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Demeterus Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:21:00 - [1] Edited by: Demeterus on 30/11/2008 17:27:23 Yes, i have been waiting for a forum post to this effect for some time, but since it is not appearing I thought I would take the opportunity to present it to you myself. Here is the situation. I am inexcusably bored, so I decide to do my trap door spider-tactic. Yes, I know. It is kind of lame.... My industrial alt sitting in a belt in a system somewhere in Amarr space. She is in an exequror to lure the unwary into my trap. She is right fitted, of course, with all the trappings of a miner. For my main, I'm sitting cloaked in a curse ten-fifteen kilometres away from the can that my mining alt has thrown out. And lo and behold, not too long (thankfully) after my two chars are in position, in zips an omen. A bona fide can flipper. Whoo hoo! Quote: [ 2008.11.30 14:37:02 ] CanFlipper > hey sucker [ 2008.11.30 14:37:10 ] CanFlipper > what you got in there [ 2008.11.30 14:37:18 ] Mining Alt > Well, I'm sure you're going to find out [ 2008.11.30 14:37:20 ] CanFlipper > lol ** yeah [ 2008.11.30 14:37:21 ] Mining Alt > Having fun? [ 2008.11.30 14:37:30 ] CanFlipper > veld? ing bear [ 2008.11.30 14:37:38 ] Mining Alt > er.... what did you expect to find? A carrier? [ 2008.11.30 14:37:40 ] CanFlipper > you gonna shoot me? [ 2008.11.30 14:37:45 ] Mining Alt > Why should I? [ 2008.11.30 14:37:47 ] CanFlipper > cluck cluck cluck ^^ [ 2008.11.30 14:38:10 ] Mining Alt > You seem to misunderstand something... I'm not a fighter [ 2008.11.30 14:38:15 ] CanFlipper > lol pathetic!!! [ 2008.11.30 14:38:17 ] Mining Alt > But my main is [ 2008.11.30 14:38:25 ] CanFlipper > lol so where is he? [ 2008.11.30 14:38:27 ] Mining Alt > Right behind you [ 2008.11.30 14:38:30 ] CanFlipper > lol your pathetic [ 2008.11.30 14:38:35 ] MyMain > Peekaboo! This is where my main decloaks in the curse, dries Mr CanFlipper clean, and releases the drones. Well, an omen isn't more than a snack for a curse, ofc. So the outcome is inevitable. Quote: [ 2008.11.30 14:39:41 ] CanFlipper > ! [ 2008.11.30 14:39:43 ] Mining Alt > Right [ 2008.11.30 14:39:56 ] CanFlipper > ing coward! [ 2008.11.30 14:40:00 ] Mining Alt > Right [ 2008.11.30 14:40:22 ] CanFlipper > you ought to be **in nerfed [ 2008.11.30 14:40:26 ] Mining Alt > The forums are that way ----> Well, so, in advance of the surely needed accusations of infinite lameness (i know, i know), the surely true assessment of the overpoweredness of the curse, the absolutely true determination that I'm a noob/coward/bastard/take-your-pick, i thought I'd preempt the poor innocent victim by coming to you with the proposition: Nerf me! --- Why are you reading my sig? Did you expect something of sigs?
5pinDizzy Amarr Umpteenth Podding	Posted - 2008.11.30 17:30:00 - [2] Good show, It's incredibly difficult to kill being an anti pirate rather then just being a pirate, but you can always set a trap for those can flippers and catch them unawares.
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:04:00 - [3] ...how did you lock him in a cloaking curse before he warped? dont you mean a pilgrim? Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Soporo Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:12:00 - [4] I used to do this sometimes, baiting can-flippers, but I just used my PvP Hulk. Those sorts of kills are far FAR more gratifying than any other kind to me. Specially when they emo/rage/whine in Local.
Lady Karma	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw ...how did you lock him in a cloaking curse before he warped? dont you mean a pilgrim? Even though combat recons cannot use the covert cloak, all recons get the short delay from uncloaking to locking.
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:16:00 - [6] oh cool...didnt know that! (dusts of his curse) Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Lady Karma	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:22:00 - [7] Edited by: Lady Karma on 30/11/2008 18:22:56 Its in the attributes with a stupidly long name covertOpsStealthBomberCloakModuleDelay = 5 for all recons Edit, oops that's actually the recloaking timer
Demeterus Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.30 18:29:00 - [8] This was not the sharpest knife in the box, so i had plenty of time to lock him while he was busy smacking my indy alt in local. Always keep your eyes on the overview! And damnit, if you're going to kill someone, at least make sure to set his corp to red before you do to find out if the victim has corpmates in local. --- Why are you reading my sig? Did you expect something of sigs?
Apoctasy Fluffy Muffins	Posted - 2008.11.30 20:03:00 - [9] brilliant! Gives me some ideas for lowsec...
Karanth Gallente Independent Fleet Space Exploration and Logistic Services	Posted - 2008.11.30 20:07:00 - [10] Good read. Signing nerf support. --- Wheel of Whineage

Zhora Six	Posted - 2008.11.30 22:22:00 - [11] My hero for a day...
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2008.11.30 22:39:00 - [12] /me applauds -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Letifer Deus A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2008.11.30 23:06:00 - [13] golf clap ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!"
Jorah Vulture Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.30 23:13:00 - [14] Cool conversation, and nice gank ;). There's when canflippers lose all their style, when they revert to smacking to provoke people. As an elegant canflipper, I'm ashamed.
Flinx Evenstar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.01 00:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Jorah Vulture Cool conversation, and nice gank ;). There's when canflippers lose all their style, when they revert to smacking to provoke people. As an elegant canflipper, I'm ashamed. I'm glad you are an eloquent can flipper (maybe you meant elegant) but the line that made me laugh from this guy was CanFlipper > ****ing coward! How dare you sir, in your defenseless mining ship pull a trap on me. I fully intended to gank you knowing that you could not shoot back, but I am calling you a coward, feel my wrath. Flippers ___
Demeterus Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.01 16:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar I'm glad you are an eloquent can flipper (maybe you meant elegant) but the line that made me laugh from this guy was CanFlipper > ****ing coward! How dare you sir, in your defenseless mining ship pull a trap on me. I fully intended to gank you knowing that you could not shoot back, but I am calling you a coward, feel my wrath. Flippers Yes, that was what I thought was funny too, and which made me write this "account". :) Too many players do not want opposition. They want killmails, not wins. A win presupposes that there is opposition. It's like up in the 0.0 area where my main usually hangs out - roaming gangs flee opposition. They're just out to kill ratters, miners and haulers. Easy prey. Challenges make them run away. :) Ofc, you could argue that a curse against an omen is the same thing - a killmail, not a win. I'd agree to that. I'm as guilty as the next guy. --- Why are you reading my sig? Did you expect something of sigs?
Letifer Deus A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2008.12.01 17:21:00 - [17] Edited by: Letifer Deus on 01/12/2008 17:21:13 Originally by: Demeterus Ofc, you could argue that a curse against an omen is the same thing - a killmail, not a win. I'd agree to that. I'm as guilty as the next guy. The difference is you designed a plan and set him up. That's a win, not simply a killmail, in my book. If you had been waiting with, say, an omen like his instead of the curse, I'd probably question your intelligence. =) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!"
Grek Forto THE IRIS United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.01 17:32:00 - [18] Thread of the day. It made me Lol.
Stan Smith	Posted - 2008.12.01 17:34:00 - [19] Epic WIn!
DubanFP Caldari R.U.S.T.	Posted - 2008.12.01 17:46:00 - [20] I love it when people are intentionally picking on newbs and then after you blast them they start calling you a coward or some such for using a much better ship to kill him. It's just sooo ironic. _______________ "It's not about the look of your ship or the size of your guns. It's about what kind of **** you can $@## up with it"



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