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JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.15 08:16:00 - [1] From the patchlog for 1709: Originally by: Traveler Missing eye now shows when saving portrait. Portraits are saved as JPEGs with 2048x2048 Pixels. Thanks for the extra eye (which was easily replaced with Photoshop before anyway) but why a compressed format? No, don't freakin want that!
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.15 08:16:00 - [2] From the patchlog for 1709: Originally by: Traveler Missing eye now shows when saving portrait. Portraits are saved as JPEGs with 2048x2048 Pixels. Thanks for the extra eye (which was easily replaced with Photoshop before anyway) but why a compressed format? No, don't freakin want that!
Nafri	Posted - 2004.07.15 08:25:00 - [3] Originally by: JP Beauregard From the patchlog for 1709: Originally by: Traveler Missing eye now shows when saving portrait. Portraits are saved as JPEGs with 2048x2048 Pixels. Thanks for the extra eye (which was easily replaced with Photoshop before anyway) but why a compressed format? No, don't freakin want that! maybe thy dont want to safe a 2048x248 as bmp with some MB Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.07.15 08:25:00 - [4] Originally by: JP Beauregard From the patchlog for 1709: Originally by: Traveler Missing eye now shows when saving portrait. Portraits are saved as JPEGs with 2048x2048 Pixels. Thanks for the extra eye (which was easily replaced with Photoshop before anyway) but why a compressed format? No, don't freakin want that! maybe thy dont want to safe a 2048x248 as bmp with some MB Wanna fly with me?
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.18 07:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Nafri maybe thy dont want to safe a 2048x248 as bmp with some MB 2048x248? Panty-sized? Anyway, it's my freakin' disk space and I have plenty of it. Why not save them as PNGs - compressed but not lossy at full color - if they are to be compressed at all? JP Beauregard === The Pilkington Guides to EVE ===
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.18 07:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Nafri maybe thy dont want to safe a 2048x248 as bmp with some MB 2048x248? Panty-sized? Anyway, it's my freakin' disk space and I have plenty of it. Why not save them as PNGs - compressed but not lossy at full color - if they are to be compressed at all? JP Beauregard === The Pilkington Guides to EVE ===
Sicori Malaki	Posted - 2004.07.18 18:39:00 - [7] why not just an option of JPG, BMP, PNG, TGA and whatever else is out there. I'd choose JPG if I wanted casual screens without wasting space and TGA if I want some material I can edit and use in desk wallpapers or sigs or banners and such.. ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end.
Sicori Malaki	Posted - 2004.07.18 18:39:00 - [8] why not just an option of JPG, BMP, PNG, TGA and whatever else is out there. I'd choose JPG if I wanted casual screens without wasting space and TGA if I want some material I can edit and use in desk wallpapers or sigs or banners and such.. ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end.
gk0r	Posted - 2004.07.19 03:36:00 - [9] Edited by: gk0r on 19/07/2004 03:38:19 Keep the JPG that's fine. JP, there are levels to compression and quality so don't cry your pants out. As for suggesting BMPs, come on - that's character info, you know how many character portraits I have shown? You know how many mega / gigabytes would they all sum up to? Just because you have more free HDD space than common sense shouldn't make anybody else' life miserable ---------------------- I make up with stupidity for the rest of my corporation.
gk0r	Posted - 2004.07.19 03:36:00 - [10] Edited by: gk0r on 19/07/2004 03:38:19 Keep the JPG that's fine. JP, there are levels to compression and quality so don't cry your pants out. As for suggesting BMPs, come on - that's character info, you know how many character portraits I have shown? You know how many mega / gigabytes would they all sum up to? Just because you have more free HDD space than common sense shouldn't make anybody else' life miserable ---------------------- I make up with stupidity for the rest of my corporation.
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.19 05:57:00 - [11] Edited by: JP Beauregard on 19/07/2004 05:59:13 gk0r, you clearly have absolutely no clue as to what we're talking about here. This is not about character portarits shown in chat etc., this is about captured portraits, which are currently saved as BMPs and can only be seen - and easily deleted from your HD - if you look in the right places. And if I want to work with those captured portraits, I don't want any artifacts. That'll be 1 isk, please.
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.19 05:57:00 - [12] Edited by: JP Beauregard on 19/07/2004 05:59:13 gk0r, you clearly have absolutely no clue as to what we're talking about here. This is not about character portarits shown in chat etc., this is about captured portraits, which are currently saved as BMPs and can only be seen - and easily deleted from your HD - if you look in the right places. And if I want to work with those captured portraits, I don't want any artifacts. That'll be 1 isk, please.
Slayer Ceetesh	Posted - 2004.07.19 12:03:00 - [13] yeah it is a pain especially when you do a members list etc for web pages http://www.freewebs.com/cfs-navy
Slayer Ceetesh	Posted - 2004.07.19 12:03:00 - [14] yeah it is a pain especially when you do a members list etc for web pages http://www.freewebs.com/cfs-navy
knifee	Posted - 2004.07.19 12:32:00 - [15] I think this might help out a little, taken from irc: Quote: [13:53] <Redundancy> as far as I'm aware, jpg only has the ability to be lossy through throwing away variable amounts of fourier transformed data [13:53] <Helforian> losslessness is determined by the "quality" setting of the jpg [13:55] <Redundancy> PNG merely lacks the ability to have any degree of lossyness, which is a restriction I think it would be better off without, but maybe there's a good reason As i understand it, the jpg are in fact saved at 100% quality eg lossless. So u have a bigger picture, and smaller filesize with no loss of quality.... which is a good thing i think.
knifee	Posted - 2004.07.19 12:32:00 - [16] I think this might help out a little, taken from irc: Quote: [13:53] <Redundancy> as far as I'm aware, jpg only has the ability to be lossy through throwing away variable amounts of fourier transformed data [13:53] <Helforian> losslessness is determined by the "quality" setting of the jpg [13:55] <Redundancy> PNG merely lacks the ability to have any degree of lossyness, which is a restriction I think it would be better off without, but maybe there's a good reason As i understand it, the jpg are in fact saved at 100% quality eg lossless. So u have a bigger picture, and smaller filesize with no loss of quality.... which is a good thing i think.
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.19 13:51:00 - [17] Fair enough. But then the patchlog had better say "lossless JPEGs" Btw, a PNG with > 16 milion colors is generally smaller by quite a bit than a lossless JPEG. And PNGs do have "degrees of lossyness", depending on the pallette and how you handle optional color reduction
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2004.07.19 13:51:00 - [18] Fair enough. But then the patchlog had better say "lossless JPEGs" Btw, a PNG with > 16 milion colors is generally smaller by quite a bit than a lossless JPEG. And PNGs do have "degrees of lossyness", depending on the pallette and how you handle optional color reduction
Xelios	Posted - 2004.07.19 18:59:00 - [19] PNG is not a good format for photo-style images. In my experience if an image contains a lot of different colors and varies in color a lot from pixel to pixel png gives higher filesizes than jpeg if you don't want to sacrifice colors.
Xelios	Posted - 2004.07.19 18:59:00 - [20] PNG is not a good format for photo-style images. In my experience if an image contains a lot of different colors and varies in color a lot from pixel to pixel png gives higher filesizes than jpeg if you don't want to sacrifice colors.

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