11/2008 19:50:15 Well to get a full version of what this exploit is go here...
"SEP field", Someone else's problem (Douglas Adams)
Of course! Page not found! It's so simple!!! |

Captain Politics
JotunHeim Hird X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.19 19:54:00 -
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Somebody Else's Problem field Lord's Cricket Ground, London, Douglas Adams has his character Ford Prefect describe Somebody Else's Problem in Life, the Universe and Everything, the third book of the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series:
ô An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem.... The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot. If you look at it directly you won't see it unless you know precisely what it is. Your only hope is to catch it by surprise out of the corner of your eye. ö
The technology required to actually make something invisible is so complex and unreliable that it isn't worth the bother. The "Somebody Else's Problem field" is much simpler and more effective, and "can be run for over a hundred years on a single torch battery."
ô This is because it relies on people's natural predisposition not to see anything they don't want to, weren't expecting, or can't explain. ö
In this case, the Starship Bistromath ("a small upended Italian bistro" with "guidance fins, rocket engines and escape hatches") has been hidden from the crowd watching a Cricket match at Lord's by an SEP field. People may see it, but they take absolutely no notice of it.
The book says that the SEP field is derived from Bistromathics and in particular the concept of an imaginary number called a "recipriversexcluson" whose existence can only be defined as being anything other than itself. Modern science has been slow to investigate this further, though Professor John Wettlaufer (of Yale University) has apparently observed that it is very important for physicists working outside the mainstream "to have a genuine interest in learning about someone else's problem". However, he admitted that "not many people want to do this".[12]
The "Somebody Else's Problem" label is now in widespread use, perhaps due to the popularity of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books, and has become a useful tool for presenting and analysing situations.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.11.19 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gane Green Well cant you probe down the tower and find its exact location? Doing exploration I have found countless POS's with probes.
Yes but I think in the case of this exploit when you get there the pos will not be or something along those lines. |

Gane Green
Gallente Dominus Imperium
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Posted - 2008.11.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Gane Green Well cant you probe down the tower and find its exact location? Doing exploration I have found countless POS's with probes.
Yes but I think in the case of this exploit when you get there the pos will not be or something along those lines.
If that is the case then good luck on fueling said POS and using it for anything if its offline anchored at a moon you can petition to get it removed. If God was a number he would be over 9,000!!!!!!!!! |

Alora Venoda
GalTech
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Posted - 2008.11.19 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gane Green
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Gane Green Well cant you probe down the tower and find its exact location? Doing exploration I have found countless POS's with probes.
Yes but I think in the case of this exploit when you get there the pos will not be or something along those lines.
If that is the case then good luck on fueling said POS and using it for anything if its offline anchored at a moon you can petition to get it removed.
wouldn't a bookmark directly to the tower still get you there? ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.
Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application. |

GeneralNukeEm
Free Collective Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.11.19 23:40:00 -
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Does placing 500 capital ships on grid in a way such as to make the viewing of the POS impossible from any way count? 
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