| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Earthan
   |
Posted - 2003.06.17 19:57:00 -
[1]
It seems to me that Jaspet with the time of mining and the amount of space it takes in cargo (wich translates into time you spend on hauling) is worse then Kernite.
I mean the value of the minerals you get is only a factor in profitability ,the true value of ore in Eve can only be described by a money/time unit.
What do you thing?This is weird as Jaspet is found in lower sec then Kernite.
Stars, stars like dust, all around me.... |
Guilbert
|
Posted - 2003.06.17 20:03:00 -
[2]
i think you missed another value
wich is the value of an ore for the industry
like ship production or equipment production
...
Mess with the best..
..and die like the rest |
dalman
|
Posted - 2003.06.17 20:33:00 -
[3]
Yes. If you calculate minerals at NPC-price, then:
Kernite is better than Jaspet
Pyro is better than Plagi.
(Value per volume)
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Private Idaho
|
Posted - 2003.06.17 20:33:00 -
[4]
Using my Indy of roughly 5000 cargo space and just selling the Nox for 256, you would make roughly 248K per load of Jaspet.
With the same figures and only selling Isogen, you would only get 192k for the load of Kernite.
But if you did the same thing with our favorite, Omber, you would get a little over 245k.
Here's what I used. With no skills involved, just using the normal ore content and market prices. I know that you would have more Trit, Pyrite, and Mex but didn't count them in.
For the Jaspet = (((5000/2)/500)*197)*256
For the Kernite = (((5000/1.2)/400)*289)*64
For the Omber = (((5000/0.6)/500*230)*64
So that is why I am Omber at the present time as all three would take me 2 hours to do, and dodging pirates add to the time. But with a low Sec Lvl, Omber is a little safer and more profitable.
And as for the other minerals, I just add them into the Corp's manufacturing bins. :)
|
dalman
|
Posted - 2003.06.17 20:48:00 -
[5]
Hey, why are you talking about the values when you put a random amount in corp???
This is how much each ore is worth per m^3. That is, multiply your cargospace with these numbers to figure out how much you get per run.
1. This is WITHOUT REFINING SKILL.
2. This is if you SELL EVERYTHING at NPC-PRICE.
These are the numbers:
Omber: 51.06
Jaspet: 56.84
Kernite 58.43
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Earthan
|
Posted - 2003.06.17 21:17:00 -
[6]
Idaho I think you are missing the very important part in your calculations: the time it takes to mine Jaspet is much longer then Kernite.You only takes in your calculations the time you need to haul.
I would agree with Dalmen that of the 3: Kernite best
Jaspet
Omber
Stars, stars like dust, all around me.... |
Sri
|
Posted - 2003.06.17 23:11:00 -
[7]
idaho is seeing the effects of rounding, or end points. If you are only mining 5000 m^3 (and then destroying the leftovers never to add to the leftovers) than you may well get more for 5000 space of jaspet, than kernite, because you won't be able to refine all of the kernite, and have some 'left over' for the next time.
So it depends on what you want to do.
|
dalman
|
Posted - 2003.06.17 23:15:00 -
[8]
Yep. My post is correct.
And in the same way, Pyro is a little better than Plagi, because of less volume.
When comparing ore, you always have to compare the value in isk/volume. That's the same thing as isk/time, cause your mininglasers is volume/time and when shipping your ore its volume/time.
The complete list, in order:
Ark
Bist
Cro
Spo
Dark
Gnei
Hedb
Hemo
Kern
Jasp
Omb
Pyro
Plagi
Scor
Veld
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Demangel
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 01:08:00 -
[9]
For me with an iteron MKII doing the hauling and 2 miner 1's and 2 basic mining drones I mine 92 Kern a minute.
This equates to around 392K an hour or so. (92 units a minute * 60 = 5520 units of Kern, divided by 400 13.8 top off my cargo for a full 14 and multiply by 28049 ISK
Omber is actually worth LESS per hour with that configuration, in fact until you get around the bistot ark level of mining, Kernite is the best mineral as far as pure NPC price cash goes.
Hedbergite and hemorphite are nearly worthless NPC CASH wise, same for jaspet ETC.
However if you need Zydrine, or megacite you NEED things like Gniess Spod ETc.
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you
Demangel > Dude... I would call..
Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet.
Galaxion > Just a bit.
|
dalman
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 02:11:00 -
[10]
"Omber is actually worth LESS per hour with that configuration, in fact until you get around the bistot ark level of mining, Kernite is the best mineral as far as pure NPC price cash goes."
Darn. I've already wrote the ores in order according to NPC-prices... And of course Omber is worth less than Kernite.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Kayosoni
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 03:01:00 -
[11]
Taking into account Refining amount, ore amount mined per minute, etc, all ores have a value greater than the last in the normal order except hemorphite, which is better than kernite, but worse than jaspet.
-----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |
Reathe
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 07:50:00 -
[12]
Um, why don't you just use an ore calculator to get the EXACT value of the ore you are mining per cargo hold size, say for an indi cargo hold?
www.eve-i.com has a nice easy to use one :)
|
Enfors
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 08:41:00 -
[13]
 Quote:
The complete list, in order:
Ark
Bist
Cro
Spo
Dark
Gnei
Hedb
Hemo
Kern
Jasp
Omb
Pyro
Plagi
Scor
Veld
Hey, wait a minute. Take a look at the first letter of each of those ores. They're almost alphabetically ordered. Interesting.
--
Admiral Enfors
Intergalatic Security Agency |
snotty
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 10:01:00 -
[14]
you mine for isk?
i did not do that after day one, mine for corp and jaspet is a good ore to mine.
Its not the best, but the rocks are big and its easy to find so we got a good supply of nox
|
Madcow
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 10:05:00 -
[15]
But if you got refining skill then jaspet will be worth more then kernite if you sell all at npc prises.
______________________
I am just a crazy cow |
dalman
|
Posted - 2003.06.18 16:31:00 -
[16]
"But if you got refining skill then jaspet will be worth more then kernite if you sell all at npc prises."
No. It doesn't matter. Regardless of refining-skill, the value of the ore is in the order I've listed them...
Of course, if you're part of a corp it doesn't matter. Mostly mining scor and pyro myself...
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Caliadar
|
Posted - 2003.06.19 21:19:00 -
[17]
Someone what to clarify what NPC cash is? I wasn't aware that NPC's bought anything in this game...
|
BSOD
|
Posted - 2003.06.20 14:29:00 -
[18]
http://militech.nord.is/orecalc/
Is my orecalc, which takes into account partial refines.
http://militech.nord.is/orecalc.pl is the Perl sourcecode.
"Proposed Enhanced Kernite" is related to another thread of mine. :)
It will give you ISK per hour defaulting at NPC price (which can be changed), and units of minerals per hour.
Kernite is better than Jaspet at NPC price. (Only slightly so). Given that selling any serious quantities of nox at NPC price is damn near impossible these days (And you though iso was bad???), Kernite is far better than Jaspet.
Pyrox is better than Plag, but it's somewhat easier to sell the minerals that result from plag. (Again, the nox issue) Pyrox is an excellent ore for those who are producing ships, as it gives a wide variety of minerals in pretty reasonable proportions.
----------------
Blue Screen of Death
CEO
Exodus Enterprises |
Lester Mako
|
Posted - 2003.06.20 19:41:00 -
[19]
There are only two reasons to mine:
1) For material to build ships and equipment
2) For Megacyte (price ranges between 6k and 11k)
Anything else is practice.
Miner, Seller of Minerals, Father |
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |