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Jovoich Infestation. R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.11.19 17:44:00 - [1] It must have been one of the first ones built, but sadly its currently in the hands of a Macro miner (yes macros do have hands) Anywho If you're wanting to gank one of these lovely ships. Its currently sat in Otela's Ice belt dishing out gang bonuses to the other chars. Thanks Me. P.s. CCP I've filed about 2-3 petitions about these guys.
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2008.11.19 17:55:00 - [2] I've been thinking about the effects macro miners have on the game. I think they drive mineral prices down so I pay less for just about everything. There is also plenty of rocks to mine so I don't think I'm competing with them for rocks. What's your beaf with macro miners? If it has a SAVE button...I'm not interested.
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit	Posted - 2008.11.19 18:00:00 - [3] Edited by: Terranid Meester on 19/11/2008 18:00:24 Originally by: ArcDragon I've been thinking about the effects macro miners have on the game. I think they drive mineral prices down so I pay less for just about everything. There is also plenty of rocks to mine so I don't think I'm competing with them for rocks. What's your beaf with macro miners? 1. Its against the rules 2. It hurts legitimate players who want to make isk 3. Its cheating. 4. Is often used by isk farmers. 5. Puts people in the mentality that macro mining is ok when its clearly not. 6. Any other legitimate reasons.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.11.19 18:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Jovoich It must have been one of the first ones built, but sadly its currently in the hands of a Macro miner (yes macros do have hands) Anywho If you're wanting to gank one of these lovely ships. Its currently sat in Otela's Ice belt dishing out gang bonuses to the other chars. Thanks Me. P.s. CCP I've filed about 2-3 petitions about these guys. are you 100% sure that its in the hands of a macro miner? i didnt think macro programs were "intelligent" enough to use a ship that cant really mine Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Seragon Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.11.19 18:22:00 - [5] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 are you 100% sure that its in the hands of a macro miner? i didnt think macro programs were "intelligent" enough to use a ship that cant really mine It doesn't take a lot of work to undock a ship and click a gang booster once every 23 hours. I have an alt who sits at a POS and does this for corpmates when I'm at work.
shuckstar Gallente Hauling hogs	Posted - 2008.11.19 19:05:00 - [6] CCP dont care about macro miners never have, don't waste your time petitioning them becuase nothing ever comes of it.
Jovoich Infestation. R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.11.19 19:16:00 - [7] 1) I dont like macros for the reason listed above. 2) I know for a fact they are macros. 3) It don't matter who it belongs to :) still a nice gank.
MirrorGod Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.11.19 20:05:00 - [8] KILL IT WITH FIRE\o/
Philis McCrakin	Posted - 2008.11.19 21:11:00 - [9] Send in the Achura! The Japanese like killing whales.
ponieus the united	Posted - 2008.11.19 21:44:00 - [10] Originally by: shuckstar CCP dont care about macro miners never have, don't waste your time petitioning them becuase nothing ever comes of it. QFT (had comfirmation on this also) Think about it macro or not they are subscribing alot of accounts. So why should they care. In the end they get the money from the subs.
Bfoster The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.11.19 22:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Terranid Meester Edited by: Terranid Meester on 19/11/2008 18:00:24 Originally by: ArcDragon I've been thinking about the effects macro miners have on the game. I think they drive mineral prices down so I pay less for just about everything. There is also plenty of rocks to mine so I don't think I'm competing with them for rocks. What's your beaf with macro miners? 1. Its against the rules 2. It hurts legitimate players who want to make isk 3. Its cheating. 4. Is often used by isk farmers. 5. Puts people in the mentality that macro mining is ok when its clearly not. 6. Any other legitimate reasons. ^^ Yup! ----------------------------------------------- My Killboard
Karando Random Goods	Posted - 2008.11.19 22:17:00 - [12] oh hai jov
Jovoich Infestation. R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.11.19 22:41:00 - [13] EDIT - Two Orcas in the Otela ice belt.
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.19 22:45:00 - [14] Sounds like it's worth checking how smartbomb-resistant that thing is.
Ballista III	Posted - 2008.11.19 22:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Nadarius Chrome Sounds like it's worth checking how smartbomb-resistant that thing is. this. i would come if my sec werent soo low. although i would suggest suicide torp ravens. prolly dish out more dps than SB can.
Jovoich Infestation. R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.11.20 00:50:00 - [16] Edited by: Jovoich on 20/11/2008 00:51:52 Ming Xiau's Orca This person is 100% a macro. He has been in Otela for atleast the last 12mnths. I once got to talk to the person behind the macro and he admitted he was doing it for a big 0.0 alliance. Fittings High - Mining Forman Link - Laser Op Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Med - 4x T2 LSE Low - 1x T2 DC 1x T2 PDS ------------------------------------------------------------ BerlinPhoenix's Orca Second time I've seen this person in the belt. But he is serving as a hauler for 5 Macks, convo requests and mails to all pilots havnt been unanswered. But at the end of the day, who gives a **** if there macros if you're going to gank em!? High- No high slots found after about 10 scans Med- 1x T2 Invul field 1x T2 Heat Dissipation Amp 1x T2 Kinetic Deflection Amp 1x T2 EM Amp Low- 2x T2 Cargohold Rigs- 2x T2 Cargohold Optimization 1x T1 Cargohold Optimization
Mika Meroko Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc	Posted - 2008.11.20 04:32:00 - [17] yeah, that thing is tanked, you wont be able to damage it... but yeah, on the "macro" note.. I bet ya is some Farmer somewhere with lots of computers .. with.. yeah... When GMs goes to check up on those guys... if SOMEONE respond to the GM...(the farmer or his buddies).. then GM cant do much to them... heres the thing, they need concrete proof that those guys are breaking the EULA (selling isk) before they can nail them... that takes awhile.... and if there is a human behind there monitoring it.... is really hard to nail... Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2008.11.20 04:37:00 - [18] suicide ganking lower the sec status hit on npc corpers to 10% that of players in corps
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.20 06:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Philis McCrakin Send in the Achura! The Japanese like killing whales. Hahahah.... But srsly... Kill macros. With faction police not scrambling... If I could get a BS to the system and a station that undocks directly toward the belt I could probably get a bunch of -10's to go do it... not like we mind the sec hit. But then it'd probably get called an exploit and faction police would get their scramblers back
Lord Saradomin Gallente The Vorlon Empire Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.11.20 08:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Mika Meroko on the "macro" note.. I bet ya is some Farmer somewhere with lots of computers .. with.. yeah... When GMs goes to check up on those guys... if SOMEONE respond to the GM...(the farmer or his buddies).. then GM cant do much to them... heres the thing, they need concrete proof that those guys are breaking the EULA (selling isk) before they can nail them... that takes awhile.... and if there is a human behind there monitoring it.... is really hard to nail... Technically someone with 5 or more computers playing the game on each...there's nothing wrong with this, hell I know people with 10+ accounts playing each one, if they are selling isk for RL money then yeah that's an ISK Farmer. However the above is NOT a macro!!! A macro is a third party program which "plays" the game for you. < Also breaking the rules but meh annoys me when people moan but don't understand the actual problem itself. Also I very much doubt CCP's method of finding these is simply trying to open a convo with them Well....I hope there's more to it they are trying to do! Eve Online: QR = welcome to Assault Frigate Online
RnProphet The Bastards	Posted - 2008.11.20 10:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Lord Saradomin Also I very much doubt CCP's method of finding these is simply trying to open a convo with them CCP actualy bumps the macros with polaris frigs to see if they can mess them up. JK
Arri Gato	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:45:00 - [22] Originally by: Philis McCrakin Send in the Achura! The Japanese like killing whales. Why turn to the Japanese, when Icelandic whalers are doing their filthy jobs as we speak...?
SeFoN The Secret Fleet The Firm.	Posted - 2008.11.20 12:23:00 - [23] Yeh Kill Them Hai Jov :D
Doonoo Boonoo Amarr Hedion University	Posted - 2008.11.20 12:50:00 - [24] Edited by: Doonoo Boonoo on 20/11/2008 12:52:45 Originally by: Jovoich Edited by: Jovoich on 20/11/2008 00:51:52 I once got to talk to the person behind the macro and he admitted he was doing it for a big 0.0 alliance. Chatlogs? Or......Jovoich is a Macrominer and an Isk seller . I know this 100% because I spoke to the person controlling her and was told the whole corp is doing it. The Orca pilot she/he names above is a competitor to her own Macromining operation and he/she wants them moved on. D'ya see how it works?
Kaya Valda Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.11.20 13:12:00 - [25] Originally by: Jovoich This person is 100% a macro. He has been in Otela for atleast the last 12mnths. I once got to talk to the person behind the macro and he admitted he was doing it for a big 0.0 alliance. That's right, because marco miners often get together in corps and alliances so that when one of them gets nailed all the others can be found out really quickly.... Or alternatively it is a bunch of miners that stick to the same system mining all the time. How unusual! Miners really are that dull you know.
Lord Saradomin Gallente The Vorlon Empire Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.11.20 13:50:00 - [26] Edited by: Lord Saradomin on 20/11/2008 13:50:28 Originally by: RnProphet CCP actualy bumps the macros with polaris frigs to see if they can mess them up. JK edit: fail quote is fail Eve Online: QR = welcome to Assault Frigate Online
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.11.20 14:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Kaya Valda Originally by: Jovoich This person is 100% a macro. He has been in Otela for atleast the last 12mnths. I once got to talk to the person behind the macro and he admitted he was doing it for a big 0.0 alliance. That's right, because marco miners often get together in corps and alliances so that when one of them gets nailed all the others can be found out really quickly.... Or alternatively it is a bunch of miners that stick to the same system mining all the time. How unusual! Miners really are that dull you know. You'd be surprised. Hi KIA/Daisho Calm Your Passion
ArcDragon Caldari FUSION INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2008.11.20 16:28:00 - [28] I've read the entire thread and I can now confirm that I really don't care about macro miners either. Good luck to you Jovoich.
Jovoich Infestation. R.U.R.	Posted - 2008.11.20 16:39:00 - [29] Originally by: ArcDragon I've read the entire thread and I can now confirm that I really don't care about macro miners either. Good luck to you Jovoich. You see, your kind of getting the wrong point of the post. The point is, if you wanna blow up an Orca... this is where two are! If I had the ability to blow them up myself, I would gladly do it just to **** someone off. The fact that they are indeed macros is just the cheery on the top for me.
Daoi Sith	Posted - 2008.11.20 21:09:00 - [30] Edited by: Daoi Sith on 20/11/2008 21:12:05 Edited by: Daoi Sith on 20/11/2008 21:10:26 Originally by: Terranid Meester Edited by: Terranid Meester on 19/11/2008 18:00:24 Originally by: ArcDragon I've been thinking about the effects macro miners have on the game. I think they drive mineral prices down so I pay less for just about everything. There is also plenty of rocks to mine so I don't think I'm competing with them for rocks. What's your beaf with macro miners? 1. Its against the rules 2. It hurts legitimate players who want to make isk 3. Its cheating. 4. Is often used by isk farmers. 5. Puts people in the mentality that macro mining is ok when its clearly not. 6. Any other legitimate reasons. haha fail reasons are highly PHAIL #1 and #3 are basically the same #2 is a valid reason #4 is a big 'so what' unless it relates to #2 #5 & #6 are not reasons. they are just whining about #1 so, #2 is the only valid reason you posted for something you seem to care so much about, you barely tried and the truth is, its not hard to find roids. move to a different system. you have no way to tell a macro from a valid bored afk miner. they are identical. mining lasers begin and end on timed cycles, so even timing someone is not valid proof. does this explain to you why CCP cant and wont do anything about it ? every single "fix" people suggest can be countered by a valid real player game mechanic / response

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