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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.11.30 22:50:00 -
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Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.11.30 22:55:00 -
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Wardeccing carebears is in accordance with the rules.
-------- Ideas for: Mining
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.11.30 22:55:00 -
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ITT: Taking the EULA way too literally.
New Eden Research, where your research gets done!
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jana Clant ITT: Taking the EULA way too literally.
Game policies are metaphorical or something? So for example:
23. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.
This is just an allegory and is really just saying that you should try to play fair with the other players online?
Therefore it's alright to exploit?
haha I'm pretty sure game policies are meant to be taken quite literally. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:01:00 -
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10/10.
As for the EULA, doesn't it also say you can't intentionally cause lag/crash nodes? That rules out 2000 man blobs.
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Your post is interfering with my enjoyment. "Enjoy" your ban.
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jana Clant on 30/11/2008 23:04:14
Originally by: Jason Edwards
Originally by: Jana Clant ITT: Taking the EULA way too literally.
Game policies are metaphorical or something? So for example:
23. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.
This is just an allegory and is really just saying that you should try to play fair with the other players online?
Therefore it's alright to exploit?
haha I'm pretty sure game policies are meant to be taken quite literally.
Fair point. But taking the line from the EULA you have on the OP:
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
By your argument, you're meant to take this to the letter, so the very act of other people logging in can interfere with my ability to enjoy the game. (lag reasons, for example) OMG I NEED MY OWN SERVER!
New Eden Research, where your research gets done!
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
reported, interfered with my enjoyment. --
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Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Your post is interfering with my enjoyment. "Enjoy" your ban.
Your avatar is interfering with my enjoyment, I only want to see female chars on the forums.
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Troezar
Fatality.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:05:00 -
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This thread tells you all you need to know about what is wrong with the law today, all literal no spirit
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Karille
Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:11:00 -
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Missiles interfere with my enjoyment. Please ban them.
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Essack Leadae
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Essack Leadae on 30/11/2008 23:14:02
PVP interfere with my trade, so with my enjoyment. I don't like be killed. Please remove it.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards ...in accordance with its rules.
What is so difficult here? Killing, stealing, and scamming are all within the rules so the player being scammed, robbed, and/or killed is viewed as enjoying the game.
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Cantana Soul
Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:24:00 -
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your face! none enjoying it! to the forums!
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ShardowRhino
Caldari Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. in accordance with its rules.[/b]
Hey, uh i hate to point it out to you but wardecs are within the rules of the EULA and game. "in accordance with its rules" says it all. Maybe its just me and my damned reading comprehension in excess of the 1st grade but it seems like your only reading what you WANT to read.
that or this is the dumbest troll ever. Seriously, on these forums at times, its just kinda hard to tell due to the experiences ive had with other eve players...
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Nitakko
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
War-decs are within the rules. Thread fails.
Also, nerf falcons. -------------------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal So we can 1 v 1 with Garmon. We are not on holiday, we never sleep.
Originally by: CCP Mindstar Hamsters applied. Run, my pretties!
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Yoinx
Caldari Black Elite
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Yoinx on 30/11/2008 23:34:42 Edited by: Yoinx on 30/11/2008 23:33:38 3. You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies
Weren't pirates hate-mongers?
Also, I believe carebears may be sexist...
Also.
6. You will follow the instructions of authorized personnel while in the EVE Online game world or using the EVE Online web site.
I sure hope this one doesnt apply to sexual instructions.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
reported, interfered with my enjoyment.
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
I'll feed the troll :P
Wardeccing is part of the enjoyment of the game. If you didn't want to run the risk of being wardecced, you'd stick to NPC corps.
Where's the enjoyment without the risk? This isn't Wii Fit, you do realise that don't you?
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Malcanis on 30/11/2008 23:40:46 EDIT: forum script is frisky tonight...
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Another Forum'Alt
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Your post is interfering with my enjoyment. "Enjoy" your ban.
Your avatar is interfering with my enjoyment, I only want to see female chars on the forums.
Fair point. I will change it to a pert ambulatory ass ASAP.
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.11.30 23:41:00 -
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Garmon inte-
Oh Wait There was even talk of French toast
But there was none to be had |
Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.12.01 00:33:00 -
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good song. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
Hana Lena
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.01 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Hea cool maby I'll go join a player corp now that I know I'll be just as safe... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ADHD + Dyslexia = BAD SPELLING!
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MooKids
Caldari Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2008.12.01 00:41:00 -
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...in accordance with its rules.
Read the full line, not just what you want to believe. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.12.01 00:45:00 -
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OP: Something for your christmas wishlist.
Linkage
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.12.01 00:54:00 -
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Reading comprehension?
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game
or
web site in accordance with its rules.
Perhaps you guys need some reading comprehension lessons? ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
Stab Wounds
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.01 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Reading comprehension?
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game
or
web site in accordance with its rules.
Perhaps you guys need some reading comprehension lessons?
He's right, you guys just got owned.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.12.01 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Perhaps you guys need some reading comprehension lessons?
Nope, it's:
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the (game or web site) in accordance with its rules.
or to be even more clear:
16a. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game in accordance with its rules.
16b. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the web site in accordance with its rules.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2008.12.01 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
That is way too literal an interpretation, by that any war dec can get ur corp flagged by ccp.
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.12.01 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Jason Edwards Perhaps you guys need some reading comprehension lessons?
Nope, it's:
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the (game or web site) in accordance with its rules.
or to be even more clear:
16a. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game in accordance with its rules.
16b. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the web site in accordance with its rules.
Um no. The original sentence is missing grammar in that instance. You are wrong. |
4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2008.12.01 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Ok so by the same token, when you are war deced and dont undock or try and fight the people war decing you, you are intefering with there ability to enjoy the game and you should be banned?
npc corp = 0 war decs... if you dont want them thats your solution you chose to be able to be war declared by joining a player corporation. This rule only applies to things people cant avoid (to my understanding). |
Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards
Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Jason Edwards Perhaps you guys need some reading comprehension lessons?
Nope, it's:
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the (game or web site) in accordance with its rules.
or to be even more clear:
16a. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game in accordance with its rules.
16b. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the web site in accordance with its rules.
Um no. The original sentence is missing grammar in that instance. You are wrong.
On the vanishingly remote chance that you're sincere: EvE is founded on non-consensual PvP.
To save you googling: "non-consensual PvP" means PvP where one or more of the parties involved did not want to fight.
tl;dr: you lost your hauler/mission/ratting/etc ship, now suck it up. |
Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.12.01 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Um no. The original sentence is missing grammar in that instance. You are wrong.
You mean it should read "either the game or the website"?
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.12.01 02:06:00 -
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Forums are interfering with my ability to enjoy, as a subscriber, the web site in accordance with its rules.
Will they be removed? ______________________________________________
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.12.01 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Karille Missiles interfere with my enjoyment. Please ban them.
Quantum Rise.
Hope your enjoyment goes up!
AK Honor is that which you do when no one else is looking.
Ethics, Honor and Respect. Without the first two, you can't buy the last one...
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.12.01 03:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jason Edwards on 01/12/2008 03:06:58
Originally by: Malcanis
tl;dr: you lost your hauler/mission/ratting/etc ship, now suck it up.
I lost nothing but 16 minutes actually.
I surrendered 16 minutes after I was wardecced. So 16 minutes after the war actually allowed shooting the war was over and they couldnt shoot me anymore.
*of note... it cost me nothing and it cost them the wardec isk. They got no kills in the 16minutes of war. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |
Ga'len
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.12.01 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
No, read it again. "...in accordance with its rules." War declarations are part of the game rules, therefore, putting a war declaration on a corp IS following the rules for war declarations.
The EULA is a complete document that binds you to the rules of the game mechanics. You can find those rules, which you left our of your argument, in the knowledge base on this website.
Fail troll is fail.
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Speculative Sally
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Posted - 2008.12.01 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Carebears crying about my wardec and petitioning interferes with my enjoyment of the game, therefore it is against policy.
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Rawne Karrde
An Tir Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.12.01 03:40:00 -
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I've said it once and I'll say it again, Eve does have consensual pvp. You consent to it when you login. nuff said.
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bait fiskeagn
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Posted - 2008.12.01 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Better remember that- you can war dec, caldari, gallente, amarr and minmatar, but not the Carebear's thats against the rules!!!
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Mika Meroko
Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.01 06:40:00 -
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the only thing where you get in trouble is if you continuously harass someone after they disengaged (say, they admit defeat, and disbanded into npc corp) for weeks on end....
otherwise, is fine to wardec...
just dont take it TOO far... and you will be okay.
Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.01 07:34:00 -
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The Presence of other players on the server interferes with my enjoyment of this single player game. Please ban them all. uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Ticondrius
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.01 09:18:00 -
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5 years of EVE, no one has been hit by the banstick simply for wardeccing someone else.
OP = Fail. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PROPOSAL: Good Bug Reporting Incentives MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls |
3rr0rc0d3
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.01 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards I lost nothing but 16 minutes actually.
I surrendered 16 minutes after I was wardecced. So 16 minutes after the war actually allowed shooting the war was over and they couldnt shoot me anymore.
*of note... it cost me nothing and it cost them the wardec isk. They got no kills in the 16minutes of war.
Allow me to say: HAHA, that's what you get for being a tart in local. Stop your copy/paste heroism in local, stop trying to troll in local, and stop being an attention*****. The Fresh Prince routine is getting old. ______________________
Originally by: CCP SessionChange tbh guys, you're all slaves to me...
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Cairn Metalhand
Swedish Aerospace Inc G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.01 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cairn Metalhand on 01/12/2008 10:44:18
Originally by: Jason Edwards enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Just in case you didn't read what you quoted the first time...
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2008.12.01 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
Your comprehension of english failed you this time. I've re-emboldened the relevant words for you.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.01 12:54:00 -
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It might be a new concept, but some wars are fought because both sides enjoy PvP and a target that shoots back.
A strange concept indeed, to shoot something that might shoot back.
I think this ingame policy is more for the type of actions, like trying to crash the node or the server on purpose, or using a bug that lets the whole market in a region crash.
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Sutskop
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Posted - 2008.12.01 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards
I lost nothing but 16 minutes actually.
I surrendered 16 minutes after I was wardecced. So 16 minutes after the war actually allowed shooting the war was over and they couldnt shoot me anymore.
*of note... it cost me nothing and it cost them the wardec isk. They got no kills in the 16minutes of war.
so you literally owned them! iirc a surrender ends the war after 24h, so look out where you go with your hauler..
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.01 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Jason Edwards ...in accordance with its rules.
What is so difficult here? Killing, stealing, and scamming are all within the rules so the player being scammed, robbed, and/or killed is viewed as enjoying the game.
/Thread
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Lady Aja
Caldari Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.12.01 18:32:00 -
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Op fails to deliverresult is a failed troll!
want my 10 seconds of time back. and on that note idiots like him should be war decced on princeable.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.12.01 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards Terms of Service aka Game policy
16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.
Therefore, since wardeccing carebears interferes with their enjoyment of the game; you may not wardec carebears.
please stop crying because i may have to steal from your hangar next Trashed sig, Shark was here |
KingDiomedes
Caldari Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.01 22:15:00 -
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fear not carebears check out this video you are NOT ALONE !!
Video
enjoy
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Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2008.12.01 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Aja princeable.
as should twits who spell words like this
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Decimus Sellic
Amarr Athra Legio Triarii
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Posted - 2008.12.01 23:49:00 -
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So basically the OP is a pillock...
Further discussion if a waste of breath.
Legion
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2008.12.01 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards 16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.[/i]
Hey, they formed a corp. It happens.
If you nerfed carebear wardecs, what about those empire PvPers having their game ruined!
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