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Lord Evangelian Gallente The White Mantle	Posted - 2008.11.29 21:43:00 - [1] Although the time is fast approaching for the most anticipated expansion since eve started, the player base is setting itself up for a huge disappointment. Every other day I look at the forums and see posts talking about what they would like to see. This is great, but when the content is released, they will be in for a shock. Bare stations, little content, and huge queues for everything. Just a slight warning, I don't think people should get too excited just yet...it might lead to uproar and forum murmurs... The White Mantle \| Jump Clone Service
5pinDizzy Amarr Umpteenth Podding	Posted - 2008.11.29 21:51:00 - [2] No matter how empty and pointless Ambulation might turn out at first, if there is some way to annoy everyone else whether corridor blocking or running in circles around them etc..., then I guarantee you at least some of us will getting some fun and satisfaction out of it.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.11.29 21:58:00 - [3] Optional, free, etc etc... Even if a cake is a lie, it's still a cake. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.29 21:59:00 - [4] This thread is quickly approaching the biggest let down ever. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:05:00 - [5] They said they would add to the content in consecutive patches, just like they said about trinity and they added LOADS to trinity, right And above all, read my sig!
Kateryne Minmatar purple pot hogs	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:05:00 - [6] With the ability to customize your avatar, i wonder how long it is before Jita 4-4 is full of suited, Afro sporting Brutor blocking all the corridors, and saying stuff like "Bar's closed due to AIDS"
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Lord Evangelian Although the time is fast approaching for the most anticipated expansion since eve started, the player base is setting itself up for a huge disappointment. Every other day I look at the forums and see posts talking about what they would like to see. This is great, but when the content is released, they will be in for a shock. Bare stations, little content, and huge queues for everything. Just a slight warning, I don't think people should get too excited just yet...it might lead to uproar and forum murmurs... I think TBH no matter how superb WiS/Ambulation turns out people WILL complain! Its in the nature to many it seems, to whine and cry about anything... Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:09:00 - [8] Originally by: 5pinDizzy No matter how empty and pointless Ambulation might turn out at first, if there is some way to annoy everyone else whether corridor blocking or running in circles around them etc..., then I guarantee you at least some of us will getting some fun and satisfaction out of it. This sounds pretty cool. You get a team of friends together and give them roles. Some are tacklers, others DPS and E-war. You can even quicktravel a really fat woman for support and pretend you hot dropped a mothership. Then they have to act like their role demands while imitating the relevant module sounds by their own voice. Think of the fun/annoyance potential it has. That and it looks like fun, has gambling/minigames, increases immersion and RP potential. And it is not manditory, so party ****ers don't have to bother with it.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:13:00 - [9] The disappointment will only be as big as your inflated expectations. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Chief Simpson Minmatar Sanitation Worker's Union of Null Sec	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:14:00 - [10] OK. I've readjusted my expectations to exceed Ultima I by just a little. ----------- Cleaning up the garbage in null sec, one belt at a time...

Karille Gallente Lordless	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:20:00 - [11] My expectations are slightly lower than Dwarf Fortress. I just can't wait for the inevitable stampede for real estate in the hub systems. That is going to be great.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.29 22:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Lord Evangelian Although the time is fast approaching for the most anticipated expansion since eve started, the player base is setting itself up for a huge disappointment. Every other day I look at the forums and see posts talking about what they would like to see. This is great, but when the content is released, they will be in for a shock. Bare stations, little content, and huge queues for everything. Just a slight warning, I don't think people should get too excited just yet...it might lead to uproar and forum murmurs... well, as your post proves, this forum is filled with people that like to whine and complain (even about stuff that hasn't be released yet) thanks for the warning, though. i'll be sure to leave you in the "party ****er pack" when i next leave home. \|+ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ +\|
Tasty Bit Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:00:00 - [13] Originally by: Pesky LaRue Originally by: Lord Evangelian Although the time is fast approaching for the most anticipated expansion since eve started, the player base is setting itself up for a huge disappointment. Every other day I look at the forums and see posts talking about what they would like to see. This is great, but when the content is released, they will be in for a shock. Bare stations, little content, and huge queues for everything. Just a slight warning, I don't think people should get too excited just yet...it might lead to uproar and forum murmurs... well, as your post proves, this forum is filled with people that like to whine and complain (even about stuff that hasn't be released yet) thanks for the warning, though. i'll be sure to leave you in the "party ****er pack" when i next leave home. omg they censored "po-op".
Trotula Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:17:00 - [14] Originally by: Lord Evangelian Although the time is fast approaching for the most anticipated expansion since eve started, the player base is setting itself up for a huge disappointment. Your mother says the same thing about you. And when you get out of diapers, your gf will say it too.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Originally by: 5pinDizzy No matter how empty and pointless Ambulation might turn out at first, if there is some way to annoy everyone else whether corridor blocking or running in circles around them etc..., then I guarantee you at least some of us will getting some fun and satisfaction out of it. This sounds pretty cool. You get a team of friends together and give them roles. Some are tacklers, others DPS and E-war. You can even quicktravel a really fat woman for support and pretend you hot dropped a mothership. Then they have to act like their role demands while imitating the relevant module sounds by their own voice. Think of the fun/annoyance potential it has. That and it looks like fun, has gambling/minigames, increases immersion and RP potential. And it is not manditory, so party ****ers don't have to bother with it. first iteration of combat in station .... a bunch of fat echicks this is what i dont get about the whole ambualtion thing it not statuary it optional ...if you dont like it you DONT have to do it it is completly up to you... so why moan about it i mean stop bothering us because some of us are looking foward to it.... once ambulation hits eve will fill complete, whole and feel like a proper full filling MMO avarat and everything ( obviously not the titan avatar silly) so yes it might be a huge flop or it might be popular , of course it going to be empty as it is up to the community to fill itit is up to us BUt no one is forcing you to play ambulation it not like a nerf where it effects everyone this is entirly optional
Franga Gristle Industries	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Chief Simpson OK. I've readjusted my expectations to exceed Ultima I by just a little. You're aiming a little too high. Throttle back there, eager beaver. ----------
Obsidian Dagger Weak and Fee-bile	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:44:00 - [17] I really hope player collision is off by default. Or else we will have goons standing three abreast in every doorway, singing about underpants or some****. Also, I want to have apickpocket skill. So I can follow Ninja Salvagers around and make lots of easy free ISK.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:49:00 - [18] I expect to be able to walk... in stations. Not much room for disappointment. Not like they're going to change it to swimming in stations overnight. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:51:00 - [19] I can not be disappointed in WiS as I already think they are a terrible waste of time that I will never use nor care about, so anything above and beyond that will be a pleasant suprise.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.29 23:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Washell Olivaw I expect to be able to walk... in stations. Not much room for disappointment. Not like they're going to change it to swimming in stations overnight. OMG this guy hit the nail in the coffin now DIG FASTER he trying to brake out

Olga Mokroff Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:01:00 - [21] hmm minmatar biatches, juicy . worth it. imo. pics stolen from shc
Plave Okice Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:10:00 - [22] Originally by: Lord Evangelian the most anticipated expansion since eve started, Says who? The vast majority of people I speak to don't give a flying **** about getting out of their spaceships
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:18:00 - [23] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Washell Olivaw I expect to be able to walk... in stations. Not much room for disappointment. Not like they're going to change it to swimming in stations overnight. OMG this guy hit the nail in the coffin now DIG FASTER he trying to brake out Just realized something. The walk speed may technically be running. But I'm willing to settle for that. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Zora Gallente Concealed Intentions	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:20:00 - [24] Quote: The vast majority of people I speak to don't give a flying **** about getting out of their spaceships Taken out of context, this makes for a really, really great quote for various occassions :)
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:25:00 - [25] On the contrary OP, while people have inflated ideas about what ambulation could/would/should do/be, I think they will find that just having a person avatar for the first time in EVE's history is impressive enough in itself. Hell, they could do 'Walking in solitary identical white boxes' and it would still have a 'whoa, I'm a person now' effect. - DesuSigs
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:27:00 - [26] Protip: If you edit "not a whine" into your title, it makes it true. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Alexi Borizkova Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:30:00 - [27] Originally by: An Anarchyyt This thread is quickly approaching the biggest let down ever. So, wait, you think the thread is going to sleep with me?
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:31:00 - [28] Originally by: Plave Okice Originally by: Lord Evangelian the most anticipated expansion since eve started, Says who? The vast majority of people I speak to don't give a flying **** about getting out of their spaceships It's true that many people already playing the game, say they don't care or get WiS. Looking at EVE from an outsiders point of view, they don't even know about any balance changes or most new features. Only MMO sites report on them. WiS on the other hand is getting some attention even outside the MMO sites and even they like to report on anything WiS related. Propably because WiS is very visually pleasing and pics focused on sexy asses attract a lot of attention.
Zora Gallente Concealed Intentions	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:32:00 - [29] This thread is clearly sick. Is it lupus?
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:46:00 - [30] mmm virtual E ass what is there not to like

Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:52:00 - [31] I don't know how one can watch the compilation video from Fanfest (the one that has all the cut-scenes from movies) and not be excited. It gives a clear idea of the scope and grit and scale and variety and atmosphere that CCP has envisioned. It may take awhile for it to be fully realized, but it has to make an initial step at some point from which it can continue to build. The whole "Moving furniture is fun in the Sims!" part of the presentation put me off, but I trust in the overall vision enough not to freak out. But you know, there was a time when old people were all "who wants cell phones?! those are so stupid! they'll ruin everything!". Same with just about everything else. Holy ****! It's different! It'll be the end of everything!OMGZ!!!1!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.30 00:57:00 - [32] And let's not forget dat ass. - DesuSigs
Chssmius Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.30 01:07:00 - [33] Originally by: Armoured C mmm virtual E ass what is there not to like You mean other than the realization that statistically a hairy, likely sweaty and smelly, bespeckled man is sitting at the helm. You mean other than that right? I am pretty "meh" about the whole thing but I think that is the best attitude to approach with as, unless they royally flub it, I will probably be impressed before it is all over. On the plus side, it may give me a reason to RP.
Alexi Borizkova Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.30 05:56:00 - [34] Originally by: Zora This thread is clearly sick. Is it lupus? It's never lupus.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.30 06:31:00 - [35] I'm not sure how disappointed you should be with something that isn't even released or shown in it final form yet.. but I don't believe anyone said you are going to have to use ambulation. I understood it was an alternative station feature. You could stay on your ship. ===== * Your signature is too wide. Please note: we allow signature files no larger than 400x120 pixels - Fallout
Modahn Etch Gallente Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport	Posted - 2008.11.30 07:06:00 - [36] I do agree with op, I've seen tons of posts that are way too in depth and expecting too much. But at the same time I enjoy EVE whether I can see my character or not, I couldn't really care less about WIS, it's gonna be kickass, but I don't need it to have fun.
Zora Gallente Concealed Intentions	Posted - 2008.11.30 07:14:00 - [37] Why don't we just wait and see what they'll get out of all the new tools they are building for WiS and then complain. All that we saw yet were WORKING prototypes of the game engine that is going to power it. I trust the designer crew of CCP to properly seed the new in-station-worlds with enough npc content, that can eventually be replaced by real player content. Of course I have no idea how it will really play out, but neither do you. Still even if the first iteration might disappoint, there will be plenty of content over time. Same as it was with the original EVE game, it was pretty barren content wise in the beginning, with only a hand full of ship classes. And look at it now, well I think you get the point :)
Lord Evangelian Gallente The White Mantle	Posted - 2008.11.30 08:11:00 - [38] Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 30/11/2008 08:13:36 Originally by: Modahn Etch I do agree with op, I've seen tons of posts that are way too in depth and expecting too much. First person to read my post... I am not saying I am not looking forward to it. I am saying that people are talking about it in way to much depth, inflating there expectations. I was just stating the point that it is not going to have all the features they want in it on release. I am looking forward to it and can't wait... Think of it like this:- In the weeks leading up to Christmas, a small child knows his getting a present, its a computer games console of some kind. He knows that much, but he doesn't know what sort. He knows its made by Nintendo. He then starts to think about what it could be/have, inflating his expectations to the point where he is convinced that its the unreleased successor to the "Wii". Christmas arrives, and he gets a "NES". How does the boy feel... Thats my point...not that it will be a flop, but the player base (Who are guilty of this fantastic anticipation), will be disappointed... The White Mantle \| Jump Clone Service
Mithfindel Gallente Gariushi Foundation	Posted - 2008.11.30 09:00:00 - [39] News flash: Without the players, the space would be empty in EVE. Okay, there's some content, such as rats - however, without other players you'd basically need to make all your ships yourself etc. (Unless you were content with the newb ship, or the ship you got from the rookie storyline - which didn't exist when the game launched, btw.) It has also been stated that there will be some NPCs inside the stations as well, though like talking to agents, talking to these people will not be needed for the gameplay.
Necrosmith Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.11.30 10:09:00 - [40] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I can not be disappointed in WiS as I already think they are a terrible waste of time that I will never use nor care about, so anything above and beyond that will be a pleasant suprise. ---- For those of you who claim to support the troops and oppose national health care, I have a question. Why do you insist on punishing our veterans with free health care?

Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.11.30 10:22:00 - [41] As long as there is a purpose to it, Im happy. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Terraform Gallente Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.11.30 10:23:00 - [42] Originally by: 5pinDizzy No matter how empty and pointless Ambulation might turn out at first, if there is some way to annoy everyone else whether corridor blocking or running in circles around them etc..., then I guarantee you at least some of us will getting some fun and satisfaction out of it. I think you'd be getting a ban faster than satisfaction.
Tippia Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.11.30 10:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Kateryne With the ability to customize your avatar, i wonder how long it is before Jita 4-4 is full of suited, Afro sporting Brutor blocking all the corridors, and saying stuff like "Bar's closed due to AIDS" Can't happen. The engine doesn't allow it. Or, to quote Eris at Fanfest: "Well, I've heard about these guys called goons, and we thought it best to ruin things for them… " No sig for me, thankyouverymuch.
Karille Gallente Lordless	Posted - 2008.11.30 10:49:00 - [44] How does the engine handle player collisions? Do they walk through each other or block?
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.11.30 10:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Karille How does the engine handle player collisions? Do they walk through each other or block? Your caldari achura emo-boy perfectly bumps hot minmatar goth chick for unlimited damage.
Tippia Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.11.30 11:51:00 - [46] Originally by: Karille How does the engine handle player collisions? Do they walk through each other or block? Just repeating how it was described at the roundtable… Think of it as everyone having a magnetic field around them that repell other players as they come closer. Even if two persons are standing as close together as they can, the field is squishy enough that you can squeeze between them and pop out on the other side (but not stay between them since all three toons will be trying to push the others away). Thus, there will always be space enough to go past other people. No sig for me, thankyouverymuch.
Karille Gallente Lordless	Posted - 2008.11.30 11:53:00 - [47] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Karille How does the engine handle player collisions? Do they walk through each other or block? Just repeating how it was described at the roundtableà Think of it as everyone having a magnetic field around them that repell other players as they come closer. Even if two persons are standing as close together as they can, the field is squishy enough that you can squeeze between them and pop out on the other side (but not stay between them since all three toons will be trying to push the others away). Thus, there will always be space enough to go past other people. So a squishy bubble of personal space. That's pretty smart.
Mother Commander	Posted - 2008.11.30 12:09:00 - [48] So how many stations are in the game in total? Let's say 1000 for example, then divide the amount of player on server on average based on the population you normally see on the server any given day of the week, it does not take a rocket scientist to know that most stations will be very very empty, people my populate new areas based on a player created feature inside it, lets a say a "Vegas" area where lots of poker rooms "if they create this" are located might collect, I am sure it will grow in some way but it will be thin very very thin in most areas. That's what I expect, if CCP has a plan to not give every station "walk in stations" Capability then they could control the player population, make it feel more full and have it be more directed, but I doubt they have thought that far since they didn't even have an answer during the dev con about Player Owned Stations and Sov changing, means they either forgot why they did this over the past two years or it was just as poorly planned as the recent combat / speed changes. All I know is they are drunk idiots that have screwed up PVP that was really fun.
Cartheron Crust 14th Legion	Posted - 2008.11.30 13:15:00 - [49] Hopefully they will play Rick Astley in the bars.
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Art of War Exalted.	Posted - 2008.11.30 13:41:00 - [50] Bunny hopping around or walking backwards in circles ftw.

Zaknussem Caldari Intrum Industria	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:04:00 - [51] For those of you planning to run interference for pilots trying to get back to their ships - how are you going to stop a bookmark? That's right, the bookmark system is being planned for stations and will transport pilots instantaneously, no walking required. But overall I have to agree with what has been said - it's just plain stupid of the OP to even claim that Ambulation will be a disappointment at this point. It's also stupid to claim that Ambulation will be anything right now. Let's burn that bridge when it has been built, shall we?
Demeterus Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:35:00 - [52] I will be able to smirk in 3D. Yummie. --- Why are you reading my sig? Did you expect something of sigs?
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2008.11.30 19:37:00 - [53] I'm tired of waiting for it mostly. I wish they'd implement it. It's not like we really expect much initially. Kinda of tired of them daggling the carrot though.... Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal


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