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Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 04:31:00 - [1] So what the heck? NPCS can outrun me now? I used to be able to take off running and at the least be at the same speed as the NPS but now???? They go faster, so I cannot maintain my optimal and would have to give up a low-slot to do the same speed as a NPC? Hello???? Anyone Paying attention in your QC department?
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.11.23 04:35:00 - [2] ahahahahahahahahaha -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 04:46:00 - [3] Really though, they change stuff up for pvp it seems but don't give a damn about NPC's and missions. It's the only way I make money to do the friggin PVP in the first place and if they keep making it harder to keep my profit alive I'm going to leave so WTF?
Tyremis Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.23 04:51:00 - [4] empire whiners whine hardcore to get the nano nerf, it comes down then they whine about how it effects them in the belts and in missions you have to be **** ing kidding me. /shakes head
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 04:58:00 - [5] Edited by: Marcus Atredies on 23/11/2008 04:59:28 Edited by: Marcus Atredies on 23/11/2008 04:59:06 Edited by: Marcus Atredies on 23/11/2008 04:58:47 Hey small minded 0.0 gate camper, I didn't whine about any nano ships. I never experienced any nano ships. So go find another argument. Edit: nano ship not nerf.
Tyremis Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:02:00 - [6] the reason you are going slower than rats is because of the nano nerf patch all velocities on BS were adjusted. Deal with it. Stop whining.
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:06:00 - [7] You say "all" yet the NPC does the same velocity.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:11:00 - [8] If the fact that your battleship is 30% slower than it was is significantly affecting your NPCing, you are doing it wrong. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Tyremis the reason you are going slower than rats is because of the nano nerf patch all velocities on BS were adjusted. Deal with it. Stop whining. You say deal with it. Stop whining you say. And yet I see it as, I have to train more skills to arrive at the same spot I was a few weeks ago which means I Have spend more money to get where I was. You want me to stop whining about having to spend more money to do the same thing I was doing? Would you like to come over and mow my lawn for 10 dollars because I decided to nerf your wages? Didn't think so.
Tyremis Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Marcus Atredies You say "all" yet the NPC does the same velocity. the npcs also have unlimited cap, why do we not!!! nerf npcs damnit
Itphes	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:14:00 - [11] Hi, unfortunately it seems you're going to have to fit speed rigs or a speed module. Is this with an afterburner?
Tyremis Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Marcus Atredies Originally by: Tyremis the reason you are going slower than rats is because of the nano nerf patch all velocities on BS were adjusted. Deal with it. Stop whining. You say deal with it. Stop whining you say. And yet I see it as, I have to train more skills to arrive at the same spot I was a few weeks ago which means I Have spend more money to get where I was. You want me to stop whining about having to spend more money to do the same thing I was doing? Would you like to come over and mow my lawn for 10 dollars because I decided to nerf your wages? Didn't think so. the way this affects you is minor compared to the people that lost a year or more of skilltraining to go fast. I would think youd be more up in arms about the missile nerf.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Marcus Atredies Originally by: Tyremis the reason you are going slower than rats is because of the nano nerf patch all velocities on BS were adjusted. Deal with it. Stop whining. You say deal with it. Stop whining you say. And yet I see it as, I have to train more skills to arrive at the same spot I was a few weeks ago which means I Have spend more money to get where I was. You want me to stop whining about having to spend more money to do the same thing I was doing? Would you like to come over and mow my lawn for 10 dollars because I decided to nerf your wages? Didn't think so. Training anything in EVE, purchasing anything, comes with the possibility that it will be nerfed in the future. If you can't handle that, then it's really best you go hand your stuff over to one of many who will be happy to give it a nice home with an intelligent owner, and go play a single-player game. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:20:00 - [14] I have drones to compensate for the missile nerf. I'm concerned because my of my artillery not being able to hit targets that I could have normally paced with the old speed values.
Itphes	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:23:00 - [15] Hi, what ship are you doing missions in, and can you please post your fit?
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Marcus Atredies Originally by: Tyremis the reason you are going slower than rats is because of the nano nerf patch all velocities on BS were adjusted. Deal with it. Stop whining. You say deal with it. Stop whining you say. And yet I see it as, I have to train more skills to arrive at the same spot I was a few weeks ago which means I Have spend more money to get where I was. You want me to stop whining about having to spend more money to do the same thing I was doing? Would you like to come over and mow my lawn for 10 dollars because I decided to nerf your wages? Didn't think so. Training anything in EVE, purchasing anything, comes with the possibility that it will be nerfed in the future. If you can't handle that, then it's really best you go hand your stuff over to one of many who will be happy to give it a nice home with an intelligent owner, and go play a single-player game. And what, you would bend over and accept it? I for one would not want to continue spending my money in that fashion which is the reason that I am posting. Like I said, If I paid you 20 before and decided that I want to nerf what you were doing and now you have to pay me 10, where exactly does that sound like a fair deal?
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:25:00 - [17] Edited by: Marcus Atredies on 23/11/2008 05:25:33 Originally by: Itphes Hi, what ship are you doing missions in, and can you please post your fit? tempest 5 x 1200 artillery, 3 x Cruise 1 x Invul Field 1 x Shield booster 1 x Shield Amp 2 x Mission amplifier 2 x Gyro II 1 x BCU II 2 x PDU 1 x CPU 3 x Cap rigs
Alty MacAlterson Alt Corporation	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Marcus Atredies MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH: 5 x 1200 artillery, 3 x Cruise 1 x Invul Field 1 x Shield booster 1 x Shield Amp 2 x Mission amplifier 2 x Gyro II 1 x BCU II 2 x PDU 1 x CPU 3 x Cap rigs
Frug Repo Industries	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:34:00 - [19] Originally by: Alty MacAlterson Originally by: Marcus Atredies MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH: 5 x 1200 artillery, 3 x Cruise 1 x Invul Field 1 x Shield booster 1 x Shield Amp 2 x Mission amplifier 2 x Gyro II 1 x BCU II 2 x PDU 1 x CPU 3 x Cap rigs lol But seriously, they need to overhaul the NPCs to fit with all their changes. Now not only do they have 80km torps, but they go too fast. Cmon. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:34:00 - [20] Originally by: Marcus Atredies And what, you would bend over and accept it? I for one would not want to continue spending my money in that fashion which is the reason that I am posting. Like I said, If I paid you 20 before and decided that I want to nerf what you were doing and now you have to pay me 10, where exactly does that sound like a fair deal? By clicking the "Accept" button on the EULA, you are agreeing to exactly that. And if you don't like it, give me your stuff, quit, go visit a lawyer, and then see what he tells you when you ask him to sue CCP over an in-game nerf. Or you could, you know, adapt. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Ikathis sihtaki	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:35:00 - [21] In all your time spent killing npc, you have never learned that they have never followed the rules of the game? Dominix shooting defenders, megathrons doing 4 and 5k, rats don't follow same rules as us, quit whining man.
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:40:00 - [22] Originally by: Ikathis sihtaki In all your time spent killing npc, you have never learned that they have never followed the rules of the game? Dominix shooting defenders, megathrons doing 4 and 5k, rats don't follow same rules as us, quit whining man. Whining? You say yourself that they do not follow the same for the NPC as the Player. I'm asking that they hold the same true for every BS and you want to say I'm whining? I've been playing for the last 6 months or so. Like I said earlier come over and mow my lawn for 5 dollars now, cause I've nerfed it more, and I'll listen to what you have to say.
Marcus Atredies Minmatar Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:41:00 - [23] Originally by: Ikathis sihtaki Edited by: Ikathis sihtaki on 23/11/2008 05:38:49 In all your time spent killing npc, you have never learned that they have never followed the rules of the game? Dominix shooting defenders, megathrons doing 4 and 5k, rats don't follow same rules as us, quit whining man. Just think if these mission noobs were to meet npc that played and fit like a real player. oh wait, does that explain the nano nerf? hehe good stuff And how many people have complained because there is a pvp fit and a pve fit because of missions?
Ikathis sihtaki	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:42:00 - [24] Edited by: Ikathis sihtaki on 23/11/2008 05:43:13 4 some odd years, they have never followed the rules, why would they now? Think if you actually had to do a mission vs 3 remote repping log ships and one pvp fit npc... can you say no more solo? oh, and six months, you know oh so much aside from that cookie cutter raven fit you sport there.
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.11.23 05:42:00 - [25] drop the invulna, fit an AB. ta-da. -- i am a humble and inefficient ammo to dps converter
Khraunus Amarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.11.23 06:10:00 - [26] Enjoy your speed nerf... Bursts into a fit of roaring, cynical laughter as he walks away Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature?
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.11.23 06:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Marcus Atredies Like I said, If I paid you 20 before and decided that I want to nerf what you were doing and now you have to pay me 10, where exactly does that sound like a fair deal? You win. We give up. What are your terms of surrender? -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Minny Sky	Posted - 2008.11.23 06:24:00 - [28] You have have to get a friend help you; gasp eve isnt a single player game
needrandomnamegenerator	Posted - 2008.11.23 07:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Minny Sky You have have to get a friend help you; gasp eve isnt a single player game You should probably stop making yourself look stupid, since CCP said specifically that they wanted solo play to be a viable option in EVE after the patch.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.23 07:10:00 - [30] Originally by: Tyremis empire whiners whine hardcore to get the nano nerf, it comes down then they whine about how it effects them in the belts and in missions you have to be **** ing kidding me. /shakes head Stop with this delusion. They were Caldari PvPers, people playing against NPC had no interest in nanoship and could care less if they were capable of outrunning even guns fire.

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