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Jason Marshall Gallente Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:02:00 - [1] Ive got 100mil isk how do i make it 200? 300? IB4 Buy low sell high !B4 Give it to me Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Auri Hella Downwind Trading Guild	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:05:00 - [2] Originally by: Jason Marshall IB4 Buy low sell high You seem to already have the solution. Do you seriously expect people to spell it out for you? The new location of this forum
Kazzac Elentria	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:09:00 - [3] Invest everything you have into hot delicious maple syrup
Janet Marshall Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Auri Hella Originally by: Jason Marshall IB4 Buy low sell high You seem to already have the solution. Do you seriously expect people to spell it out for you? The new location of this forum No. Im just looking for tips, really. I read through all the guides..but im missing something. Do taxes effect me when im working in a station that my alliance owns?
Chomin H'ak Integrated Takeovers	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:18:00 - [5] Edited by: Chomin H''ak on 25/11/2008 17:18:52 Originally by: Janet Marshall Originally by: Auri Hella Originally by: Jason Marshall IB4 Buy low sell high You seem to already have the solution. Do you seriously expect people to spell it out for you? The new location of this forum No. Im just looking for tips, really. I read through all the guides..but im missing something. Do taxes effect me when im working in a station that my alliance owns? Good god... OK, I'll at least take care of the main question. FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF First off, no one's going to tell you what to buy, and if they do they're trying to manipulate you.Second, you got to 100M yourself, jes? Then think about what happened to get you there and repeat the process. You can alter the amount in different ways: Increasing volume Utilizing more slots Trading higher priced commodities But whatever you do, DO YOUR RESEARCH. The reason you're not getting the response you're looking for is you're being perceived as asking others for the research they worked hard on instead of doing it yourself. Trading is only easy when you've done your work ahead of time. GL] edit: so that's how the stupid bullets work... Originally by: Frenden Dax My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
SusanQueen	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:26:00 - [6] Thanks for your blunt answers. Its humbling. Ive done my research, I know where to sell. Its just finding quantity to make it worthwhile, I cant figure out the supply part. I cant sit in Jita and do the undercut game for 12 hours a day.. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Ling Zai Minmatar Zaitech	Posted - 2008.11.25 17:32:00 - [7] if you operate in an outpost your alliance owns, you can make a healthy profit importing useful goods and modules from jita. as a general rule you can charge between 10-30% more in 0.0 for items which are rare/sought after. a long time ago I used to import bs+kits and sell to alliance mates. very quick way of making a profit.
Tornikey Gallente Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2008.11.25 18:10:00 - [8] Edited by: Tornikey on 25/11/2008 18:11:06 I have far less than 100m, although I'm interested in the same topic - how to maximize the profit with a 25,270m3 capacity industrial ship in 0.5-1.0 systems? So far I've found the trade goods which make only 20-30% profit and require 6+ jumps. I've seen phrases like "some regions are in need of certain goods", but how can you identify these regions and the goods? I've found it so hard to find this out.
Callista Omenswarm	Posted - 2008.11.25 18:17:00 - [9] Sadly that's what is meant by 'research'. Book yourself a day to sit in a shuttle and trawl through the market screens of a few regions. For me I spent a few months in a region, got to know the kind of pilots that lived and worked in the various systems and looked at what kinds of modules and consumables they'd need. Then it is just a case of manufacturing/importing those items and selling in the specific systems. Alternatively, a quick and dirty solution is to grab the 2d maps, find reasonably busy system and dump your goods at systems at the center of a lot of spokes (hubs) and hope turnover is generated from the traffic moving through.
Tornikey Gallente Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2008.11.25 18:39:00 - [10] Thanks. So the profit is generated more from region-to-region selling, than in the same region, it seems?
Callista Omenswarm	Posted - 2008.11.25 18:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Tornikey Thanks. So the profit is generated more from region-to-region selling, than in the same region, it seems? In-region your profits come directly from the relative laziness of pilots who want their goods in system or near-by. Your markup is only the premium they are willing to pay for not travelling those few jumps (as opposed the premium for not travelling from region to region hoping it has your item in stock). Higher markups come from importing products not produced in that region, cheaper end products and raw materials. Or even taking into account the fact you're blind to other regional prices. If you're the only person selling Cargo Expansion rigs (purely as an example) in the region, you may well be able to get away with pricing them higher than the neighbouring region, even though it is only 1 or 2 jumps away.
CornerStoner	Posted - 2008.11.25 18:57:00 - [12] Research is important, but getting organized is just as important IMO. Notepad, spreadsheet, 3rd party app....whatever. Once I organized my research data making profits was simple.
Tornikey Gallente Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2008.11.25 19:10:00 - [13] Thanks for replies.
Wadaya Caldari Trailerpark Industries	Posted - 2008.11.25 21:31:00 - [14] Buy Helium Isotopes
Jason Marshall Gallente Hammer Of Light Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.11.26 03:17:00 - [15] can you recomend the best 3rd party apps, general trading tools. Right now i use excel and i suck at excel. Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Lost Penguin	Posted - 2008.11.26 05:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Ling Zai if you operate in an outpost your alliance owns, you can make a healthy profit importing useful goods and modules from jita. as a general rule you can charge between 10-30% more in 0.0 for items which are rare/sought after. a long time ago I used to import bs+kits and sell to alliance mates. very quick way of making a profit. 10-30%? 0.0 must really suck. bringing stuff in to low-sec pirate hubs can get you 40-100% more.
Linia Gallente Linia Corp	Posted - 2008.11.26 05:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Lost Penguin bringing stuff in to low-sec pirate hubs Have to correct you there, they'r called privates, not pirates, its important to make fun of them so they get bored and die
Janet Marshall Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.26 05:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Linia Originally by: Lost Penguin bringing stuff in to low-sec pirate hubs Have to correct you there, they'r called privates, not pirates, its important to make fun of them so they get bored and die They destroy things, that then have to be replaced! Without the pirates, demand goes down.
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.11.26 06:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Janet Marshall Originally by: Linia Originally by: Lost Penguin bringing stuff in to low-sec pirate hubs Have to correct you there, they'r called privates, not pirates, its important to make fun of them so they get bored and die They destroy things, that then have to be replaced! Without the pirates, demand goes down. That's not necessarily true. Take super high end modules used for mission running. If people suicide their users to get the mods the mission runners will stop using them, demand and prices drop. How about T2 mods in 0.0? For small scale PvP no self respecting pilot would fly with less when could fit T2 but when war comes and he can expect to loose ship after ship with nothing but an insurance payment you often see them avoiding pricey T2 in favor of more easily replaced stuff. Much of the market does not have a nice linear correlation to stuff getting popped. The more you start to understand that complex relationship the more profit you'll start to see.
Kazzac Elentria	Posted - 2008.11.26 13:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Janet Marshall Originally by: Linia Originally by: Lost Penguin bringing stuff in to low-sec pirate hubs Have to correct you there, they'r called privates, not pirates, its important to make fun of them so they get bored and die They destroy things, that then have to be replaced! Without the pirates, demand goes down. Pirate looses a BS in a null skirmish and nets maybe a ransom or two. Without insurance there is generally a net loss of total value. Trader has purchased entire line of BS inventory and remarked it up at 10% forcing said pirate to pay more to continue his activities. .....and they call them pirates.

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