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Tearless Trel	Posted - 2008.12.25 01:39:00 - [1] In the early days of EVE, I mined. From then to now (with copious giant breaks in between subscription periods) I have missioned and traded. Soloing, I find that none of these really make me enough money to be 'happy' with myself. I have not done too many L4 missions, so that is uncharted territory, but still... So, do people make giant amounts of ISK PVPing? Greater risk = greater reward? Or is it the hallowed corp/alliance that leads to the big bucks? [This time around I am finally going to get into PVP/corps, regardless of whether any of my WoW-addicted friends are playing.]
Ambien Torca	Posted - 2008.12.25 01:42:00 - [2] Edited by: Ambien Torca on 25/12/2008 01:43:14 Moon mining, industry, plexes. Trading/market manipulation can also be lucrative, it just takes lots of time and capital. PVP is generally isk sink unless you know what you¦re doing and don¦t looks for fights but kills. Standard T2 loot just gets you free fittings for new ships, you can get rich if someone is silly enough to have some faction goodies in their pvp ship you can grab.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.25 01:43:00 - [3] Scamming. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Arvald Caldari Ninjas N Pirates	Posted - 2008.12.25 01:46:00 - [4] scamming
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.12.25 01:54:00 - [5] Thirding Scamming. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Illiya Thirding Scamming. I sold a Cadari Navy Ibis for 10 mil, and a ibis named Cadari Navy Hookbil for 12 mil. Yes I know, it's Caldari Navy Hookbill, but the set name ship option doesn't provide enough spaces to change it to the full name. I love Jita.
Illiya Caldari GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:16:00 - [7] 10m is nothing. There are titans funded completely by scammed assets. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Illiya 10m is nothing. There are titans funded completely by scammed assets. Naa 10 mil is nothing. But the fact that people bought those ships off of me for basically 100% profit is what I find funny. I love scamming people even if it's for 100 isk.
SharpMango 14th Legion	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:27:00 - [9] meh, even jitan scammers dont make that much, perhaps 100mill per day. most are lying if they tell u otherwise. big boys make more than 100mill per day.
Tearless Trel	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:34:00 - [10] See, yes, 100mil/day. And not by scamming. That is what I would like :P Hell I would live with 50mil/day at this point. Been playing this game on and off for too long; one would think I would have found this out by now.

Sacul Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:38:00 - [11] Most people who have played a long time know how to make isk. If a 2005 vet is poor he is poor because he is lazy or stupid. Offcourse maybe he doesnt care but my point is they dont need to be poor. A small startup capital and make reactions, caps, invention bpc's for mods or ships. Not that hard to make isk and if you can be efficient it wont even be to time consuming. I only started to make isk when i decided to pay for all my accounts by gtc but damn its pretty easy to do so to my own surprise.
Alucard Shadowlore	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:57:00 - [12] Renting out little Caldari girls..... J/K...so what is scamming? If someone is stupid enough to sell me $500 ammo for $5 is that scamming? If so...I am one happy scammer! Merry Christmas!
Spike 68 Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:57:00 - [13] You don't necessarily need isk, some of the best pvpers in Eve's history were next to flat broke 24/7. But yeah though, the people that do have huge amounts of isk got it from scamming, the t2 bpos, whoring the old complexes, or they somehow have a really good moon to mine for themselves.
Lady Karma	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:59:00 - [14] Farming Dyspro
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.25 02:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Alucard Shadowlore Renting out little Caldari girls..... J/K...so what is scamming? If someone is stupid enough to sell me $500 ammo for $5 is that scamming? If so...I am one happy scammer! Merry Christmas! By definition it is, but that is just people being dumb, not really scamming. Scamming is when you get 2bil isk out of someone plus a Phoenix and they post a thread on Eve-O crying about it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Khemul Zula Amarr Black Plague. Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2008.12.25 03:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Alucard Shadowlore Renting out little Caldari girls..... J/K...so what is scamming? If someone is stupid enough to sell me $500 ammo for $5 is that scamming? If so...I am one happy scammer! Merry Christmas! No but you might get banned for buying items with real world money. ------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Onionico Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.12.25 03:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Alucard Shadowlore Renting out little Caldari girls x2
Xavier Zedicus	Posted - 2008.12.25 04:04:00 - [18] If you have isk in your pocket your not trying hard enough.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2008.12.25 04:26:00 - [19] level 4 missions earned my first 2 Bill isk (not a one days work by any means :P). Now I just have lots of isk that I do not use. I do PvP, but I perfer samll ships for PvP :P. Its just fun to fly frigs/AF's/Intys (I do not like SB's). and I seldom loose ships, so thats a bonus :).
Bei Bao Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.25 04:31:00 - [20] Originally by: Xavier Zedicus If you have isk in your pocket your not trying hard enough. What if you make it faster than you can lose it? Fly bigger ships?

Apoctasy Carebear Poachers plc	Posted - 2008.12.25 04:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Illiya Thirding Scamming. Scamming
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.12.25 05:09:00 - [22] owning 150000000 moon mining poses doing copying on t2 titan blueprints
BlargFish	Posted - 2008.12.25 05:17:00 - [23] Scamming. I made 1 billion isk in dodixie just from scamming in two days. Much easier than missioning, but dont tell anyone.
Dal Thrax Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2008.12.25 05:25:00 - [24] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: Illiya Thirding Scamming. I sold a Cadari Navy Ibis for 10 mil, and a ibis named Cadari Navy Hookbil for 12 mil. Yes I know, it's Caldari Navy Hookbill, but the set name ship option doesn't provide enough spaces to change it to the full name. I love Jita. What a waste of time. Ok so you scammed somebody for 12m, unless you pulled the entire thing off in under about 30 minutes of your time, you lost isk on that deal.
digitalwanderer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.12.25 05:34:00 - [25] Edited by: digitalwanderer on 25/12/2008 05:35:07 Takes isk to do it,but invest in capital component BPO's,at least 10 or 11,research theml,then setup a POS to do nothing but BPC copies to sell. If i doing the calculations by head right,you can crank out 165 copies inside a month,and each can sell from 5 to 20 million each,but average it out at 10 million each overall,and there you have it 1.65 billion a month(almost 20 billion a year),and all you have to do is keep the POS fueled. Plus you still have more than enough free time to either mission run lvl 4's,or pvp when you feel like it,or even go into officer module trading with the profits that the POS is pulling on it's own....It rains isk in high sec empire if you use your imagination.
Soularize Caldari Yggdrasil Council	Posted - 2008.12.25 09:22:00 - [26] suicide ganking in high sec used to be profitable not sure how it is now however
kworld modro B.L.A.C.K.	Posted - 2008.12.25 09:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Tearless Trel In the early days of EVE, I mined. From then to now (with copious giant breaks in between subscription periods) I have missioned and traded. Soloing, I find that none of these really make me enough money to be 'happy' with myself. I have not done too many L4 missions, so that is uncharted territory, but still... So, do people make giant amounts of ISK PVPing? Greater risk = greater reward? Or is it the hallowed corp/alliance that leads to the big bucks? [This time around I am finally going to get into PVP/corps, regardless of whether any of my WoW-addicted friends are playing.] Its simple to easly make isk you need to grow up from an empire carebear who doesnt like pvp to a 0.0 ratter who likes pew pew. To make isk comes with a risk.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.12.25 10:12:00 - [28] Sweatshops. Cheaper than GTCs or RMT. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.12.25 10:12:00 - [29] Originally by: kworld Its simple to easly make isk you need to grow up from an empire carebear who doesnt like pvp to a 0.0 ratter who likes pew pew. To make isk comes with a risk. Which is a funny thing to say, i haven't died in 1 1/2 years while ratting. (I did die in a ratting ship though) But the profits of ratting are overshadowed by even greater boredom than lvl4 mission grinding. During wartime, i do that with an alt, and it's painful. I made most of my money with exploration. Sadly, exploration is horribly overfarmed in many areas and has been hit repeatedly by a stealth nerf. Today, you mostly get tag&ammo from factionspawns. Meh. Today, apart from ratting, i do some trading to supply 0.0 with fair priced mods. My rhea, funded with exploration, helps a lot.. ---------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.12.25 10:23:00 - [30] Hard work and care with a grain of luck. Patch days are huge isk makers if you have the dedication to take time off to be on EVE during a Tuesday at midnight trough Wednesday evening.



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