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Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.23 00:14:00 - [31] This just in, CCP is outsourcing all petitions to India as part of new cost-cutting procedures. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Jinx Barker Caldari GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.12.23 00:27:00 - [32] Originally by: Vaal Erit This just in, CCP is outsourcing all petitions to India as part of new cost-cutting procedures. I am sorry, I thought they already outsourced to India, since the responses to the petitions come as if the GMs do not understand any English at all. ::::Click The Signature For the Blog::::
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.12.23 00:35:00 - [33] I would not recommend any hasty reactions before the full force of the economic crisis has hit Europe. In the next 1-2 years, anything can happen ... How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Grave Tidings	Posted - 2008.12.23 00:38:00 - [34] No no no... they should up here to Colorado. Lots of mountains, breweries, and currently 18 degrees farenheit. Goat farms, sheep ranches, and an entire community of left wing radicals over there in Boulder. It would be just like home for them.
Necrosmith Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.12.23 00:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Karlemgne Great. I hope they move to Los Angeles, and I hope they bring the server cluster with them. That would make me happy beyond words. :) -K You mean so we can enjoy downtime in the middle of prime time? ---- For those of you who claim to support the troops and oppose national health care, I have a question. Why do you insist on punishing our veterans with free health care?
codex09 Minmatar Entropy Systems Mining Co.	Posted - 2008.12.23 00:49:00 - [36] Edited by: codex09 on 23/12/2008 00:51:28 Originally by: Karlemgne Great. I hope they move to Los Angeles, and I hope they bring the server cluster with them. That would make me happy beyond words. :) -K The chances they will ever move the cluster from the datacenter it is currently in are very slim I would guess no matter where in the world they moved the HQ to. In fact even though it would be nice if the cluster was moved closer to Australia, where it currently is gets reasonable pings for most people all over the world I would guess so don't move what isn't broken. Anyway if CCP needs to relocate to keep the games they are developing alive then so be it, I would personally rather they moved than folded if it came to that cause it would be a shame to lose EVE & that other game CCP are making. (whats the story with that other game?) As for DT in the middle of prime time, us Aussie's have had this happening to us since I don't know when & it isn't as bad as you think. (CCP should give the US PT a go at having DT for a while) Use Your Fears To Conquer Your Enemies!?!
Fraszoid Caldari Condottieri Industries	Posted - 2008.12.23 01:12:00 - [37] If they have to move, Gimli, Manitoba, Canada is the place to go. Its on a big lake, flat and nice weather, and its predominantly Icelandic Canadians too. Its a nice place to live, and do business. -------------------------------------------------- Everyone is born right handed, only the great over come it.
Cruentiorus Defenders of the Plain of Aleion	Posted - 2008.12.23 01:26:00 - [38] This a possible set-up for us accepting that they eventually move their offices to Atari Corporate? Maybe the tin-foil crowd was right after all...
JeanPierre Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.12.23 01:28:00 - [39] Originally by: Antarious Kronar Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Antarious Kronar I'm American but I think CCP needs to stay in Europe. Our courts here are completely f**ed up and there will be someone that would file a lawsuit demanding the game to be dumbed down so the idiots can play too. Nah... Everyone thinks* lawsuits are like falling out of bed in the US but it just ain't so. No lawyer will touch the case on a contingency fee basis without some notion that there is a very large payday at the end of it and a very good chance at winning. Without a contingency fee a lawyer would demand money up front. What gamer is going to shell out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to stop gate camping (or whatever)? In short, very very unlikely to happen. Let's see... A woman pulls up to McDonald's and buys a coffee, placing it between her legs. Drives off, hits a bump and burns the hell out of her <explicit>. She goes to court and wins because she and her lawyer are idiots. A man uses a ladder on ice and falls and get's hurt, while the ladder has warnings on it that clearly states not to use it on ice. He wins the lawsuit because he and his lawyer are idiots. All it would take is a class action lawsuit. The McDonald's case was actually justified. The problem is that the media didn't report the whole story. The woman was in her 70's and when the coffee spilled on her she was wearing some kind of sweats ensemble. At 180 degrees it spread like wildfire. She was reported by the emergency room as suffering 2nd and 3rd degree burns on over 75% of her entire body. She had a very good case in that instance. Don't get me wrong, I hate lawyers and most legalist type crap. But the mis-reporting in that one case made it seem like she was just some dumb bumbble dork, and she wasn't, she was honestly hurt beyond pain you yourself would tolerate I'd wager. ------------------------------ Ever notice that people who spend money on beer, cigarettes, and lottery tickets are always complaining about being broke and not feeling well?
Dr Slaughter Minmatar Rabies Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.23 01:45:00 - [40] Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 23/12/2008 01:51:04 Surely they don't need to actually move to be an attractive investment. Create a corporate shell elsewhere put the new IP & investment in the shell, have it pay CCP Iceland to do the development work and operate the games for the new co. Ideally incorporate the shell somewhere tax efficent for both CCP and the investors point of view... I doubt they're wanting to IPO or conduct a reverse merger. Places like Isle of Man are looking for e-gaming businesses and are small enough to cut companies and their investors 'special' deals. TBH I would imagine they would be over the moon to land CCP's new business. ~~~~ There is no parody in this thread. Honest.
Bloody Rabbit Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Antarious Kronar I'm American but I think CCP needs to stay in Europe. Our courts here are completely f**ed up and there will be someone that would file a lawsuit demanding the game to be dumbed down so the idiots can play too. Nah... Everyone thinks* lawsuits are like falling out of bed in the US but it just ain't so. No lawyer will touch the case on a contingency fee basis without some notion that there is a very large payday at the end of it and a very good chance at winning. Without a contingency fee a lawyer would demand money up front. What gamer is going to shell out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to stop gate camping (or whatever)? In short, very very unlikely to happen. Don't forget the 10-15 thousand that the client or lawyer would need to pony up for the court costs before the whole thing starts. But that is just the opening bill, after a week that would be spent and more would be billed. I don't remember a single case that my family handled that didn't factor in 100 thousand for court costs up front.
Bloody Rabbit Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:15:00 - [42] Originally by: Dal Thrax Originally by: Antarious Kronar Let's see... A woman pulls up to McDonald's and buys a coffee, placing it between her legs. Drives off, hits a bump and burns the hell out of her <explicit>. She goes to court and wins because she and her lawyer are idiots. A man uses a ladder on ice and falls and get's hurt, while the ladder has warnings on it that clearly states not to use it on ice. He wins the lawsuit because he and his lawyer are idiots. All it would take is a class action lawsuit. Well actually McDonalds spent a good deal of time and effort engineering how to keep their coffee in a liquid state well past the boiling point of water. The McDonalds coffee lawsuits where about people that got scalded by superhot water. Basically the courts said that if you spill regular coffee on yourself you're SOL. If somebody gives you special superhot coffee that is only being kept from converting to steam by some serious engineering then the person who gave you the coffee could be liable. (Seriously, the McDonalds coffee problem is used in advanced math and engineering textbooks to remind folks that just because the equations say that the maximum benefit will be reached at a certain point, that doesn't mean there isn't a real life reason you shouldn't do it). In business school I was forced to study that case for weeks. There is more than just it was hot coffee, there are McD management that wanted to warn of it being too hot, there was the fact that the cup which held the coffee wasn't designed for the temperature of the coffee. There were many, many inside memos passed that they should have lowered the temperature or put warnings on the cup but they are passed off as too expensive, or too much of a problem about nothing. So please before shooting off about that case try to understand there was a real reason why it when to court and there was a real reason why the women got paid. Here is a written account: McD Coffee Case
Jake Silence	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:24:00 - [43] If CCP moves to a US city, it should be Portland, Or. Portland has the most breweries per capita in the US (also the most strip clubs per capita). Oregon has mountains, forests, deserts, rivers and lakes, and is bordered by the Pacific Ocean. Hell, if you like active volcanoes, there is one right across the border in Washington state. Abundant water, abundant hydropower, abundant beer, abundant strippers (not necessarily in that order) are all excellent reasons for a change of venue to Portland, should they want to move. That, and only an hour and a half drive for me to get to Fanfest would be nice
Khemul Zula Amarr Black Plague. Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:28:00 - [44] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 23/12/2008 02:28:36 Originally by: Jake Silence If CCP moves to a US city, it should be Portland, Or. Portland has the most breweries per capita in the US (also the most strip clubs per capita). Oregon has mountains, forests, deserts, rivers and lakes, and is bordered by the Pacific Ocean. Hell, if you like active volcanoes, there is one right across the border in Washington state. Abundant water, abundant hydropower, abundant beer, abundant strippers (not necessarily in that order) are all excellent reasons for a change of venue to Portland, should they want to move. That, and only an hour and a half drive for me to get to Fanfest would be nice Strangely enough, that is the entire official tourism video word for word. ------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:29:00 - [45] I hope CCP moves either to the Portland area (this is where OSSDN is as well as Linus Torvalds) or to the Denver area. Either way, it will facilitate my stalking which is hampered at this point by the great distance between myself and the primary CCP offices in Iceland.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:34:00 - [46] Originally by: Farrellus Cameron Does CCP own that property? That would suck trying to sell it in that market. How crazy is it that auto sales are down 93%?! you for real?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:36:00 - [47] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Imperator Jora'h I thought at FanFest Hilmar (or one of them) said Iceland's economic woes did not particularly affect them. Also as noted above CCP has offices in the US and China. I am not up on all the intricacies of international investment but I would think CCP would have ample opportunity for it regardless if their HQ is in Iceland or Tahiti. Didn't you read the whole article? It only affects them if they want to pull in investors for a new game. Their current operation is fine. I read the whole article, seems more like they mean in general mate. I mean sure eve is great, but we all know they want to expand on eve into more games within eve online. They need invsetors for plantary combat, and stuff like releasing the boxed version of eve online. IN general I read the line "let some capital in" as LET SOME CAPITAL IN. and I for one think eve online could use that money as well.
Goodking Zoel	Posted - 2008.12.23 02:49:00 - [48] Pretty sure they've already thought about the beer angle from getgo as this place is located within a convenient twenty minutes (one hour in traffic) of the Atlanta office. The only problem is that it's in Atlanta. Wouldn't wish that on anyone. :p
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2008.12.23 03:03:00 - [49] That would suck, but if you do decide to go, come to Seattle. :) Caldari Nationalist Party
Ephemeron Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.12.23 03:10:00 - [50] How can politicians even think of taxing virtual game economy. That virtual economy belongs to another nation, where the country's laws do not apply in any way whatsoever. What goes on in that virtual economy is completely out of their jurisdiction If they want to tax it, first they gotta try get elected as representatives of that virtual world. Or they can try invade it and build a super empire and then task people for living in their space (like BoB)
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.12.23 03:13:00 - [51] Yay for derail. Although you have to love the first post who mentioned McDonalds - seriously are there still people who think its ok to sell coffee so hot that spilling it sends people to the ER? Isnt it an example of why its good that we can sure people? If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Neesa Corrinne Rogue Shadow Squad Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.12.23 04:08:00 - [52] Given CCP's cozy new accommodations with White Wolf, one of the best bets of places to move would be Atlanta Georgia... which I fully support being a native of the ATL myself. I might even have to apply! ---------------------------------
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.12.23 04:16:00 - [53] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin That would suck, but if you do decide to go, come to Seattle. :) yeah! that's 2 votes for Seattle!
Kessiaan Minmatar Army of One	Posted - 2008.12.23 04:20:00 - [54] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Karlemgne Great. I hope they move to Los Angeles, and I hope they bring the server cluster with them. That would make me happy beyond words. :) -K The cluster is still in London Also, CCP should move to Copenhagen. It's not all that different from Reykjavik, only more awesome. I'd rather they stay where they are, simply because Iceland = Vikings = Badass ... but if they have to leave, I'd understand, though I'd be amazed if the government of such a small country forces an international company (albeit a small one, but again, small country) like CCP to just walk away. ... besides, I've said all I'm going to say. You're reading my sig now! Bwa! -
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy	Posted - 2008.12.23 04:21:00 - [55] They are moving the server farm to my basement, send me isk and I will reinforce your node \o/ Fallout thinks im cute! I think so anyway
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.12.23 04:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Kessiaan Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Karlemgne Great. I hope they move to Los Angeles, and I hope they bring the server cluster with them. That would make me happy beyond words. :) -K The cluster is still in London Also, CCP should move to Copenhagen. It's not all that different from Reykjavik, only more awesome. I'd rather they stay where they are, simply because Iceland = Vikings = Badass ... but if they have to leave, I'd understand, though I'd be amazed if the government of such a small country forces an international company (albeit a small one, but again, small country) like CCP to just walk away. well we all know they would move back if they had the chance... or amybe that would be like moving back into your moms home.. no it's thier homeland they wouldn't want to stay away forever.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.23 06:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Everyone thinks lawsuits are like falling out of bed in the US but it just ain't so. No lawyer will touch the case on a contingency fee basis without some notion that there is a very large payday at the end of it and a very good chance at winning. Without a contingency fee a lawyer would demand money up front. What gamer is going to shell out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to stop gate camping (or whatever)? In short, very very unlikely to happen. These are Americans you're talking about. There are no doubt thousands who would think nothing of spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars on the basis that they feel they have a good case, regardless of what a lawyer says. The problem with the courts is that they do sometimes have a tendency to pity these poor misguided souls and give them what they ask for. The same culture has been invading the UK for years now and doctors for example, will not treat a person who may be dying by the side of a road in case they are sued for malpractice. No more "is there a doctor in the house" because nobody will answer even if it's at a medical convention. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again
Kessiaan Minmatar Army of One	Posted - 2008.12.23 10:32:00 - [58] Edited by: Kessiaan on 23/12/2008 10:32:59 After reading the entire article, I'm a bit mystified as to why the government would hamstring CCP - it seems that in a country experiencing severe inflation / devaluation of its native currency, a source of more stable foreign currency would be something that would you'd want to have around. As for where to go - midwestern USA is a great place to plot world domination. Pay off the local farmers to look the other way, lots of space, nobody will bother you. ... besides, I've said all I'm going to say. You're reading my sig now! Bwa! -
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.12.23 10:37:00 - [59] Originally by: Kessiaan I'd rather they stay where they are, simply because Iceland = Vikings = Badass ... but if they have to leave, I'd understand, though I'd be amazed if the government of such a small country forces an international company (albeit a small one, but again, small country) like CCP to just walk away. Are you saying Danish people aren't Vikings?
Lucy'Lastic	Posted - 2008.12.23 10:38:00 - [60] They should move somewhere that has rules against falsely advertising an MMO with claims that it can support PvP engagements of over 200 players.

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