EVE Search - [Ambulation] Adults RPing

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

[Ambulation] Adults RPing

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 2 post(s)
Ralarina	Posted - 2008.11.22 19:42:00 - [31] Originally by: OldWolfe Aren't you forgetting deaf gamers like me that plays EVE? We don't exactly have that option to "listen" in to vocal conversations. That's why it's called a DISability. As in, you don't have the ability to do something.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.22 19:50:00 - [32] Has anyone thought of blind people? Why hasn't CCP invented a braille version of Eve! God damn I hate them so much. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.22 20:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Ralarina Originally by: OldWolfe Aren't you forgetting deaf gamers like me that plays EVE? We don't exactly have that option to "listen" in to vocal conversations. That's why it's called a DISability. As in, you don't have the ability to do something. Yeah, I mean, not to sound mean but can't limit a game because some people have disabilities.. Then we'd have a game without color, without sound and no numbers because I can't count. I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. Click Here!
Plim Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute	Posted - 2008.11.22 20:15:00 - [34] I think the implication was that it is difficult for deaf people, if the mediums of communication exclusively use sound. But we could just respond with abrasive unconstrucive nonsense. LOLs WHY DOn'T WEZ JUST MAKE EVE INTO A SHOE BOX? ---- Failing to understand your crazy epicycles since 2003.
OldWolfe The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.22 20:23:00 - [35] Let me repeat: EVE-online is a 100% visual based game, not 100% audio base game. In fact, EVE does not and will not rely exclusively on sounds. So why even bother asking for such things for the ambulation? And I do not and have not ever considered myself disabled. The reality is, those who takes their eyesight for granted are the one that disables themselves, forgetting that the world around them is visual based and not audio based. Just try and play EVE with only sounds and with absolutely no visual aspects or aides to back up that sound. That will help you guys quickly gain the respect for your eyesight and hopefully make you guys equally less biased towards others that have different ways of approaching life instead of idiotically and narrow mindbogglingly insulting them. Seriously, grow up.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.22 20:26:00 - [36] That post made me gain respect for my intelligence. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Gray Wizard	Posted - 2008.11.22 20:36:00 - [37] Edited by: Gray Wizard on 22/11/2008 20:38:54 Originally by: Darth Insidius Originally by: OldWolfe Originally by: CCP Atropos I know that with the voice communication between avatars, we wanted to allow people to be able to have private conversations, as you can through normal chat channels. To this end, we were going to have more of a general background hubbub rather than the exact conversations going on. This way, you could hear people chatting but not pick out any specifics, except for the fact that two people were engaged in a private conversation. For those in the conversation, you would notice when people came close and appeared to be loitering, thus allowing you either to include them into the conversation, or to move off elsewhere to maintain privacy, or to be aggressive towards the interloper. I'll poke Eris and point her this way Aren't you forgetting deaf gamers like me that plays EVE? We don't exactly have that option to "listen" in to vocal conversations. I'm blind. you want to spend 2 years teaching your guide dog to fly a nano-vaga in PVP only to have to start over teaching a labrador how cycle Falcon ecm. you think you got problems. meh. LMAO washes the soda off his monitor They'll have to nerf the dog whistle over Eve voice exploit

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2008.11.22 20:38:00 - [38] We wouldn't take away the text based conversations, so if that is sufficient for your needs, and EVE-Voice isn't an option, then problem solved

Soleramnus Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.22 20:39:00 - [39] Edited by: Soleramnus on 22/11/2008 20:41:08 Edited by: Soleramnus on 22/11/2008 20:39:53 Geez people, sensitivity much? Are you all the people who refuse to have ramps at restaurants because they "look bad" in front? Accessibility and compatibility IS an issue in todays world, from architecture and construction to coding websites so that people with screenreaders can use them. This is not a situation where "Adapt or die" applies. If there's a way to make the game accessible to people who obviously can't access the audio aspects of the game, but is yet required to play the game, then I think it should be explored. EDIT: IE dev post above.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.11.22 21:07:00 - [40] like has already been said, its not CCP's responsibility, the game is rated for Teens because of the game CONTENT (like shooting ships, fantasy violence and the occasional "those damn pirates" in mission briefings) if some kid walks in on a conversation and hears a few "bad words" and goes all psycho and shoots up his school, its not CCP's fault nor the people he walked in on (in their conversation) its the kids parents fault for allowing thier child to play a game where them being exposed to this kind of stuff is possible, because they are supposed to read the EULA (the kids parents) which im sure could easily be changed when ambulation does come out Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Cyber Blue Gallente Cyber Blue Consulting	Posted - 2008.11.22 21:26:00 - [41] Originally by: OldWolfe Let me repeat: EVE-online is a 100% visual based game, not 100% audio base game. In fact, EVE does not and will not rely exclusively on sounds. So why even bother asking for such things for the ambulation? And I do not and have not ever considered myself disabled. The reality is, those who takes their eyesight for granted are the one that disables themselves, forgetting that the world around them is visual based and not audio based. Just try and play EVE with only sounds and with absolutely no visual aspects or aides to back up that sound. That will help you guys quickly gain the respect for your eyesight and hopefully make you guys equally less biased towards others that have different ways of approaching life instead of idiotically and narrow mindbogglingly insulting them. Seriously, grow up. It seems like to me you are the one biased against people that can hear. You claim EVE is 100% visual and I say how can you know being you are deaf? Speaking for myself, I would not play the game if there was no audio. We as people have every right to ask for something, regardless if you think it is worthless or not. I really doubt anyone here takes their eyesight for granted. There is no reason for anyone to limit their abilities just because someone else does not have that ability. Not to mention in another post you claimed, let me see, In the real world, audio is still not a primary sense out of all 5 senses. Visual cues runs the world. That is a false statement. Since you are deaf, I guess you really can't comprehend how much audio is in fact used. Some people want text, some want audio, there is nothing wrong with having both. Getting all bent out of shape because people that can hear and use sound in their lives want some audio chat added into ambulation is wrong on your part. You say grow up to everyone and I think you need to take your own advice as well. End of line...
Kita Radeon Gallente Hakata Group Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.22 22:51:00 - [42] Originally by: Soleramnus Edited by: Soleramnus on 22/11/2008 20:41:08 Edited by: Soleramnus on 22/11/2008 20:39:53 Geez people, sensitivity much? Are you all the people who refuse to have ramps at restaurants because they "look bad" in front? No, but I would rather keep the stairs as well, even though some unfortunate few cannot use them and have to use the ramp. wolf, how do you interact in fleets? I assume you would have someone type up the commands comming through from ts/vent. The same can be done in bars, right? Also, just because you can read lips and read body language doesnt mean that the rest of us can, so for us audio is still rather important. And yeah, alot of people do have headphones and a mic, if not at least speakers. Big fleet fights would be a hell of alot harder. without verbal orders. Alot of people rely on audio in eve. Sorry, but its not going to stop just because you have to use text ---- All my opinions are poorly thought out and do NOT represent my Corp, Alliance, or self when I am Sober.
Bentula	Posted - 2008.11.22 22:56:00 - [43] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 like has already been said, its not CCP's responsibility, the game is rated for Teens because of the game CONTENT (like shooting ships, fantasy violence and the occasional "those damn pirates" in mission briefings) if some kid walks in on a conversation and hears a few "bad words" and goes all psycho and shoots up his school, its not CCP's fault nor the people he walked in on (in their conversation) its the kids parents fault for allowing thier child to play a game where them being exposed to this kind of stuff is possible, because they are supposed to read the EULA (the kids parents) which im sure could easily be changed when ambulation does come out Well that is kinda my stance on it, however its not the situation we currently have with the text interface is it? And the game content changes dramatically with ambulation. We literally go from small face pictures and spaceships(rawr strip that thorax) to fully animated toons shaking what their momma gave them. Not saying we are getting anywhere close to a 18+ rating, but surely the current eula policy which applys mostly to text chat in fixed channels cant be applied directly to voice chat in completly different setting? Lets go for a different example. Imagine a pirate getting abused in ambulation by a recent unhappy customer who implies he has a explicit relationship with his housepet in RL and is related to said pet on top of it. Now that poor pirate is deeply hurt because such a thing would offend his insert generic angry deity and his god demands such verbal offenses being reported to officials. So being a devout fellower of insert generic angry deity he petitions the offender for haressment stating that he is most definitly not related to his pet to the best of his knowledge. Now if this had taken course via eve mail or chat the GM would check the logs to confirm the accusations brought forth(only those of the pirate, its unlikly he cares about the accusations of the angry customer), and depending on severity and maybe angry customers history either take action or not. But this has taken place with eve voice, which is part of the game. However i doubt CCP is saving audio logs of every conversation taking place(technical difficulties), which leads to three possibilitys: A) All petitions pertaining to haressment and eve voice get ignored. You can in effect say anything to anyone in any way you like. <-- This fits the EVE world best and has the most RP potentional cause it allows the existence of socalled bastards or *******s which are a integer part of the eve experience. B) The GM promptly takes action against angry customer cause he beliefs the petitioner. Alternativly he flips a coin to determine who of the involved parties gets a warning. C) GMs randomly and secrectly listen in of conversations in order to catch reported people red mouthed(handed ... whatever). So yeah thats my take on it. Ignore is plenty for me if people insult me, but this just doesnt seem to be CCPs stance on things. And i fear thats because they have some kind of legal obligation to police the game regarding this due to minors plaing the game, which is why i went at this from the kids angel in my starting post, which may have been a error on my part. @OldWolfe: I would recommed to make your own thread about how EVE Voice impacts the playability of the game for you due to your disabability. That way it gets the attention it deserves without getting derailed by people wanting to discuss at hand in this thread.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.22 23:04:00 - [44] if this game is rated teen then it is up to the parent to allow there children on to the game, it is always down to the parent to decide weather or not to adorn there children where older players might be pro activly taliking about adult subjects teen rating means there there maybe , language, violence and sexual scenes according to my BBFC and pegi rating training ( work in a game store ) when buying a game the consumer is alerted to the possibilities of content when buying a rated game CCP have done all they can by saying this this game is this rating through the BBFC/ PEGI rating and it not there responsibility The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.22 23:22:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP Atropos We wouldn't take away the text based conversations, so if that is sufficient for your needs, and EVE-Voice isn't an option, then problem solved You mean you are going to put in sign language in Ambulation. That is the only acceptable solution. :colbert: Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.11.22 23:45:00 - [46] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: CCP Atropos We wouldn't take away the text based conversations, so if that is sufficient for your needs, and EVE-Voice isn't an option, then problem solved You mean you are going to put in sign language in Ambulation. That is the only acceptable solution. :colbert: thats actully, an interesting idea. :P like for the visual of it while you text.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.22 23:51:00 - [47] "Adults RPing" Wait a minute, this is an oxymoron anyway. - DesuSigs
Irulan S'Dijana Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.11.22 23:53:00 - [48] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: CCP Atropos We wouldn't take away the text based conversations, so if that is sufficient for your needs, and EVE-Voice isn't an option, then problem solved You mean you are going to put in sign language in Ambulation. That is the only acceptable solution. :colbert: thats actully, an interesting idea. :P like for the visual of it while you text. Except there's multiple sign languages in the world. And I don't think people would be willing to learn a new language to play EVE.
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.23 00:44:00 - [49] Originally by: Irulan S'Dijana Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: CCP Atropos We wouldn't take away the text based conversations, so if that is sufficient for your needs, and EVE-Voice isn't an option, then problem solved You mean you are going to put in sign language in Ambulation. That is the only acceptable solution. :colbert: thats actully, an interesting idea. :P like for the visual of it while you text. Except there's multiple sign languages in the world. And I don't think people would be willing to learn a new language to play EVE. Yeah, I always found that very stupid.. Why can't there be one sign language? I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. Click Here!
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.23 01:21:00 - [50] because there not just one language ? im no language master but that might have something to do with it The EvE LifeÖ Blog bringing you the blogs that really matter working in conjunction with EVE Network NewsÖ

Pages: 1 [2] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.