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Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.12 16:59:00 -
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I recently read, that any tricky use of in-game mechanics to avoid getting hammered by the customs is considered an exploit.
Of such is the example of using the orca corporate hangar which has been since fixed, as well as the "wait one hour after dt" exploit.
There seem to be tricks that work to an extent having to do with fast warp action, but that again would be exploiting.
Is there such a thing as legitimate smuggling?
Only legitimate ways of smuggling I've read about have simply to do with finding routes that have no customs officials on them.
What are the facts concerning the customs officials?
- Do they always stick to the same gates or do they change gates? - Do they catch you 100% or is there chance involved? - Are there any in-game skills that influence this directly? - Is it possible to smuggle to Jita for example legitimately without being caught in any form? |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:06:00 -
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people smuggle stuff??? |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:08:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:people smuggle stuff???
I'm smuggling plums as we speak. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:24:00 -
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You may want to clarify you mean to smuggle actual illegal products.
Other kinds of smuggling exist and are quite alive in Eve. I just made almost a billion ISK off a smuggling op, but I'm not going to tell you how. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:27:00 -
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I'm making a report on the current state of booster business and through that I have to include mechanics of smuggling.
By smuggling I then mean boosters, specifically. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:29:00 -
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Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:Is there such a thing as legitimate smuggling?
No, it is mostly broken and has been for some time. Crimewatch 2.x might change it, someday. |
John Saumerez
Blood Contract. Mass Carnage
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:33:00 -
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smuggling combat boosters is easy, you just decline handing over the boostersand continue, try to start out 3 jumps or so from jita in low sec, sometimes u get caught others not at all, if ur caught and deny handing over the boosters you get fined so much isk per booster, but its not even comparable to the amount of isk you make from the boosters. also fast warping ship is great, not an exploit. getting gcc and being able to live is an exploit. but having the customs come after you and survivng is not, use alt cuz you take faction loss ass well per booster found |
Tarro Blood
Center Haus Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:34:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:people smuggle stuff??? I'm smuggling plums as we speak.
lol |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
575
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:48:00 -
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Tarro Blood wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:people smuggle stuff??? I'm smuggling plums as we speak. lol x2
Unless you are doing that ^ there is no such thing as smuggling in EvE.
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Bane Necran
280
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:55:00 -
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Closest i've found is transporting goods from 0.0 to hisec in a Prowler, but 0.0 alliances have been given relatively safe workarounds, so it's not necessary. Fun, though. |
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John Saumerez
Blood Contract. Mass Carnage
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:57:00 -
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re-edit to my post though, make sure to have enough isk in ur wallet to cover any fines, or it will put your wallet in the negative not allowing you to do anything on market or contracts |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
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Posted - 2012.04.12 17:57:00 -
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Some time ago, the devs were talking about removing the NPC customs ships and letting us do the scanning and, more importantly, the enforcement. Dunno if that's still coming soon(tm), or of it's quietly been removed from the to-do list. |
Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:17:00 -
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All fair and good, but does anyone have any facts concerning the customs? |
John Saumerez
Blood Contract. Mass Carnage
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:40:00 -
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Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:All fair and good, but does anyone have any facts concerning the customs?
getting caught is chance basis, they stick to the same gates, there is no legite way around them. best bet on chance basis is get to the closest low sec to the high sec dest then run them in there to decrease gates traveled and extra chances of being caught |
Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:54:00 -
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Thanks man, much appreciated. Have a like. |
Kuehnelt
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.12 23:01:00 -
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1. Buy drugs from trade hubs in factions that you're comfortable having as enemies: Res/Hek, Dodixie/whatever.
2. Fly out of said faction space.
3. When you get the popup at a gate, wait until you're warping off to X it out.
4. Eat the standings hit.
Untried; based mainly on a conversation during the 'bring back solo' podcast. You can get scrammed if you mess up step #3, but you won't get scrammed just for flying through their space even after they hate your guts. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
458
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Posted - 2012.04.12 23:39:00 -
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Those are lemons.
I AM ******* PISSED OFF THAT EVE WILL NOT RUN ON MY COMMODORE 64. **** THAT **** I QUIT. take all my isk for 1 trit. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1401
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Posted - 2012.04.12 23:51:00 -
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Is it lucrative to smuggle walnuts into Amarr space yet? |
Hayaishi
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2012.04.13 00:54:00 -
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People used to smuggle drugs in. They had to kill customs on gates and warp the hauler in after. THEN, the Orca arrived. Mr. Unregulated corp hangar won the day. |
Joran Dravius
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.13 01:46:00 -
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Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:Is there such a thing as smuggling anymore? You say "anymore" like there was such a thing as smuggling to begin with. |
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.13 07:42:00 -
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Smuggling is replaced by snuggling. With a face like yours I can see you'd have trouble with that.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold |
Nemo deBlanc
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.04.13 07:55:00 -
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Buy in Jita, jump out w/ JF or Blops. I'm told very fast warping ships are also fairly foolproof, but why chance it? |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2012.04.13 08:03:00 -
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I don't always do drugs, but when I do, I smuggle them myself.
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N'baro Dark
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:06:00 -
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Ah, the days of the Black Market Trading skill!
Not that it ever really worked correctly ...
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Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.19 02:46:00 -
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Lots of clueless talk it seems.
I actually had a nice chat with a guy running a working booster courier service throughout highsec, which can be found on the trade forums. He also gave me that trade secrets smirk, but after some poking answered that the tactic is wholeheartedly legitimate. What he considers legitimate is obviously questionable...
However, this is turning out to be such a myth that I'm planning on posting a 100 million tip for a working, doable, legitimate (as in not an oversight of customs mechanics = non exploit) method of running boosters wherever in highsec.
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