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Serena Mira'ht	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:17:00 - [1] I have just returned and I'm trying to get a handle on what is happening in the game now as well as what sorts of pilots are needed in general? Is there a specific set of skills needed more than any other or a general shortage of anything? What Ships and Ship skills would make you the most desirable to a team?
Sarciss SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:29:00 - [2] Falcon Pilots, not many of them around..
Mouji AlMefel	Posted - 2008.12.21 15:23:00 - [3] Edited by: Mouji AlMefel on 21/12/2008 15:23:20 lol Even I know that :p
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.12.21 17:28:00 - [4] Ships that nobody will ever complain about you bringing to a fleet: ECM (Kitsune, Blackbird, Rook, Falcon, Scorpion) Logistics (Basilisk, Scimitar, Guardian, Oneiros) __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
nabort Total Mayhem. Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2008.12.21 18:04:00 - [5] Originally by: Terianna Eri Ships that nobody will ever complain about you bringing to a fleet: ECM (Kitsune, Blackbird, Rook, Falcon, Scorpion) Logistics (Basilisk, Scimitar, Guardian, Oneiros) And Gang Links -Damnation...Claymore.......Vulture...............Eos Mindlink using CS pilots actually appear to be pretty few and far between, or at least people willing to fly them.
Yelan Zhou Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.21 19:08:00 - [6] One might not forget the Interceptor. War. War never changes.
Death's Miner	Posted - 2008.12.21 19:20:00 - [7] i have never once seen an fc complain about someone in an anti interceptor (ie assault launchers) cerberus
LadyLubU2 Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.21 21:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Sarciss Falcon Pilots, not many of them around.. -- Sig: NARF FALCONS!!! Please resixe image to the maxiumum allowed filesize of 400 x 120 pixels. Navigator
Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated	Posted - 2008.12.21 23:53:00 - [9] Edited by: Warrio on 21/12/2008 23:53:27 Originally by: Serena Mira'ht I have just returned and I'm trying to get a handle on what is happening in the game now as well as what sorts of pilots are needed in general? Is there a specific set of skills needed more than any other or a general shortage of anything? What Ships and Ship skills would make you the most desirable to a team? Eve is not WoW. Numbers are not capped, bring a ship and you'll be welcome. sXe
Noisrevbus Caldari Breams Gone Wild	Posted - 2008.12.22 00:52:00 - [10] Some general pointers. Originally by: Warrio Numbers are not capped, bring a ship and you'll be welcome. This, in essence. You can also train for several different ships, and whatever sort of roles are wanted in a given fleet tend to change from time to time. Certain fleets can also have a predefined composition where there are some basic things you need to be able to do to join up (eg., you might need a reasonably fast ship). Those demands also tend to differ alot from corp to corp (alliance) and fleet to fleet. Quote: Mindlink using CS pilots actually appear to be pretty few and far between, or at least people willing to fly them. The reason for this is quite simply that there are so many skills you need to train that are "out of progression" for anything else. Personally i like that though, it is a very specialized role and to enjoy flying it requires a certain mindset. Group bonuses always apply up, and it's really a role you don't want everyone to go for (unless you have the luxury of having enough skill points to do anything you want). Quote: ECM (Kitsune, Blackbird, Rook, Falcon, Scorpion) Logistics (Basilisk, Scimitar, Guardian, Oneiros) Flavour will always be flavour. There is nothing wrong in flying those ships, but it should also be noted that these ships also fill pretty specialized roles. Ships in very specific roles are also generally more susceptible to flavour and trends, and just like the CS require a certain mindset to fly alot. I know plenty of ECM pilots for example (well, i am one of those myself) who simply do not enjoy the dynamics of ECM anymore, regardless of whatever percieved strength they have at the moment. If you are the kind of player who really enjoy refining and honing your skills at one task - becomming very good at your job, then these may be a good choice for you. I think it needs to be said though, ECM is a typical thing people complain about now and throw around from thread to thread - yet not everyone makes a good ECM pilot, enjoy the tricks of the trade - or the perks and punts that come with it.
Sarciss SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.12.22 03:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Yelan Zhou One might not forget the Interceptor. This tbf, a properly fit tackler. So many people run about with 'combat' set ups. I understand people want to have fun, but youd moan if i turned up to a fight in a Hurricane fitted with Miner II's..
Recon Three 181st Legion R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.12.22 03:11:00 - [12] Originally by: Warrio Edited by: Warrio on 21/12/2008 23:53:27 Originally by: Serena Mira'ht I have just returned and I'm trying to get a handle on what is happening in the game now as well as what sorts of pilots are needed in general? Is there a specific set of skills needed more than any other or a general shortage of anything? What Ships and Ship skills would make you the most desirable to a team? Eve is not WoW. Numbers are not capped, bring a ship and you'll be welcome. This. ___ Butthurt people are entertaining people.
Noisrevbus Caldari Breams Gone Wild	Posted - 2008.12.22 04:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Sarciss This tbf, a properly fit tackler. Or a properly fit Scout, Sniper, Support (Light, Heavy?) or... A specialized recon-gang fit for either intelligence, ambush or search-and-destroy... ... and the list goes on . If you wish to keep things simple (i could see my last post slowly turning out into just fancy words with few concrete examples to relate to). Somewhere down the line people need to understand that most of these things are part of policy, philosophy, organisation or lack thereof - and it differs wildly even among the best alliances in the game. Covops as a ship for rookie scouts? or just something for Fleet commanders and alts? I've seen alliances that hate Battlecruisers and alliances that love them. I have seen alliances that say, "you are either a Sniper BS or support - and support means you fly an Interceptor because we use Interceptors for everything from to scouting to tackle, anti-support and whatever we please with" and i have seen alliances that can outline each and every hull in the game and find a purpose for them, and then use that purpose when they organize fleets. You'd probably do better by asking within your corp or among your friends - what they prefer you in, if you aim to be a teamplayer. If you aim to join a corp or alliance, looking at what they prefer is usually a good move too. Not trying to be mean, sarcastic or point out obvious things here.
Xori Ruscuv Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.12.22 06:13:00 - [14] Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 22/12/2008 06:13:45 ECM always needed: falcon. Neuts always needed. DPS always needed: geddon. Falcons and geddons rule the world right now tbh.
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.12.22 08:48:00 - [15] Stealth Bombers!!!!! ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.12.22 10:06:00 - [16] anything t2 you have good skills to fly and t2 fit. . .barring Assault frigs and stealth bombers. . .those ships are useless. ---- ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense.
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.12.22 10:07:00 - [17] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky anything t2 you have good skills to fly and t2 fit. . .barring Assault frigs and stealth bombers. . .those ships are useless. Liiiiies! Stealth Bombers rock. :[ ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2008.12.22 10:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Neyro7830 Liiiiies! Stealth Bombers rock. :[ Enlighten me. How is it that they rock? In their current state, Stealth Bombers can't lay down sufficient support DPS (compared to their low hp), and they cannot be strike vessels meant to take out ships in a sniper role. So...what exactly do they rock at? Taking out stationary mining barges? Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.12.22 10:21:00 - [19] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Originally by: Neyro7830 Liiiiies! Stealth Bombers rock. :[ Enlighten me. How is it that they rock? In their current state, Stealth Bombers can't lay down sufficient support DPS (compared to their low hp), and they cannot be strike vessels meant to take out ships in a sniper role. So...what exactly do they rock at? Taking out stationary mining barges? They're nifty... >_> ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.12.22 11:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Originally by: Neyro7830 Liiiiies! Stealth Bombers rock. :[ Enlighten me. How is it that they rock? In their current state, Stealth Bombers can't lay down sufficient support DPS (compared to their low hp), and they cannot be strike vessels meant to take out ships in a sniper role. So...what exactly do they rock at? Taking out stationary mining barges? l2 laugh ---- ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense.
beor oranes Caldari Skill Level Six Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2008.12.22 11:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Originally by: Neyro7830 Liiiiies! Stealth Bombers rock. :[ Enlighten me. How is it that they rock? In their current state, Stealth Bombers can't lay down sufficient support DPS (compared to their low hp), and they cannot be strike vessels meant to take out ships in a sniper role. So...what exactly do they rock at? Taking out stationary mining barges? Popping pods...and stupid interceptor pilots. ------------------------------------------------ Either pick a dry year when fighting wars or civilize the moronic races and have no wars at all!

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