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Jas Dor
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.09 03:53:00 -
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The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.04.09 04:23:00 -
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No. |

Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
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Posted - 2012.04.09 04:24:00 -
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Indeed. Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |

Aina Sasaki
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.09 04:47:00 -
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Agreed. CCP won't be intervening just because of drakes. - Rei |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
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Posted - 2012.04.09 05:24:00 -
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I think the OP was using Drake prices as the standard for over done Inflation. Drakes at 70 would put everything else in line with that.
This is not inflation though. it's manipulation and it has a purpose. If you want to use a more realistic item of standard, decide what a PLEX needs to go to in order for CCP to step in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |

Gatan Hahran
Brukterer DUCT TAPE UNION
93
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Posted - 2012.04.09 08:40:00 -
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Lets have a T3 mining ship! 1) x2 amount of ore/cycle compared to Hulk 2) production costs of about 2 billion isk 3) max. 1000 EHP, 1 minute to get into warp 4) ????????????? 5) great forum fun |

LC Sulla
House Mekarae
0
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Posted - 2012.04.09 09:33:00 -
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Go look at, EVE Fanfest 2012: State of the Economy (YouTube)
There is an interesting discussion of the economy and market activity in EVE. Looks like inflation is here until at least the end of 2012 Q2. Basically there is too much ISK inflow which is one of the sources of inflation. |

Uppsy Daisy
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2012.04.09 10:38:00 -
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This is all just speculation.
No changes have even been implemented yet... |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
515
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Posted - 2012.04.09 11:01:00 -
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Uppsy Daisy wrote:This is all just speculation.
No changes have even been implemented yet...
You have to get more in touch with actual players and you'd see what happened. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Nub Sauce
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.09 21:22:00 -
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I highly doubt they'd be intervening at all. That market is working as intended. Be it speculation, bot bans, whatever... this is all meant to be. I'm hoping this recovery from artificially low prices due to bots is a permanent change.
I'm loving it so far. My margins have only gotten better.
On a side note: Why hasn't anyong triggered a PI speculation bubble? I'm sure there were bots involved there, too! Come on! Once all the bots are banned, PI goods will be worth a fortune! |

qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
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Posted - 2012.04.09 21:24:00 -
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Jas Dor wrote:The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu.
Why? A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today. The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine. |

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
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Posted - 2012.04.09 22:38:00 -
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IF CCP was bothered about ISK price they'd never have let Incursion farming go on for so long. |

Nub Sauce
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.04.09 22:45:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:IF CCP was bothered about ISK price they'd never have let Incursion farming go on for so long.
Very true. |

MushroomMushroom
Consolidated Sprocket
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Posted - 2012.04.10 00:37:00 -
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CCP is unlikely to intervene due to speculation, which will sort itself out on its own eventually. That said, it would not surprise me if there was some balance to mineral production volume to go with the drone/meta 0 nerf, just don't expect to see it before the nerf. |

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
39
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Posted - 2012.04.10 00:56:00 -
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Eve is becoming intresting again. Losing ships is starting to slightly concern players now. Will be intresting to see 1 billion isk as something to be worried about losing. Currently the only limiting factor on ship choice is skill points. |

Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2012.04.10 02:45:00 -
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Creating Strong Desire, instead of a Strong Need, this is going to get entertaining. |

Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
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Posted - 2012.04.10 06:20:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Eve is becoming intresting again. Losing ships is starting to slightly concern players now. Will be intresting to see 1 billion isk as something to be worried about losing. Currently the only limiting factor on ship choice is skill points.
Well said. Brock, for the 1000th time, Im not really Dutch! |

Mookie Quantico
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.04.10 09:48:00 -
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Let the prices rise.
As others have said, there is too much ISK flow into the game... CCP is concerned about this, if you managed to catch Dr. Eyjo's "Faucets and Sinks" seminar.
Oddly enough, however, they are about to change Drone Alloys to ISK Bounties.
There are numerous other factors at work, or soon to be at work (such as Dr. Eyjo's interest in adjusting "taxes" and "fees" in the game) but overall, sooner or later, the pilot community will adjust it's spending habits.
Hell, some of them might even get out and mine. 
Then some of them, for a short time anyway, will put a new "value" on both ships and "ISK".
What would be really scary is if CCP decided to "devalue" or even restructure the ISK as a unit of currency... might have to call it the "Peso" by the time the panic had subsided.  
Mook. |

Kreeia Dgore
EntroPrelatial Industria EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2012.04.10 09:57:00 -
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Why should drake cost 50m anyway? It is ship with quallities comparable to hulls costing four times more. |

Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:18:00 -
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Kreeia Dgore wrote:Why should drake cost 50m anyway? It is ship with quallities comparable to hulls costing four times more.
Is this ninja-QQ??? |

Jas Dor
Republic University Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:05:00 -
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Aina Sasaki wrote:Agreed. CCP won't be intervening just because of drakes.
I'm using Drake as a marker, not saying it's causative. If the Drake spikes to 70m, nothing happens, if prices in general rise to the point where a Drake costs 70m - CCP will intervene in the market to prevent subscriber loss. |

Jas Dor
Republic University Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:08:00 -
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qDoctor Strangelove wrote:Jas Dor wrote:The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu. Why? A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today. The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine.
Personally, I prefer to buy my minerals off the market then mine them.
If we get to the point where not mining is a major problem for Null sec alliances, I expect null sec PvPers will find another game to play, not start mining. |

Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:17:00 -
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Jas Dor wrote:qDoctor Strangelove wrote:Jas Dor wrote:The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu. Why? A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today. The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine. Personally, I prefer to buy my minerals off the market then mine them. If we get to the point where not mining is a major problem for Null sec alliances, I expect null sec PvPers will find another game to play, not start mining.
Nah, they'll just recruit a few miners...or bring an indy corp into the alliance. PvPers won't stop playing just because it's not feasible to do it in the same way they used to. |

EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:53:00 -
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qDoctor Strangelove wrote:Jas Dor wrote:The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu. Why? A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today. The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine. things you mine are free am i rite |

Jas Dor
Republic University Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.04.11 00:08:00 -
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Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Nah, they'll just recruit a few miners...or bring an indy corp into the alliance. PvPers won't stop playing just because it's not feasible to do it in the same way they used to.
Even back in the day successful PvP alliances never brought in Indy corps (though I suppose it depends on what you think of ASCN). PvP alliances might rent space to indy corps, but they are not going to actually mine the roids on a large scale basis. With CCPs current policy about bot ISK, I'm not sure if renting space is still a viable option. |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
579
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Posted - 2012.04.11 00:38:00 -
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Lots of these so called PVP alliances have members with alts on their main's account flying hulks, freighters, etc. They don't invite industrial corps because they are industrial corps. |

Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
319
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Posted - 2012.04.11 00:44:00 -
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qDoctor Strangelove wrote:Jas Dor wrote:The mineral spike ends with CCP intervention when the Drake crosses 70m pu. Why? A noob with a blue print copy from contracts will spend the EXACT same time making a drake next winter when the drake is 70m as he will today. The ONLY people hurting by a 70 mill drake and a 350 mill Maelstrom / Abaddon is the NULL sec alliance that do not mine.
the minerals you mine are free...correct?; the only alliances that ate going to get hurt are the ones without tech moons..
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
319
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Posted - 2012.04.11 00:52:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Lots of these so called PVP alliances have members with alts on their main's account flying hulks, freighters, etc. They don't invite industrial corps because they are industrial corps.
you are a winner sir!... how else is pvp being funded. woops just lost a t2 hac thats 1/3rd monthly gametime value... besides its not like everyones got by now highsec incursion alts... ow.. wait... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
579
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Posted - 2012.04.11 01:02:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: you are a winner sir!... how else is pvp being funded. woops just lost a t2 hac thats 1/3rd monthly gametime value... besides its not like everyones got by now highsec incursion alts... ow.. wait...
Plenty of that going on too, also plenty living in worm holes, doing missions and trade, invention, etc. |
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