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Hczer	Posted - 2008.12.22 17:15:00 - [1] Alright I got a Golem I wanna pop and Im not sure whether a Scorpion with caldari jammers and torp launchers is enough to jam and pop it. Ive got the tacklers already. So.. is it enough?
Guerrica	Posted - 2008.12.22 17:20:00 - [2] I hate to help you, but I'm bored at work... Golems have the sensor strength of a Volkswagen. You'll have the golem jammed fairly easily so incoming dps will be limited to its drones, which are popped easily enough. If you're jumping a WT in empire try and find out what mission he's in. Fit torps for the damage types he's not tanked against and its all over but the crying. If this is some crazy pvp-golem, then all bets are off. As a side note, against a golem you are better off NOT using a buffer tank. It will likely be packing torps and your sig radius with a pile of extenders is about that of a small moon.
Hczer	Posted - 2008.12.22 17:32:00 - [3] Great thanks... here we go
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.12.22 18:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Guerrica I hate to help you, but I'm bored at work... Golems have the sensor strength of a Volkswagen. You'll have the golem jammed fairly easily so incoming dps will be limited to its drones, which are popped easily enough. If you're jumping a WT in empire try and find out what mission he's in. Fit torps for the damage types he's not tanked against and its all over but the crying. If this is some crazy pvp-golem, then all bets are off. As a side note, against a golem you are better off NOT using a buffer tank. It will likely be packing torps and your sig radius with a pile of extenders is about that of a small moon. dear sir or madam, i'm writing to complain in the strongest possible terms about this clear, succinct, and accurate advice you provided in the eve-o forums, with barely a hint of snark and no flames and sarcasm. yours etc, faife (esq) -- i am a humble and inefficient ammo to dps converter
Guerrica	Posted - 2008.12.22 18:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Guerrica I hate to help you, but I'm bored at work... Bolded the important part
Beowulf Scheafer	Posted - 2008.12.22 19:22:00 - [6] i doubt a scorp can put out enough dps to kill a golem, even while in a mission (unless its one of the top-end-ones), so you should consider to bring a friend with some decent firepower.
Polinus Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.12.22 19:25:00 - [7] He will very likely tank you easily if he has an omni tank (INVULS).
Kazami Kozura	Posted - 2008.12.22 20:39:00 - [8] fit neut and aim for weakest resi (em on a golem) nobody fits a golem with a passive tank and he cant aktive tank without cap... dont forget to kill the drones with your drones, or else your tackler will be meat (no mwd in a mission)
Rexthor Hammerfists Rage of Inferno Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.12.23 00:09:00 - [9] His cap and ecm are the weakness. one or two heavy neutralizer, with a heavy cap booster on you, will let his tank fail rather quick when hes running an xlarge tank. 5 Me ecm drones could jamm him often enough, tho with a scorp 3 caldari racials will permajamm him. Make sure to bring one or two webs so he cant get back to the gate. - Boosters and PirateProfessions
Commander Yassir The Seven Sins	Posted - 2008.12.23 01:54:00 - [10] Probably... However a nuet domi would help, A LOT. But response above me is true. The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
Ass Eels	Posted - 2008.12.23 11:37:00 - [11] To kill a Golem, take 1 sentinal and 1 kitsune and lol as he dies slowly but surely with no hope of escape.
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.12.23 15:54:00 - [12] to kill a golem you need: 1 scorpion 4 torp luanchers(em most likely) 2 heavy neuts 2 caldari ECm jammers T2 1 med shield booster 1 invu feilds 1 warp distruptor 1 web 1 cap booster 1 AB 3 BCUs 1 dcu 1 cpr 5 med drones...either ECM or damage. you pick. this should fit....havent tried it though. its deisgned to pick of a war target mission runner. Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Torhas the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Hczer Alright I got a Golem I wanna pop and Im not sure whether a Scorpion with caldari jammers and torp launchers is enough to jam and pop it. Ive got the tacklers already. So.. is it enough? D O M I N I X
BruisedMoon Amarr Power Seed Enterprises A.X.I.S	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:17:00 - [14] Dude, dont bring a scorp to fight a golem.. you will just regret loosing your scorp... Most likely a mission golem is fitted for long range, so if it does manage to get some shots off on you (it wont if your skills are good) then your going to get wrecked, if not.. its just going to tank you while it kills off your frig tacklers with drones and then warp off... Bring good DPS with you or your probally just gonna fail or be there all day!
Tuncan Minmatar Arbitrary Freedom	Posted - 2008.12.25 16:41:00 - [15] 2x ecm and u can kill it in a frig :p PEWPEWPEW phoonpawa
Cosmic Raider Solo Plex	Posted - 2008.12.26 12:11:00 - [16] I hope we can an after action report on this one.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2008.12.26 12:48:00 - [17] Originally by: BruisedMoon Dude, dont bring a scorp to fight a golem.. you will just regret loosing your scorp... Most likely a mission golem is fitted for long range, so if it does manage to get some shots off on you (it wont if your skills are good) then your going to get wrecked, if not.. its just going to tank you while it kills off your frig tacklers with drones and then warp off... Bring good DPS with you or your probally just gonna fail or be there all day! Wait, what? Everyone and their mother flies torpgolems, so no, no long range. And if he's neuted, his tank will fail really fast. It should be a walk in the park to kill a mission fitted Golem if you are fit to hit his weaknesses. Not to mention that he will have the mission DPS on him IN ADDITION to the Scorp. Go for it! Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.27 02:01:00 - [18] If i were in that Golem, you'd die horribly. First volley you think that were missiles launched before the jam. Second volley you'll think you've missed a jam cycle. Third volley and you'll realize that you are getting hit by FoF missiles and your tank is melting. You start to allign, but before that slow scorp enters warp, you're in a pod.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2008.12.27 18:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba If i were in that Golem, you'd die horribly. First volley you think that were missiles launched before the jam. Second volley you'll think you've missed a jam cycle. Third volley and you'll realize that you are getting hit by FoF missiles and your tank is melting. You start to allign, but before that slow scorp enters warp, you're in a pod. Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Steve Celeste	Posted - 2008.12.28 11:10:00 - [20] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba If i were in that Golem, you'd die horribly. First volley you think that were missiles launched before the jam. Second volley you'll think you've missed a jam cycle. Third volley and you'll realize that you are getting hit by FoF missiles and your tank is melting. You start to allign, but before that slow scorp enters warp, you're in a pod. WTB FoF torps No wait you fitted cruises on your Golem
Wingshard Orgasmotech	Posted - 2008.12.30 02:52:00 - [21] Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw to kill a golem you need: 3 BCUs 1 dcu 1 cpr i guess he ment 2bcus since scorpion only has 4 lowslots ^^. than again you could use ccc rigs instead of the cpr but jamming rigs would probably help more.
Dasalt Istgut	Posted - 2008.12.30 12:56:00 - [22] For loldueling golems try this: [Hyperion, I solo golems] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Damage Control II 100MN Afterburner I Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Ogre II x4 That'll permajam a non-ECCM golem while punching out 1300 dps. Neuts would be nice but a golem won't survive this anyway (and won't be able to shoot back).
Hczer	Posted - 2008.12.31 03:57:00 - [23] The Golem never came anyways...
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising	Posted - 2008.12.31 11:46:00 - [24] ffs guys i just got that golem, think of the consequences before giving such advice in future, i have to go back to mining now.
Harrent Caldari The Leathernecks	Posted - 2008.12.31 13:46:00 - [25] Originally by: Mitch Taylor ffs guys i just got that golem, think of the consequences before giving such advice in future, i have to go back to mining now. I'm sure that they have thought of the consequences and are now laughing hysterically. O.o. Sorry for your loss =----------= Semper Fi
Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.31 17:34:00 - [26] a Golem is a bad beast to take down. ECM is probably not the way to go, FoF may be equipped (less damage, but still lot of it) and Neut...well, It may be a way. Taking out a golem on 1-on-1 against a battlehsip would probably require you to overrun him in either tank or DPS, both cases you better bring someone with remote repairers. Happily enough, people with more isk than brain still exist, and you can pretty much assume that a golem has the resistances needed for the mission, and only took normal cruise of the required damage type. in that case, Scorpion + Dominix are pretty much the best pair to take it out, Since the scorpion can be plate-tanked and have a nice rack of ecms or ewar, like point,web,painter and 4-5 ECMs. the dominix can be pretty well just be taken as a logistic ship, Remote repairers, Energy Transfers, ECM drones and ogres (just in case the dude is stupid enough to get flagged to the dominix too) and even remote repair drones. ----------------------------------------- Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.

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