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Jason Edwards	Posted - 2008.12.26 05:54:00 - [1] Edited by: Jason Edwards on 26/12/2008 05:54:34 This system would be the home of the concord. The entire system would be enveloped by a Pos shield in the sense which makes targeting impossible. This system would be home of a super powerful jove designed cyno system. For a cost you can jump ,anything with a jumpdrive, to it. For a cost ofcoarse. This cyno system amplifies your jumpdrive perhaps 10x giving access to all of low sec but very little of 0.0 or no 0.0. This system due to the cost of jumping in and out makes it theoretically more expensive then if you bought the capital off contract for example. The cost of isk-cyno fuel buy order would be a self-balancing system. This would be home to the Concord Headquarters; due to the inability of targetting other ships. Even if you are at war with someone. Area of effect weapons would be very stupid to use as a neutral could show up and you get concordokken. This system could have the possibility of becoming the next Jita so the system would be pre-streamlined. Meaning no planets, no belts, no anything; except some stargates, 1 super cyno, and the Giant HQ. INB4TREELOXTROLL ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.26 06:39:00 - [2] Why?
Ron Bacardi	Posted - 2008.12.26 08:25:00 - [3] Originally by: Dianeces Why?
FunzzeR Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.12.26 08:32:00 - [4] Originally by: Dianeces Why? This. Really bad troll attempt...
Ivena Amethyst	Posted - 2008.12.26 09:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Dianeces Why? granted it'd bee very cool but why why why would ccp do it? -------- Is that an Itty V in your pocket or ar you just happy to see me?
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.12.26 10:07:00 - [6] With out any answer to the "WHY?" I can not support this idea. TL:DR = NO Originally by: Jason Edwards INB4TREELOXTROLL I am so glad you care. I actually often give thumbs up to many an issue here. Unfortunetly, for you I say "NO" to yours. Maybe if your issues had a sense of balance or reasoning to them, I could vote in affirmation for them. Case in point this idea you bring us in this thread, while it may be "cool", why should it be in game, what benifit, balance, problem or concern does it fix/improve? --
Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.26 11:17:00 - [7] Originally by: Dianeces Why? ----------------------------------------- Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
Jason Edwards	Posted - 2008.12.26 11:31:00 - [8] Quote: Why? Quote: what benifit, balance, problem or concern does it fix/improve? 1. Replaces Jita. Jita right now was designed as a system. It had an ice belt, agents, everything. CCP is trying to slowly streamline Jita but every boost only leads to Jita getting crushed further. It's an endless system. Improve it so it can hold 2000 people and 2500 will want into jita. 1.1 This would be a pure station system. Would have a few stargates; if 1 isnt found to be enough and congesting. Maybe a star.. but would be even more cool if the system was a lone station in space. 2. Creates a place to trade capitals safely. Including supercapitals. Currently if Chribba, Glory be upon the greatone, were to get a life, or lose his life(FSM forbid); or whatever. Trading supercapitals would be impossible basically. Among other things which use his 3rd party service. 2.1 Contracts more or less show where you build your capitals. You can build in low sec station. Sell there; but the pos builders have a risk factor which means they may want to jump to another low sec system to sell; but where? 2.2 Lets say I buy in Oulley. Would anyone in providence want to buy my carrier? Even with maximum skills that takes 3 jumps. Base skills is 5 jumps. That's with a carrier and not stopping by stations. 2.3 This makes it so everyone in those situations get it in 1 jump. Much more easy. 3. Jump freighters currently cant jump in high sec. Meaning high sec logistics are only slightly slower. 3.1 When you create a market where lots of products can move in fast, while not so fast in out. This creates a high competition market. Which Jita currently doesnt have. Often times you can find better deals outside jita. Trust me this is a good thing. Jumpfreighter traders have the ability to pull off the market in citadel and jump to this system to unload for a profit even if it's 1% They will do it. 3.2 same effect can be seen in real life. Go buy a pair of pants downtime in your city in a high density area. You pay 200% markup. Goto the walmart in the suburb and u pay nothing. 4. This strengthens the dead area of high sec and low sec. People can go to the dead areas that are like 15 jumps from any trade up. Amarr space has lots of these system; gallente have solitude etc etc. 4.1 They can build in those areas, jump right to this system. Unload their product; bring back ammo and such things to populate the mission hub in their area. 4.2 Take solitude for example. 5 jumps through bubbled 0.0, or 20 jumps through low sec. Has a pretty good mission hub there in my opinion. Due to it being so dead you can make isk off the mission runners by buying their minerals/mods. Moving meta 4 to this system. Building whatever. Moving whatever the mission runners dont touch. The belts might be untouched so lots of mining to be had. Solitude would get a huge boost from this. Alternative ccp could come around and say naaah lets leave solitude in its solitude. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Droog 1	Posted - 2008.12.26 11:57:00 - [9] I thought Masternerdguy had the worst ideas.
Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.26 11:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Jason Edwards Quote: Why? Quote: what benifit, balance, problem or concern does it fix/improve? 1. Replaces Jita. Jita right now was designed as a system. It had an ice belt, agents, everything. CCP is trying to slowly streamline Jita but every boost only leads to Jita getting crushed further. It's an endless system. Improve it so it can hold 2000 people and 2500 will want into jita. 1.1 This would be a pure station system. Would have a few stargates; if 1 isnt found to be enough and congesting. Maybe a star.. but would be even more cool if the system was a lone station in space. 2. Creates a place to trade capitals safely. Including supercapitals. Currently if Chribba, Glory be upon the greatone, were to get a life, or lose his life(FSM forbid); or whatever. Trading supercapitals would be impossible basically. Among other things which use his 3rd party service. 2.1 Contracts more or less show where you build your capitals. You can build in low sec station. Sell there; but the pos builders have a risk factor which means they may want to jump to another low sec system to sell; but where? 2.2 Lets say I buy in Oulley. Would anyone in providence want to buy my carrier? Even with maximum skills that takes 3 jumps. Base skills is 5 jumps. That's with a carrier and not stopping by stations. 2.3 This makes it so everyone in those situations get it in 1 jump. Much more easy. 3. Jump freighters currently cant jump in high sec. Meaning high sec logistics are only slightly slower. 3.1 When you create a market where lots of products can move in fast, while not so fast in out. This creates a high competition market. Which Jita currently doesnt have. Often times you can find better deals outside jita. Trust me this is a good thing. Jumpfreighter traders have the ability to pull off the market in citadel and jump to this system to unload for a profit even if it's 1% They will do it. 3.2 same effect can be seen in real life. Go buy a pair of pants downtime in your city in a high density area. You pay 200% markup. Goto the walmart in the suburb and u pay nothing. 4. This strengthens the dead area of high sec and low sec. People can go to the dead areas that are like 15 jumps from any trade up. Amarr space has lots of these system; gallente have solitude etc etc. 4.1 They can build in those areas, jump right to this system. Unload their product; bring back ammo and such things to populate the mission hub in their area. 4.2 Take solitude for example. 5 jumps through bubbled 0.0, or 20 jumps through low sec. Has a pretty good mission hub there in my opinion. Due to it being so dead you can make isk off the mission runners by buying their minerals/mods. Moving meta 4 to this system. Building whatever. Moving whatever the mission runners dont touch. The belts might be untouched so lots of mining to be had. Solitude would get a huge boost from this. Alternative ccp could come around and say naaah lets leave solitude in its solitude. Wall'o'Text. 1. Jita has been a problem for long. Moving that problem somewhere else is not the solution. 2. "Trade Safely"? Die in the burning hell, we don't need a 100% safe system where you can jump capitals in and out. Chribba and Other supercapital trader are just players. IT WILL BE POSSIBLE to trade supercapitals after the Veldspar runs out of EVE and our Veldspar Overlord gets depressed and cut himself with rocky scrissors (made of DENSE veldspar). They're a great Community reference, they're great and all. They're still players. 3. Again, NO!. jumpfreighters are suppsoed to be the only capital capable of jumping in-between High-sec and LS/0.0 with the sole drawback of being DUMB**TASTICALLY SLOW. 4. SAGE...ermh, i mean SAFE TRADE doesn't belong to EVE. we have a market, that's all the "SAFE" you can have. adding more will just unbalance the current gameplay to a point where it wouldn't be funny anymore. TL;DR -> OP is a troll. ----------------------------------------- Originally by:** Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.

Kaijusan Gallente gallach minig Corp New Eve Mining manufacturing Organisation	Posted - 2008.12.26 12:00:00 - [11] In all seriousness though, what WOULD happen if, G-d forbid, Chribba suddenly wasnt around anymore. We take his being here for granted, I think, and we really do need some sort of backup just in case.
Abulurd Boniface	Posted - 2008.12.26 14:08:00 - [12] Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 26/12/2008 14:14:57 Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 26/12/2008 14:13:27 Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 26/12/2008 14:12:18 Originally by: Kaijusan In all seriousness though, what WOULD happen if, G-d forbid, Chribba suddenly wasnt around anymore. We take his being here for granted, I think, and we really do need some sort of backup just in case. Cloning technology should become main stream in a few decades. Chribba lives in one of the more enlightened countries in the world. He should have a high life expectancy, if he can overcome the depression that is a natural companion of people who for a great part of the year are deprived of sufficient daylight. To answer OP, bottlenecks are a natural phenomenon everywhere people congregate. Some aspect of a location will draw the attention of many people seeking an advantage. Everywhere masses of people convene problems arise, we're that kind of species. In a virtual environment it only means we're trying to find a balance to what the system can deliver. The answer is not to have a super Concord system. The answer is, and it gives me great pleasure to find it here as I type, so that the greater EVE community may benefit: an extra stargate in Jita that connects directly to *for instance* [with great emphasis on the 'for instance' part so as to prevent the whaaaaaaambulance from being started] Arnola system in Derelik. This is 0.5 space, bordering on nul-sec in the Great Wildlands and could become the nul-sec equivalent of Jita. This would off-load the pressure on Jita and give the nul-sec traders a place to trade in the relative safety of 0.5 space guarded by Concord. Conversely, some nul-sec system might be upgraded to 0.5 space, with some Concord protection. It's the same idea with a slightly different twist. Obviously I would not propose anything as preposterous as asking for an actual safe place to trade. Goodness gracious me, imagine the idea. At the same time brisk trading at the border of nul sec in an environment where the murderous butchers that normally express their lack of empathy at gate camps were held at arms-length, would provide an opportunity for business to bloom in low-security zones, with direct access to Empire space. This would facilitate the transfer of goods from low-sec to high-sec and vice versa and have the added benefit of shifting some of the burden that is now on Jita to another trade hub. It's a win-win situation, it makes perfect sense, there is no shadow of a hope that it will be implemented. At least we'll be able to kvetch about lag in Jita for a few decades longer. Abulurd Boniface ME ME CEO
Karentaki Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.12.26 18:36:00 - [13] No. Quote: EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.26 19:02:00 - [14] Don't drink and post. /thumbs down
BlondieBC Minmatar Ardent Industrial Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.27 01:16:00 - [15] really, really bad idea
Foulque	Posted - 2008.12.27 06:11:00 - [16] Stop posting already, seriously you're ideas are all horrible.
LUC1FER Caldari Rulers Of Mankind	Posted - 2009.01.16 09:57:00 - [17] Very.... um.... Creative, I agree with the others posts m8, not a good idea as it solve nothing.
Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:08:00 - [18] No support... strange and useless idea.
Camilo Cienfuegos Earned In Blood	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:39:00 - [19] Bump to this post so it can receive more "no" reponses. Oh, and no.
Efrim Black	Posted - 2009.01.16 16:17:00 - [20] Edited by: Efrim Black on 16/01/2009 16:18:39 Originally by: Jason Edwards Edited by: Jason Edwards on 26/12/2008 05:54:34 This system would be the home of the concord. BLAH BLAH BLAH This system would be home of a super powerful jove designed cyno system. BLAH BLAH BLAH This would be home to the Concord Headquarters -- WAT!? -- This system could have the possibility of becoming the next Jita so the system would be pre-streamlined. INB4TREELOXTROLL Disregard that I ** **s I actually started formulating a response before I realized who you were. You're the worst troll I've ever seen on this forum. 4 topics in 24 hours. All 4 of them are half-baked and borderline insane ideas. Please go troll some other board instead of clogging this one with utterly insane suggestions.

Saralle Zhukov Minmatar Win Tech	Posted - 2009.01.17 12:07:00 - [21] Why not just let caps jump into Jita? Oh the insanity, here comes BoB with the months haul from all their little pets, 50 caps jump in fully loaded with mins and lootz from all the ratting and complex running and moon minin etc etc. NC hot on the button has scouts in Jita watching for just such an occurence and has war decced all the BoB pets and of course BoB, oh my, Jita fills with explosions, nuet haulers scurry from stations grabbing everything they can. Oh the humanity, I can't stand it. Let CAPS jump into Jita now!!! I just think it would be tooooo funny.
Neesa Corrinne Ore Mongers	Posted - 2009.01.17 12:43:00 - [22] Is there a way to ban someone from the Assembly Hall after posting several ridiculously bad ideas in a row and pushing all the good ideas to the second page?


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