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Stegreen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.24 09:11:00 - [1] witch HaC is best for pvp, aloso whats a good pvp fit solo and fleet plz Muninn or Vagabond
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2008.11.24 09:42:00 - [2] Originally by: Stegreen Edited by: Stegreen on 24/11/2008 09:31:44 witch HaC is best for pvp, aloso whats a good pvp fit solo and fleet plz Muninn or Vagabond Again this is after an edit? omg.. Anyway, if you need to ask, you should be in an ishtar. Or a falcon. A more useful anwser is: get on sisi and test it yourself, or at least show us what skills you have. And what kind of pvp you want to do. All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
Stegreen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.24 09:46:00 - [3] No, I edited the topic
Stegreen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.24 09:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Keitaro Baka Originally by: Stegreen Edited by: Stegreen on 24/11/2008 09:31:44 witch HaC is best for pvp, aloso whats a good pvp fit solo and fleet plz Muninn or Vagabond Again this is after an edit? omg.. Anyway, if you need to ask, you should be in an ishtar. Or a falcon. A more useful anwser is: get on sisi and test it yourself, or at least show us what skills you have. And what kind of pvp you want to do. Also, Falcon is not even a Hac it's a force recon ship and Ishtar is a gallente Hac, and sense they are not Minmetar I can not fly them at the time. also, here is the skills fo my Minmear pvp pilot http://www.newforms.nl/eve/skills/Hitesugo
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2008.11.24 10:08:00 - [5] Originally by: Stegreen Originally by: Keitaro Baka [..] Also, the Falcon is not even a Hac, it's a force recon ship and the Ishtar is a gallente Hac and since they are not Minmatar I can not fly them at the time. Here are the skills fo my Minmatar pvp pilot: linkie Edited for my viewing pleasure on the monday mornings That helped :) Muninn is the ship you're looking for. Thing is, your navigation skills are sorely lacking for a vagabond, which still deserves a speed fit. You're decent at ACs and armour tanking and the muninn could do that. Thing is, most people would prefer the sheer gank/cheapness of an AC hurricane over an AC muninn or just go for a rupture. The muninn kinda begs for range, at short range it's generally more efficient to go for hurricane/rupture. Whatever you do though, learn tech II light drones and ecm drones! All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.24 10:25:00 - [6] The quick answer Stegreen is: your not ready. let me ask you - of the stabber or the rupture, which do you prefer? If its the stabber - then get a vegabond and try it. If its a Rupture, try the Munin (with Artillery of course). But in all reality, I am going to assume that you have the bere minimum - in which case, you should still be in an interceptor. I recommend you fly an interceptor untill you can figure out for yourself a little more - ne? ---- ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense.
Stegreen Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.24 10:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Keitaro Baka Originally by: Stegreen Originally by: Keitaro Baka [..] Also, the Falcon is not even a Hac, it's a force recon ship and the Ishtar is a gallente Hac and since they are not Minmatar I can not fly them at the time. Here are the skills fo my Minmatar pvp pilot: linkie Edited for my viewing pleasure on the monday mornings That helped :) Muninn is the ship you're looking for. Thing is, your navigation skills are sorely lacking for a vagabond, which still deserves a speed fit. You're decent at ACs and armour tanking and the muninn could do that. Thing is, most people would prefer the sheer gank/cheapness of an AC hurricane over an AC muninn or just go for a rupture. The muninn kinda begs for range, at short range it's generally more efficient to go for hurricane/rupture. Whatever you do though, learn tech II light drones and ecm drones! Navigation is maxed out unless you're talking about other skills within navigation, Hitesugo can use ECM drones. also working on learning skills and drone skills atm and some where in the middle i will get Hac skill up to atleast 4 witch will be 4 days or around there.
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.11.24 11:21:00 - [8] you're either trolling or mentally subnormal, probably both.
H0RZA	Posted - 2008.11.24 11:22:00 - [9] Navigation skill = Navigation. Navigation skills usually means: Navigation, Evasive, High Speed Maneuvering, Acceleration Control, Warp Drive Operation, Afterburner & Fuel Conservation. Everything apart from Jump skills.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.11.24 11:34:00 - [10] Adding a bit; they're 2 completely different types of ships. A Muninn is a sniperboat, it CAN fit AC's but you'd be better off with a Hurricane (cheaper too). So for sniping situations the Muninn performs well. The Vagabond is a frigate on PCP, it's fast, agile and doesn't have much defenses apart from sheer speed. It's a hit&run ship mostly suited for use in enemy territory but it requires proper skills to work and a proper fit. There is no 'best', only a 'best for a certain situation'.
Johann Jeneau Gallente Cricas Portuguese Korp	Posted - 2008.11.24 11:51:00 - [11] Edited by: Johann Jeneau on 24/11/2008 11:55:57 my 2 cents: For a gang sniping muninn you need/want to train to at least lv.4: Long Range Targeting Signature Analysis Trajectory Analysis Surgical Strike Heavy Assault Ships For a solo/gang Vaga you need/want at least at lv.4: Signature Analysis Trajectory Analysis Surgical Strike Heavy Assault Ships Energy Systems Operation Shield Management Acceleration Control High Speed Maneuvering While ecm drones are ok you should train T2 drones ASAP. Energy Management at lv.5 is a must because Overheating makes such a huge difference in both ships You might need to train Advanced Weapon Upgrades higher to fit stuff, and you will need to train (depending on fit) shield/projectile weapon/astronautics rigging I like my steaks bloody as hell
ArmyOfMe 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.24 11:57:00 - [12] your not ready for the vagabond yet, and the muninn is only good as a sniper, and for that you need to train up AWU a lot more then what you got atm. if your looking for a close range ship then simply go for the hurricane since its pure sex as a ac boat. fake edit: Train up surgical strike as well Originally by: deadmaus Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything

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