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Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.20 21:46:00 -
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The low pvp system become so bad actually, just AS or fregate size, nothing else, ccp need to change that no? ccp prefer work for 0.0 but time to creat a real pvp for low.
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Sarciss
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.12.20 22:16:00 -
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Ummm.. ok..?
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.20 22:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Yoko Lee
The low pvp system become so bad actually, just AS or fregate size, nothing else, ccp need to change that no? ccp prefer work for 0.0 but time to creat a real pvp for low.
what? I was ambushed by a cloaking BS gang hre the ohter day. They had horrible lock time of course and I got away, but still :P.
There are lots going on in low sec.
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Xori Ruscuv
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.12.20 22:38:00 -
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o.O
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Awesome Marie
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Awesome Marie on 20/12/2008 23:20:24
Are you talking about low-sec?
If so, I say these words and/or clusters of words to you:
Remote Repping battleship gang;
'****s n giggles'-cruiser gang;
t2 cruiser gang;
nano gang;
stealth bomber gang;
solo missionganking;
gang missionganking;
solo battleship bumping carebears of their missionstation when they undock;
regular cluster**** gatecamp.
Yes. They all (still) work, just do it right.
And by right I mean that you should bring at least one falcon (or ****load of BB's) and at least one scout if your ships are not cheap. But it was like that before the nano nerf aswell.
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Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Marie
Edited by: Awesome Marie on 20/12/2008 23:20:24
Are you talking about low-sec?
If so, I say these words and/or clusters of words to you:
Remote Repping battleship gang;
'****s n giggles'-cruiser gang;
t2 cruiser gang;
nano gang;
stealth bomber gang;
solo missionganking;
gang missionganking;
solo battleship bumping carebears of their missionstation when they undock;
regular cluster**** gatecamp.
Yes. They all (still) work, just do it right.
And by right I mean that you should bring at least one falcon (or ****load of BB's) and at least one scout if your ships are not cheap. But it was like that before the nano nerf aswell.
hehe no just the pvp die in low sec, i'm anti pirat but actually pirat win cause AS (impossible to catch them :)
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Caleb Marathon
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Yoko Lee
Originally by: Awesome Marie
Edited by: Awesome Marie on 20/12/2008 23:20:24
Are you talking about low-sec?
If so, I say these words and/or clusters of words to you:
Remote Repping battleship gang;
'****s n giggles'-cruiser gang;
t2 cruiser gang;
nano gang;
stealth bomber gang;
solo missionganking;
gang missionganking;
solo battleship bumping carebears of their missionstation when they undock;
regular cluster**** gatecamp.
Yes. They all (still) work, just do it right.
And by right I mean that you should bring at least one falcon (or ****load of BB's) and at least one scout if your ships are not cheap. But it was like that before the nano nerf aswell.
hehe no just the pvp die in low sec, i'm anti pirat but actually pirat win cause AS (impossible to catch them :)
You talking about unbeatable assault ships?
If so, try a module called sensor booster, or just don't engage the pirate if you're in an even more puny ship. Smartbombs are also fun against those buggers, and neutralizers, and small drones. Also try an interceptor.
If things still just flyes away, try a warp scrambler or a warp disruptor, I've heard they're great for pvp.
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Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Yoko Lee on 21/12/2008 00:02:26
Originally by: Caleb Marathon
Originally by: Yoko Lee
Originally by: Awesome Marie
Edited by: Awesome Marie on 20/12/2008 23:20:24
Are you talking about low-sec?
If so, I say these words and/or clusters of words to you:
Remote Repping battleship gang;
'****s n giggles'-cruiser gang;
t2 cruiser gang;
nano gang;
stealth bomber gang;
solo missionganking;
gang missionganking;
solo battleship bumping carebears of their missionstation when they undock;
regular cluster**** gatecamp.
Yes. They all (still) work, just do it right.
And by right I mean that you should bring at least one falcon (or ****load of BB's) and at least one scout if your ships are not cheap. But it was like that before the nano nerf aswell.
hehe no just the pvp die in low sec, i'm anti pirat but actually pirat win cause AS (impossible to catch them :)
You talking about unbeatable assault ships?
If so, try a module called sensor booster, or just don't engage the pirate if you're in an even more puny ship. Smartbombs are also fun against those buggers, and neutralizers, and small drones. Also try an interceptor.
If things still just flyes away, try a warp scrambler or a warp disruptor, I've heard they're great for pvp.
u know like me, impossible to lock a AS with sensor booster, they wo fast you know, no?
then, they kill or they wo.
after nano hac now you have AS impossible to kill ! clap clap ccp :)
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:57:00 -
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Epic tears and ****ty English. A winning combination.
20 bucks says OP is trying to catch AF's in a battleship with no sensor booster.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.21 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 21/12/2008 05:17:41
Ah, anti-pirate tears are so beautiful....
Here's a hint: if you're having problems catching frigates, try flying a frigate instead of your usual battleships/HACs. It's what the pirates have all learned to do, so why should you be any different? I guess it would kind of ruin your rule of "never engage without a guaranteed win" though...
Oh yeah, try training English past level 0. You might get more sympathy (or at least less laughing) that way.
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Kingwood
Amarr
Defile.
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Posted - 2008.12.21 07:53:00 -
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Oh hey, let's just attack this guy for not being able to speak english properly. It doesn't matter whether we agree or disagree. We don't even have to back up our arguments, because, well, his english sucks. He therefore must be dumb and mentally challenged.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
Army of One
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Posted - 2008.12.21 08:04:00 -
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Edited by: Kessiaan on 21/12/2008 08:07:25
A good interceptor pilot (with an SB + sigamp or two) can catch assault frigs on gates before they have a chance to warp out. (ouch and ouch if you need proof)
Stop crying and adapt already.
... besides, I've said all I'm going to say. You're reading my sig now! Bwa!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.21 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kingwood
Oh hey, let's just attack this guy for not being able to speak english properly. It doesn't matter whether we agree or disagree. We don't even have to back up our arguments, because, well, his english sucks. He therefore must be dumb and mentally challenged.
Oh, I attacked his arguments too. But as he's a member of a lame blob corp, I also flame him for everything else he says.
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Yoko Lee
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.21 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Kingwood
Oh hey, let's just attack this guy for not being able to speak english properly. It doesn't matter whether we agree or disagree. We don't even have to back up our arguments, because, well, his english sucks. He therefore must be dumb and mentally challenged.
Oh, I attacked his arguments too. But as he's a member of a lame blob corp, I also flame him for everything else he says.
Merin the troll...
My english is not perfect, for that, i'm sorry, but stop to say stupidity like this...
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Cibo Seidensha
Amarr
Biotronics Inc.
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.12.21 12:50:00 -
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In spite his bad wording, the OP is correct.
A properly fit frig will never be caught in a low sec gate camp. Advising to fit sensor boosters, or using a tackle frig is bull**** and borderline trolling. The target will warp off while still within the "decloak delay", or whatever you want to call it (same effect like a ship leaving station being invulnerable), so even 9999999999mm sensor strength will not lock this target.
I disagree with the need to fix this though. Small ships can hardly attack on gates in low sec due to sentrys, so I dont see why they should be easily caught in these places either.
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Laia Merrun
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.12.21 16:22:00 -
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HACs with SBs can do an okay job. They won't nab every frigate that comes through, but they don't have to stick around very long for you to catch them.
Problem is that with small, agile ships, the lag caused by decloaking and the resulting "target is invulnerable" timer pretty much give them all the time in the world to warp off.
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1nsan1ty
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Posted - 2008.12.21 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: 1nsan1ty on 21/12/2008 16:28:22
Merin needs some joy in his life.. and like soonish, judging by all his replies from across the board, he aint a really happy person!
Joke on the side, mocking for bad English is beyond ******ed, but ye.. OP needs to jump into some other ship :D
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Jalif
Black Sinisters
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Posted - 2008.12.21 16:28:00 -
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You are playing their game, let them play your game.
Fly in a cruiser sized ship that they would like to attack, or fly interceptors.
There is enough out there that kill AS without to much problem.
Tbh, so many people fly them, I know how to get those ships down. And I am laughing time over time how they break down in my t1 ship.
CEO of Black Sinisters |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.21 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: 1nsan1ty
Merin needs some joy in his life.. and like soonish, judging by all his replies, he aint a really happy person!
Joke on the side, mocking for bad English is beyond ******ed, but ye.. OP needs to jump into some other ship :D
I agree. Not everybody knows english that well. I am not english, but norwegian, but we have had english in our schools since I was 8 or 9, so I know it pretty well. But the older garde in Norway have not, as is the same in many ohter countries, and someone have not had it all even in our modern days and age. Getting mocked for it is not fun (I shrug it off, but it gets tedious after a while).
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
Army of One
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Posted - 2008.12.21 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cibo Seidensha
A properly fit frig will never be caught in a low sec gate camp. Advising to fit sensor boosters, or using a tackle frig is bull**** and borderline trolling. The target will warp off while still within the "decloak delay", or whatever you want to call it (same effect like a ship leaving station being invulnerable), so even 9999999999mm sensor strength will not lock this target
This is only true if you're a pirate - FW fleets (or any fleet that only shoots at war targets) don't have to worry about sentry guns, and thus can use interceptors or cheap tackle frigs, which, if fit propery and on a connection that's not laggy, are fast enough to catch small ships on gates. Not always, but often enough.
... besides, I've said all I'm going to say. You're reading my sig now! Bwa!
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