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Mammouth Ecraselesprix	Posted - 2008.12.23 11:33:00 - [1] Hi everyone, So from what I know, only pirates which are gate bombing are in rancer ??? Anyone else doing it ?
Adeptus mecanicus The Flaming Sideburn's Sons-Of-Anarchy	Posted - 2008.12.23 11:50:00 - [2] nah. Grunt's Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
Mickey Simon Noir.	Posted - 2008.12.23 11:51:00 - [3] Rancer's most famous for it because it happens there regularly, but no doubt it happens in other areas of losec too. Meanwhile, on the other side of town . . .
Buhhdust Princess Lyonesse.	Posted - 2008.12.23 12:05:00 - [4] lol actually. I haven't ever been to a place where it happens other than rancer ________________________________________
Tuberider Caldari Pothouse Cartel IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.12.23 12:10:00 - [5] oh it does, but like peeps wanna ruin the surprise Your mother is a hampster and your father smells of elderberries
Mickey Simon Noir.	Posted - 2008.12.23 12:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Buhhdust Princess lol actually. I haven't ever been to a place where it happens other than rancer Now you mention it, neither have I although I can't see people not doing it in another system if they wanted to. Meanwhile, on the other side of town . . .
Jalif Black Sinisters	Posted - 2008.12.23 12:51:00 - [7] Whats the fun in smartbombing :(? CEO of Black Sinisters
Caztor Pollux Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.12.23 13:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Jalif Whats the fun in smartbombing :(? The bit where it goes BOOOOOOOM!!! Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Kikki Di'je Lay Low	Posted - 2008.12.23 13:57:00 - [9] Originally by: Jalif Whats the fun in smartbombing :(? Nothing is more hilarious then seeing a pod shoot out of no where, because you just smartbombed his cloaked covops holding BS bpo's or capital bpo's which he leaves for you. Also, when your drunk, and you get convo'd with people who are like "lol one minute I was in warp, the next, I'm in station, wtf how did you do that" It's really hard not spilling your beer when you smartbomb friggies
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups	Posted - 2008.12.23 14:21:00 - [10] Edited by: Le Skunk on 23/12/2008 14:21:47 Originally by: Jalif Whats the fun in smartbombing :(? Popping those annoying inty pilots who buzz around low sec thinking they are invinciple Timing the distance from gate to gate, and firing at just the right time to pop a cloaked cov ops Acting in bombaconcert with other pilots and insta popping cruisers Podding the ceo of a 6 MOM hotdropping corp a few days later whilst hes flying round in his inty Hitting the big 0.0 elite alliances in their achiles heel as they roll through low sec happy as larry Hitting a shuttle and the triangle shows as full Cans popping out of cov ops ships and the rush down to see what ya got The blue of a blueprint, and the joy/pain when it turns out to be a copy The first time you pop 4 frigates in one go That slight pause whilst the enemys pod is sat there going WTF , and its slight picking up of speed before you pod him indicating hes just got his act together and tried to warp out. Having a incoming gang scouted, yet still sitting on the gate waiting on your own to try to take out their intys and warp off before the hacs and BS land STABS on COMBAT SHIPS!!! The joy of warping off when an enraged ceo and his team have spent two hours setting up a trap - yet brought no hic. Being able to solo pirate, with just a scout With a standard gate camp - the satisfaction of approaching the ideal of total shut down on a system Sisters scan probe launchers from Isk farmers in noob ships with silly name (dunno why they always drop these) Warping to the gate at 100km in stead of 10 because youve killed the inty pilot before and you think hes gonna come in at 100km to check the gate out... and he does.. and you pod him AGAIN! oh and ** tons of loot - much more profitable then any other pirating Think thats about sums it up :) SKUNK Originally by:** CCP Navigator People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
Bai ZongTong Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.12.23 14:24:00 - [11] I dumb bomb. --- Bai ZongTong, responsible for all the lossmails in my corp.
Kaya Valda Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.12.23 14:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Jalif Whats the fun in smartbombing :(? It's surprising how often people carry millions or even billions of ISK worth of BP or Implants through lowsec in a shuttle/noobship/frigate. - Neo-Spartans Recruiting
Alowishus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.12.23 15:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Jalif Whats the fun in smartbombing :(? It's mostly about the profit. But it's also fun for many reasons outlined above. Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus nah. Any gate camping corp that doesn't use bombers on a regular basis is ******ed and are probably the people always complaining that you don't make ISK pirating.
Ralarina Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.12.23 15:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Le Skunk stuff Skunk, can you comment on this setup pls? [Rokh, Smartbomb] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Warp Core Stabilizer I Warp Core Stabilizer I Warp Core Stabilizer I Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge Large YF-12a Smartbomb Large Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I neuts in case a ceptor or two decides to have some fun. 3x wcs for an emergency. Scouts on each gate ofc. Is there a better caldari or gallente bs that can do this? -- Ralara's Alt (due to Forum ban)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups	Posted - 2008.12.23 15:48:00 - [15] Edited by: Le Skunk on 23/12/2008 15:53:25 Edited by: Le Skunk on 23/12/2008 15:53:02 Originally by: Ralarina Originally by: Le Skunk stuff Skunk, can you comment on this setup pls? I cant really comment so much as ive never used a rokh mainly because i couldnt fly one when i started smartbombing and I havent lost my Hyperion for 8 months odd now. Ive been told by other bombers the rokh does well as it can tank the sentrys better, but it means you cant fit an istab or two for quick turning as you can on a mega. Things I would say though: 1)You will also need a cap booster rather then a cap recharger imho. 2)Ditch the neuts you need 8 bombs - scouts should warn you of anything nasty. 3)Fit ecm drones if you can 4)MWD for when you get caught off the gate by something small and need to leg it back to jump though to escape. 5)I found the best success with bomb choice is f1,f2,f3 being Large Vehemence Bombs (em damage) and f4,f5,f6,f7,f8 being Large Notos Bombs (explosive) The theory being you roll your fingers down f1 to f8 hitting shield with em and armor and hull with explosive for the lowest resists on your target. Doods that fit all thermal dont seem to have as much success as they are fighting mediocre resists at all time. It does mean though that you can just set up a macro on your keyboard to bang out f1-f8 without any bother. I prefer the control of doing it manualy. The bomb setup i use can be altered "on the fly". If you get warning that a ship with only 300 shield is coming for example - you would swap the position of the second two vehemence bombs (in position f2 and f3) to position f7 and f8 (when the enemy will be in hull anyway and hence have no resists. Fully insure your ship - set up some safes to warp in from (in line with entry gate ofc) - stick up a scout- turn on your tactical overlay - give it a go. Bring a friend with you and the bombs you miss he will hit and vice versa (dont kill each other though lol) Takes some practice but those are the basics. With practice youll kill maybe 60% of frigs and below. bombs SKUNK Originally by: CCP Navigator People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.12.23 16:05:00 - [16] Low Sec smartbombing is a hilarious thing tbh. Anyone willing to risk their cap ship in the age of Hictors to kill a load of frigates, shuttles, pods, and newb ships gets a thumbs up for grief lulz. Personally I've never encountered a smartbomb camp despite flying to a couple of systems that were lighting up the map specifically because I wanted to see it for myself. Ah well.
Ralarina Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.12.23 16:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Le Skunk 1)You will also need a cap booster rather then a cap recharger imho. I was looking at that, but just permarunning that (without the bombs active) keeps the cap at about 50% stable according to EFT. Hmm, that said though, activating 8 bombs might drain it completely anyway. Cap booster it is :D Quote: 2)Ditch the neuts you need 8 bombs - scouts should warn you of anything nasty. Okey dokey. Quote: 3)Fit ecm drones if you can I did think about that but wont they just get popped by the sentries? Meh, some drones is better than no drones... Quote: 4)MWD for when you get caught off the gate by something small and need to leg it back to jump though to escape. but surely I'm sitting only 5km from the gate anyway... wont an AB do? Besides, they may have a scram :D Quote: 5)I found the best success with bomb choice is f1,f2,f3 being Large Vehemence Bombs (em damage) and f4,f5,f6,f7,f8 being Large Notos Bombs (explosive) You are wise. Quote: Fully insure your ship - set up some safes to warp in from (in line with entry gate ofc) - stick up a scout- turn on your tactical overlay - give it a go. Bring a friend with you and the bombs you miss he will hit and vice versa (dont kill each other though lol) How far do you sit off the gate, when doing this? 5km is the minimum I think for smartbombs? Quote: When you score some isk, update your bombs to bigger range. Only buy better bombs out of bombed loot. When your ship goes up in smoke - you aint lost out. MY SMARTBOMBING RAVEN WAS FITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING: 8 x CHELMS MODIFIED... Quote: Takes some practice but those are the basics. With practice youll kill maybe 60% of frigs and below who dont bother to protect themselves (warp in from different angle/tank against me) bombs Quote: SKUNK ty :D -- Ralara's Alt (due to Forum ban)
Ralarina Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.12.23 16:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Low Sec smartbombing is a hilarious thing tbh. Anyone willing to risk their cap ship in the age of Hictors to kill a load of frigates, shuttles, pods, and newb ships gets a thumbs up for grief lulz. dude, you use a bs, not a cap ship :p Quote: Personally I've never encountered a smartbomb camp despite flying to a couple of systems that were lighting up the map specifically because I wanted to see it for myself. Ah well. I've encountered it once, in a faction fitted inty.... in rancer no less. I really didn't notice the system name else I'd have been a LOT more careful ;-) -- Ralara's Alt (due to Forum ban)
Alowishus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.12.23 17:23:00 - [19] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Low Sec smartbombing is a hilarious thing tbh. Anyone willing to risk their cap ship in the age of Hictors to kill a load of frigates, shuttles, pods, and newb ships gets a thumbs up for grief lulz. I hope nobody is camping gates in lowsec in cap ships anymore.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.12.23 17:44:00 - [20] Originally by: Alowishus I hope nobody is camping gates in lowsec in cap ships anymore. I hear that the Crilere Gate in Rancer has been abandoned for months. C/D? We're Recruiting!
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:07:00 - [21] Originally by: Ralarina Quote: 3)Fit ecm drones if you can I did think about that but wont they just get popped by the sentries? Meh, some drones is better than no drones... Quote: 4)MWD for when you get caught off the gate by something small and need to leg it back to jump though to escape. but surely I'm sitting only 5km from the gate anyway... wont an AB do? Besides, they may have a scram :D 5) MY SMARTBOMBING RAVEN WAS FITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING: 8 x CHELMS MODIFIED... 1) Ecm drones are for legging it if you ever do get tackled by a hic. Of course ever self respecting pilot has 8 falcon alts around the gate at all times so this shouldnt be a problem :) 2) Yeah afterburner would do it now webs aint so good. The boost from a mwd should carry you to the gate though if you get it off pre webbing 3) You have to be like half a km from the top range of your bombs whatever they are. If your warping in and not just sitting on the gate you want to warp in about 4 km higher then your bomb range as you drift and the warp in is not always exact. 4) Lol - maybe not officer smarties :)Unless of course youve made a lot from some ferrogel exploit. Good luck! SKUNK Originally by: CCP Navigator People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
Mickey Simon Noir.	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn I hear that the Crilere Gate in Rancer has been abandoned for months. C/D? C. Rancer has been dead for quite a while. Looks like the pirates got bored and moved onto 0.0 where the real PvP is. Meanwhile, on the other side of town . . .
Torhas the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:31:00 - [23] Where is Rancer again ?
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.12.23 19:05:00 - [24] Edited by: RedSplat on 23/12/2008 19:06:48 There are no pirates in Rancer. Also, i'll keep an eye out for le Skunk next time i am running multiple Phantasm Bpc's through rancer; What it saves me several jumps EDIT: I usually fly an AB Jag with lowest resists in the 70's and those lovely Minny T2 resists, is that bombable before i warp? There was even talk of French toast But there was none to be had
Ralarina Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.12.23 19:27:00 - [25] Originally by: RedSplat Edited by: RedSplat on 23/12/2008 19:06:48 There are no pirates in Rancer. Also, i'll keep an eye out for le Skunk next time i am running multiple Phantasm Bpc's through rancer; What it saves me several jumps EDIT: I usually fly an AB Jag with lowest resists in the 70's and those lovely Minny T2 resists, is that bombable before i warp? it's as you land, not as you warp :) you actually die whilst still in warp (in theory) and there's fk all you can do about it -- Ralara's Alt (due to Forum ban)
hedfunk Caldari Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups	Posted - 2008.12.23 19:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Ralarina Originally by: RedSplat Edited by: RedSplat on 23/12/2008 19:06:48 There are no pirates in Rancer. Also, i'll keep an eye out for le Skunk next time i am running multiple Phantasm Bpc's through rancer; What it saves me several jumps EDIT: I usually fly an AB Jag with lowest resists in the 70's and those lovely Minny T2 resists, is that bombable before i warp? it's as you land, not as you warp :) you actually die whilst still in warp (in theory) and there's fk all you can do about it You can never avoid skunk. He paid CCP in blowjobs to make it so he doesn't appear in local....just when you think it's safe BANG! He's popped your inty hauling 3bn worth of BP's. He's a nasty bastard. Socialist revolutinaries with guns = bad Iraqis with guns = Insurgent Terrorists Americans with guns = Patriots
Jalif Black Sinisters	Posted - 2008.12.23 19:42:00 - [27] /me looks trough hanger for potential smartbomber. CEO of Black Sinisters
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:03:00 - [28] Originally by: hedfunk stuff OMG hes resurfaced. Shouldn't you be whoring that 1/10 in your frigate? SKUNK Originally by: CCP Navigator People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order
Sally Skullsplitter	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:57:00 - [29] Edited by: Sally Skullsplitter on 23/12/2008 20:57:48 My rokh bomber used to be.. 8 faction bombs (around 50mill each), em on first keys. Don't stack the modules as you need to let them off in sequence to reduce chance of missing. mid slots, light 3-4 slot tank and remote sensor boosters for your tackler. low slots, all stabs... though with hic's you aint so safe anymore. rigs, all cap, or resists.. never really had cap problems as part of large gang and sentrys don't hit ya much.. even in a really busy system. i killed probably approaching 10,000 people with that setup in rancer, and could even 1 volley t1 haulers on WTZ... never got caught once as the stabs stop that. (no point hanging around if jumped as you do have any ranged weapons)
Ralarina Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.12.24 01:01:00 - [30] Well, I spent 3 hours doing it today. I am impressed. There was a bit of nice loot (sisters recon probe launcher died unfortunately) but got some tech 2 / faction ammo and a few tech 2 items. Do want. and thanks to Le Skunk for the help here and in our convo; much appreciated :)) -- Ralara's Alt (due to Forum ban)

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