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Omkor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:53:00 -
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Hi
Im upping my standing with Caldary Navy atm. I got the mission named in the topic and experienced heavy problems with the
target jamming cruisers.
I dont want to train for FoF Missiles just for that purpose cause i actually plan to skill towards gallente drone boats
Now i have a few questions, but first of all heres what i tried and the results
-Normal try with a drake : No chance, permajammed for about 15 minutes, shields down, have to warp out
-Trying to snipe the jamming ship before it targets me: Not enough dps for that, 2 jamming ships
-Trying with small drones: Not enough damage to break shield, (all related drone skills on 2-4, interfacing on 3)
-Pulling out a raven with medium drones: not enough dps
-Sniping with a raven and xx target painters: doesnt work
-Also tried to get out of range of the jammers: 100km still jammed, max missile range around 65k
Now my questions
1.) WTF ?
2.) How am i suppost to comlete this mission ? Is jamming always this annoing when facing guistas
3.) How do you finish your lvl4 guistas missions ? What do you do when you have no FoFs ? (missions/ratting)
4.) What are non drone boats non missile ships for example most amarr ships supposed to do ? (missions/ratting)
5.) Should i (in the future better go for sansha/blood rather than guista ratting
6.) why is such a frustrating feature implented in the game/not patched out till now ? There are so many people complaining about it . For Teamplay ? (tzzzzzzzz) to force people into multi accounts
7.) how can i set my drones to defend my own ship like a fleet members ship (attacking targets that attack me)
8.) How can i create a fleet
9.) Work Droneboats for the harder lvl4s ? the input i have about them right now is to be rather .... weak
wui post got long  |

Endear
And Beyond ... The Phoenix Regime
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:26:00 -
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I use 2x Gravimetric Backup Array II for that mission, replacing my BCUs on my drake. Works fine, you still get jammed but you have lot's more time in between jams to kill the 2 jammers.... |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:32:00 -
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IIRC you can finish the mission before the jamming ships spawn if you kill the correct ones that are already there. |

Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:46:00 -
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Drones are best, but a Drake won't do that. If you plan on using a missile boat against Guristas you have to train FoF. |

Vaecg
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:02:00 -
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Endear wrote:I use 2x Gravimetric Backup Array II for that mission, replacing my BCUs on my drake. Works fine, you still get jammed but you have lot's more time in between jams to kill the 2 jammers....
The anti jam worked .... sometimes, but i just found out that i dont do enough dps with my drake to kill the NPC HACs

ill just leave the mission as it is in a month i got a decent skilled domi 
Buuut some questions are still up !! |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:19:00 -
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Vaecg wrote:eve-survival FTW
message to take home kids |

Endear
And Beyond ... The Phoenix Regime
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Posted - 2012.04.13 17:46:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Drones are best, but a Drake won't do that. If you plan on using a missile boat against Guristas you have to train FoF.
Not true, I don't even have FoF missiles trained and I have done pretty much every Guristas mission by now I am sure (9.96 Caldari Navy) |

Hazen Koraka
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:41:00 -
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I had a lot of trouble on this one too, and back when I was running level 3s, it was my first level 3 that I accepted :P Harsh!
Anyway, I can run this in a drake with minor problems. All I had to do was fit an eccm omni I, and it gave me enough time to be able to kill the jammers. Also helps if you don't create more work by creating respawns if you kill too many of the same ship from the same group.
Good luck! |

Fairhand
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:42:00 -
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8. How do I create a fleet?
Click the Fleet button on the Neocom (under Social unless you dragged it to the main bar). You will then get the Fleet chat window and the Fleet Member window. The little three bars in the corner of the Fleet Member window will allow you to Form A Fleet with yourself. This means you can now Tag ships providing you are showing that column in your Overview. |

Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
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Posted - 2012.04.17 17:07:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Drones are best, but a Drake won't do that. If you plan on using a missile boat against Guristas you have to train FoF.
False.
For now, fit grav mods to boost your gravimetric sensor strength.
Later, your skills will be high enough that you can 1-2 volley any jammer cruisers that aren't tech 2 variants. Eventually your drone + missile skills will be decent enough to take down the T2 variants in a reasonable amount of time. |

serras bang
Lucien Coven
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:58:00 -
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one way ive found of doing it i think ts third wave instantly target the specalists and pop one as soon as possible useing all possible missiles and drones then do the same for the other as you get target. with a decent tank you will be able to out tank most of the dmg its just getting jammed for 15 mins solid is a pain. |

Imortal valkyrie
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.04.19 11:37:00 -
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Tengu, nuff said. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.04.19 12:31:00 -
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The key during the 2nd Wave is to kill those 2 Rooks, or whatever Recons they are, before eliminating the Caracals.
Or, if you just wanna hurry and not loot wrecks....kill the initial Blackbirds only (not the Moa), then destroy the Structure and turn in Mission. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
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