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Posted - 2008.12.04 05:15:00 -
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MMORPG is having an award for the best MMO-Studio in 2008.
I'm voting for CCP 
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Zephyr Rengate
Caldari
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2008.12.04 05:49:00 -
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who would vote for failcom?
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Kile Kitmoore
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Posted - 2008.12.04 06:47:00 -
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Edited by: Kile Kitmoore on 04/12/2008 06:48:03
Do you really think CCP deserves this award? The way in which they handled Ghost Training, the thin content in QR, sloppy patch deployment and no sign of WIS? Sorry, but I think not.
Turbine should and will win. I don't play LOTR but respect the way in which they beta/launched and continue to support that title.
Give me a chance to vote for #1 MMO and EVE has my vote, hands down.
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Cyprus Black
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.04 07:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Kile Kitmoore
Edited by: Kile Kitmoore on 04/12/2008 06:48:03
Do you really think CCP deserves this award? The way in which they handled Ghost Training, the thin content in QR, sloppy patch deployment and no sign of WIS? Sorry, but I think not.
Well, do you really think Blizzard deserves it? Intergalactic undead space goats jumping motorcycles over sharks, retlore, The awful BC expansion, poorly moderated forums, and a playerbase worse than all other MMOs combined. Easily worse than 4chan.
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Phantom Slave
Amarr
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.04 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cyprus Black
Well, do you really think Blizzard deserves it? Intergalactic undead space goats jumping motorcycles over sharks, retlore, The awful BC expansion, poorly moderated forums, and a playerbase worse than all other MMOs combined. Easily worse than 4chan.
What in the hell is "Intergalactic undead space goats jumping motorcycles over sharks"? This has me so damn confused it's unbelievable!
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.12.04 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Phantom Slave
Originally by: Cyprus Black
Well, do you really think Blizzard deserves it? Intergalactic undead space goats jumping motorcycles over sharks, retlore, The awful BC expansion, poorly moderated forums, and a playerbase worse than all other MMOs combined. Easily worse than 4chan.
What in the hell is "Intergalactic undead space goats jumping motorcycles over sharks"? This has me so damn confused it's unbelievable!
Draenei death knights on motorcycles (engineering mounts) jumping over northrend mobs.
I think it is all rather entertaining instead of the OMG SO SERIOUS backstory of other mmo's. I like the humour, but I have been called a fangirl before *shrugs*
When it comes down to voting, I am giving my vote to CCP, simply because I think despite the bad things they've been working really hard to keep the fanbase happy.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.04 09:02:00 -
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Blizzard.
Why?
Because Blizzard doesn't always = World of Warcraft.
Blizzard gave us Starcraft and Diablo as well...
And the World of Warcraft expansions show a lot of work. Even if some people think they "suck", Northrend has some awesome visuals despite the archaic graphics engine. They put a lot more into their expansions and their game with each expansion.
Their products have better prescence on the market (i'm still in awe at the content of my ú49.99 WOTLK Collectors Edition, the amount of things you get, for less than the average console game... Its awesome.)
Blizz are the most successful, have some serious revenue and are the most recognised.
At the end of the day, one game doesn't dictate who is the "best". In my mind, If i was voting on the "best" MMO studio, It would be on the most successful. Which, unfortunately for the CCP fanboys, is Blizzard.
And to be honest, EVE "expansions" compared to even free to play MMOs, are dreadful. They aren't even worthy of being expansions... they're more or less content patches. Sure you don't pay for them... but thats because theres **** all in them. A few tweaked models, a new ship, some adjusted numbers...
If Ambulation ever sees the light of day, Thats a real expansion, and thats when CCP will nail their name onto the map. Adding something that NO-ONE has done yet in the MMO Market, and providing their extreme amount of detail will result in people becoming a lot more interested in EVE.
For now though, I vote for Blizz.
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Brisco County
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.04 11:49:00 -
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mmorpg.com polls have about as much credibility as Sarah Palin did.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2008.12.04 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Blizzard.
Why?
Because Blizzard doesn't always = World of Warcraft.
It's a vote for the best MMOstudio. WOW is the only thing that matters.
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
And the World of Warcraft expansions show a lot of work. Even if some people think they "suck", Northrend has some awesome visuals despite the archaic graphics engine. They put a lot more into their expansions and their game with each expansion.
Lot of what? First guilds to clear all WotLK content took less than 72 hours. It left some questions on those players mind:
"This is both a moment of triumph and a cause for concern. The question in all our minds right now is if we could do this, how soon until the rest of the top guilds in the world clear all the raid content that WOTLK has to offer?"
"Did Blizzard miscalculate in the tuning of these encounters? Or is this Blizzard folding under the weight of a large casual player base that demands to be on equal footing with end-game"
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Their products have better prescence on the market (i'm still in awe at the content of my ú49.99 WOTLK Collectors Edition, the amount of things you get, for less than the average console game... Its awesome.)
Blizz are the most successful, have some serious revenue and are the most recognised.
It's propably the most commercially succesful game ever made. It's going to have the best market presense and has enough die hard fans, that making those special products are commercially a viable option.
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
At the end of the day, one game doesn't dictate who is the "best". In my mind, If i was voting on the "best" MMO studio, It would be on the most successful. Which, unfortunately for the CCP fanboys, is Blizzard.
Success doesn't equal best quality in all aspects. WOW is a good themepark game, where everyone is a winner no matter what they do. At the time it was released, it didn't offer anything others hadn't done before. Blizzard just did what it did with warcraft and starcraft. It copied the ideas of others and modified it enough to not get sued, while refining the playability to perfection. If you think it deserved to be voted for the best MMO studio, then vote for it. I don't care for what Blizzard decided to do with WOW, but compared to most MMOs, it has nothing to be ashamed of.
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
And to be honest, EVE "expansions" compared to even free to play MMOs, are dreadful. They aren't even worthy of being expansions... they're more or less content patches. Sure you don't pay for them... but thats because theres **** all in them. A few tweaked models, a new ship, some adjusted numbers...
EVE expansions are also about new mechanics, not just static content. This is a sandbox not a theme park like WOW. Although this latest EVE expansion was weak in both aspects. More like standard rebalancing and performance impovements, that were welcome, but do not an expansion make.
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
If Ambulation ever sees the light of day, Thats a real expansion, and thats when CCP will nail their name onto the map. Adding something that NO-ONE has done yet in the MMO Market, and providing their extreme amount of detail will result in people becoming a lot more interested in EVE.
More like what everyone has done on the MMO map and CCP is late to the party. Ambulation will propably be very simple at first, like most new things when first introduced to EVE. Since direct controls of avatars will be limited to social interaction only, adding as much detail and things to do, is the only way CCP can make it work. I hope you are right about CCP achieving something unique with ambulation and really giving something special after years of waiting. Personally I think it will do that eventually, but propably not at first.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Reven Cordelle on 04/12/2008 12:28:06
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
This post took me FOREVER to write with all these quotes...
Valid points...
Safe to say, CCP really do need to pull something out of the hat with Ambulation. EVE is doomed to obscurity if it remains to be a game where you ARE a spaceship, and in bad situations.. a little egg.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.12.04 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Myrhial Arkenath on 04/12/2008 12:31:20
Theme park vs sandbox, didn't think of it like that yet. Good points raised there.
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Kerosene
Caldari
Emergent Chaos
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Posted - 2008.12.04 13:04:00 -
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I voted Mythic.
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Eve. Eve eve eve eve. EVE. Eve. Eve eve eve eve eve eve EVE eve eve. - Kerosene
The way to stop isk farmers is to STOP BUYING ISK.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kerosene
I voted Mythic.
Mythic are pretty awesome..
But CCP are even more awesome tbh, especially if you watch the latests fanfest vids :P |
Afale II
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kerosene
I voted Mythic.
I wanted to vote for Mythic too, then I remember the TOA Expansion.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.12.04 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/12/2008 14:23:37
Best is relative though.
Have to consider best profit, customer service, new content, game, game balancing etc etc.
This is not "best MMO", but best studio award.
Seeing as CCP kind of "struggled" to get to where it is, where blizzard had a stable ground to build on, it could weigh in for CCPs favor. Otherwise, all things considered, Blizzard might be better.
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Theme park vs sandbox, didn't think of it like that yet. Good points raised there.
Bad comparison. Would you rather sit in a sandbox building castles by yourself or go to a themepark?  |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.04 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Bad comparison. Would you rather sit in a sandbox building castles by yourself or go to a themepark?
You have to ask ? Build castles in the sand by the beach by myself, screw sandboxes, they're too small 
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.12.04 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Theme park vs sandbox, didn't think of it like that yet. Good points raised there.
Bad comparison. Would you rather sit in a sandbox building castles by yourself or go to a themepark?
Last time I checked eve was a sandbox in which you sit with a lot of people 
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.04 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Last time I checked eve was a sandbox in which you sit with a lot of people
And generally throw sand in each others eyes all the time. :<
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Liranan
M'8'S
Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.12.04 15:57:00 -
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World of Failcraft
Failcom
Mythic Disaster
NCGrind
Turban?
CCP/Failwolf?
First of all most of these companies have been an utter disaster and are ridiculously overhyped wastes of space. Blizzard have done nothing new with Something of the Simplified King. Their expansions only serve to simplify the game even more to attract ever younger players.
Failcom are, have and will be a failure.
Mythic... what needs to be said about these fools?
NCGrind is one I'd vote for, especially if you like playing Asian MMO's in which you grind for months for 1% XP.
Turban... sigh.
I believe the only reputable company among the MMO makers is CCP. Their expansions are dull, their GM's are lazy, their Devs are incompetent. Now let's go read the patch notes shall we? The last few carebear expansions have updated PVP, added more options to maintain and control fleets, have removed a stupid thing such as ghost training and have been working hard to keep us, the players happy. I would like someone to point out where the other companies have done things to keep the players happy.
Players of all classes have been complaining how overpowered rogues are in WoW and what have BlizFail done about it? A lot of nothing. Also the comparisson between EVE and WoW is a stupid one at best, EVE isn't full of immature 12 year olds who think they're 1337 just because they finished the same dungeon or raid for the 112353th time and got that one item that will allow them to do the next raid 32353 times.
Nobody can deny that WoW is a successful game but it's not revolutionary. CCP took concepts from many games and incorperated them into a 'new' game, however there are many things in EVE that you won't find in any other game (the irritating POS for one). Also if we look at the average age of players in WoW-like games and then compare them with EVE we can, at least, boast that we don't have the most immature and unfriendly community.
After two years I am still not fed up with EVE, though the secret is to play many games at once, not concentrate on one and get burned out. I fully accept that Blizzard are a successfull company but I also know that they are like this because they have made a kiddy game.
My vote? To K2 for being the most aweful company I have ever seen but lacking that it's CCP for making the best game I ever played.
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