Originally by: Eli Whitney

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I like to see you weigh it by skill multiplier as well if you want to bother. Because some stats have a lot of skills with very high multipliers, while others don't have so many level 5 skills or whatever.

Another useful thing to look at might be a combat oriented character, who will never train down the science tree. He probably dosen't need as much intel and memory since he will be skipping about 30 science skills.

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Originally by: Eli Whitney

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I like to see you weigh it by skill multiplier as well if you want to bother. Because some stats have a lot of skills with very high multipliers, while others don't have so many level 5 skills or whatever.

Another useful thing to look at might be a combat oriented character, who will never train down the science tree. He probably dosen't need as much intel and memory since he will be skipping about 30 science skills.

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Originally by: Blackpool

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Weighted by Ranks you get:
Number of ranks for primary skills + 1/2 the number of ranks in secondary skills

Intelligence = 216.5
Perception = 166.5
Charisma = 28
Willpower = 80.5
Memory = 182

The ratios are still very similar.
But just how many people are going to train all 17 of the rank 5 science skills for R&D.

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Originally by: Blackpool

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Weighted by Ranks you get:
Number of ranks for primary skills + 1/2 the number of ranks in secondary skills

Intelligence = 216.5
Perception = 166.5
Charisma = 28
Willpower = 80.5
Memory = 182

The ratios are still very similar.
But just how many people are going to train all 17 of the rank 5 science skills for R&D.

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Originally by: Nafri

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mhh i have high int and memorey, but its not working when your a fighter

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Originally by: Nafri

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mhh i have high int and memorey, but its not working when your a fighter

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Originally by: Aitrus

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Edited by: Aitrus on 09/07/2004 12:02:22
I was bored looking through the skill tree in the Eve-I Character manager, and decided to see just how many skills have each attribute as primary and secondary.
Heres the results:

(Attribute - #of skills with primary - #of secondary)
Intelligence - 64 - 36
Perception - 42 - 16
Charisma - 6 - 14
Willpower - 11 - 42
Memory - 41 - 56

I think we can already see an imbalance as to which attributes are used the most. But I took it further. Since in skill training the primary attribute applies for full value, and the secondary counts for half, I applied the same logic to get a weighted comparison of the attributes.

Weighted value = #of primary skills + (#of secondary / 2)

We get the following:
Intelligence = 82
Perception = 50
Charisma = 13
Willpower = 32
Memory = 69

So there is a definite heierarchy of Attributes. Intelligence, Memory, Perception, Willpower, Charisma.

What does this mean? Well a character with their attribute points spent properly (intel highest, memory next highest, etc) will train faster than someone with high values in other attributes. (perhaps not in the beginning. But the longer the player trains, the further ahead he will be)

It is also obvious that some attributes are VERY borked. (Willpower and Charisma) This being the case some racial types in game are at a considerable disadvantage. (True Amarr being high willpower, Ni-Kunni being high charisma, for example.)

Is anything going to be done to even out this imbalance? I mean, I've been playing for a year now, and I'm regretting not re-rolling early on as I have a natural 16 in charisma. It's a completely wasted stat!

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Originally by: Aitrus

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Edited by: Aitrus on 09/07/2004 12:02:22
I was bored looking through the skill tree in the Eve-I Character manager, and decided to see just how many skills have each attribute as primary and secondary.
Heres the results:

(Attribute - #of skills with primary - #of secondary)
Intelligence - 64 - 36
Perception - 42 - 16
Charisma - 6 - 14
Willpower - 11 - 42
Memory - 41 - 56

I think we can already see an imbalance as to which attributes are used the most. But I took it further. Since in skill training the primary attribute applies for full value, and the secondary counts for half, I applied the same logic to get a weighted comparison of the attributes.

Weighted value = #of primary skills + (#of secondary / 2)

We get the following:
Intelligence = 82
Perception = 50
Charisma = 13
Willpower = 32
Memory = 69

So there is a definite heierarchy of Attributes. Intelligence, Memory, Perception, Willpower, Charisma.

What does this mean? Well a character with their attribute points spent properly (intel highest, memory next highest, etc) will train faster than someone with high values in other attributes. (perhaps not in the beginning. But the longer the player trains, the further ahead he will be)

It is also obvious that some attributes are VERY borked. (Willpower and Charisma) This being the case some racial types in game are at a considerable disadvantage. (True Amarr being high willpower, Ni-Kunni being high charisma, for example.)

Is anything going to be done to even out this imbalance? I mean, I've been playing for a year now, and I'm regretting not re-rolling early on as I have a natural 16 in charisma. It's a completely wasted stat!

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