uh. CCP isn't really losing players.

If a player doesn't bother to resub? I'd say thats losing players.

of mine had almost the same experience. I got him into an extended trial period. Because he was in a different TZ altogether I couldn't watch his back all the time. He isn't going to get a regular account. HTFU,LEET,NICHE GMPLY doesn't translate into $$s. I don't know what CCP needs to do but if they do keep losing players pretty much there won't be Eve.

Flame on.

You know this game really isn't growing right now. Most of the growth is either old accounts resubbing on alts, and their isn't much of that. CCP has creditors that aren't happy with them and may have public shareholders in the near future. Eventually, somebody who deals with real life isk is going to require CCP to show better growth numbers.

It would be a very good thing if CCP understood the extent of their new player retention period now. Would you rather be dealing with this with the current folks at CCP or wait until their is a change in management/control and god knows who we'll have to deal with.

I thought it was called the day to day operation of running an MMO. But I guess there are MMOs out there that people don't ever unsub from... Go figure.

Yeah, the ever increasing upward curve of subscriptions that has never happened in any other mmo for 10 years running will be the death of EVE.

I do remember recently reading that CCP is actually doing well money wise and made like 66 mil last year.

Lol! Guess we were all worried about nothing. My apologies.

I thought it was called the day to day operation of running an MMO. But I guess there are MMOs out there that people don't ever unsub from... Go figure.

Lol! Guess I was all worried about nothing. My apologies.

I admit death was not the word I was looking for,stagnating maybe.

FTFY.

Yeah, CCP isn't all driving to work in Ferraris like certain other companies. Their business will die without their Ferrari backbone.

And then look at them reaching a whole different market with Dust to reinforce their company without altering EVE to be something it is not. Yet also making more aware of the CCP brand through sony's propaganda machine.

MMO business expert on the boards everyone.

And then look at them reaching a whole different market with Dust to reinforce their company without altering EVE to be something it is not. Yet also making more aware of the CCP brand through sony's propaganda machine.

Yes,it was me that posted numbers and what the company made last year.

Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.

Sorry that I read and try to actually know about topics before opening my trap?

Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.

Sorry I recollected what happened to my friend and didn't cite numbers like the MMO expert I was supposed to be?

Yeah I thought I knew who you were. Try to keep this account unbanned this time.

None of my accounts have ever been banned, either in game or on the forums. That wasn't a well played speculation. Goon Jr.

Goons don't really do the whole "pet" thing. They really aren't into the whole "padding their space with people they don't like" thing, either.

Goons tend to shoot people they don't like. Hell, Goons tend to shoot people they DO like, for fun. All these people that you refer to as "pets", likely because you think they have no voice or something (idk, really). They are all friends of Goons. They like Goons, and Goons like them.

Goons don't abandon their friends, like certain alliances did with their "pets". If Raiden. or whoever decides to try and take a swipe at an ally, and that ally looks like they might not handle it, Goons will come and help out if asked. Not for any cost, or payment or anything. Just to help out a friend in need.

So you can take your little "pets" business and turn around and go back to whatever corner of space that you call home and enjoy your little ideas on your own time.

This is so true, if eve is not around still when I turn 40 (im in my mid twenties) then sandbox PvP simply does not work. Case closed.

Don't be salty. I am sorry about your cousins brother whose sister had a friend in college that knew a kid who got podded and unsubbed from eve. Tell him to come back. I'll toss him some iskies.

I don't ecpect EVE to die due to griefing. Ten years says that won't happen. It still isn't a rational reasoning for a policy that costs alot of profit for very little return.

I don't ecpect EVE to die due to griefing. Ten years says that won't happen. It still isn't a rational reasoning for a policy that costs alot of profit for very little return.

Send it to me,ll make sure he gets it when he comes back.

We still friends?

Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.