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SnowxCrash
Concorded Saints
Aerodyne Collective
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:36:00 -
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When I came back to Eve in Dec I was kind of disappointed by the engine. I was taken back that aliasing was still an issue to an extent, but what really hit me is how lifeless and dead the stars look. I mean, I didn't expect some glorious over-the-top shader, but, even Mass Effect 1 has better stars. Hell, even Gear of War 3 has a better star shader. Could you work on the stars? Sure it's not that big of a deal but stars are an integral part of the visual environment and it seems like greeting new players with something amazing would be worthwhile. Personally, I'd like to see more graphics options, increased AA, maybe even some tessellation eventually. There's certainly room for more intensive graphics, I mean, my current rig, which isn't all that awesome(2500k/gtx 570) is sometimes under so little load from Eve that it downclocks and my fps drops to 30. It really can't be that hard to make this though, given the community mods that I've seen just for Oblivion which have added shaders that did amazing things for stars and light sources in general. |
Zarere
Team Pizza
Viro Mors Non Est
14
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:39:00 -
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Is this a trollpost?
Stars twinkle because of atmospheric disturbances and air of various temperatures mixing, stars dont twinkle in space. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:41:00 -
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Um ... stars don't twinkle when you're in space. They appear to twinkle when you're on earth because you're looking at them through the atmosphere. There's no atmosphere in space. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillation_%28astronomy%29
Also, paragraphs, learn to use them. |
SnowxCrash
Concorded Saints
Aerodyne Collective
12
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:46:00 -
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Zarere wrote:Is this a trollpost?
Stars twinkle because of atmospheric disturbances and air of various temperatures mixing, stars dont twinkle in space.
I guess I wasn't clear, and could've used better phrasing. The stars in Eve look dead not because they don't twinkle, but because they don't look like a light source. They look more like those white specks that used to pass as stars in dx7 engines, just higher-res. |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
Dark Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:53:00 -
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Wouldn't work in a vacuum. You need an atmosphere to have twinkling stars. Would look brilliant from space though.
Sometimes, the best thing to do is have a random moment of compassion. |
SnowxCrash
Concorded Saints
Aerodyne Collective
12
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:53:00 -
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I know, I thought using using twinkle with ' ' would show that I did not mean a 1:1 meaning of literally making stars twinkle as if there were atmospheric disturbance but only as a placeholder to use in a title in order to keep the title short. I also thought it might serve as some indication of the extent in which I felt the stars lacked a feeling of being alive, rather than obscure dots of color on a screen.
I'm going to edit the topic to make this clear. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
1208
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Posted - 2012.04.14 17:05:00 -
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But ... stars aren't alive. I believe that the stars in Eve are a very accurate representation of what you would see from space if you were looking around at stars. Stars are so far away that an individual star won't make a significant contribution to the shadows of any given ship and they don't exactly move around or anything, they just sit there as points of light.
How are the current stars in Eve unrealistic at all? |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
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Posted - 2012.04.14 17:12:00 -
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bah |
SnowxCrash
Concorded Saints
Aerodyne Collective
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:49:00 -
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mxzf wrote:But ... stars aren't alive. I believe that the stars in Eve are a very accurate representation of what you would see from space if you were looking around at stars. Stars are so far away that an individual star won't make a significant contribution to the shadows of any given ship and they don't exactly move around or anything, they just sit there as points of light.
How are the current stars in Eve unrealistic at all?
I'm not saying they should be more luminous. I've been referring to how they don't shine, they have no luminosity at all. They have more in common with a painted rock then they do a source of light. I feel they should have a shine, a certain brightness, that both portrays the energy being released by stars and the enormous distance of those points of light. Embellish reality a bit, it's not as if Eve is Hard SF that needs an uncompromising representation of reality. |
Aethlyn
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Posted - 2012.04.14 19:05:00 -
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IMO the only time stars are an issue is when zooming the camera using the advanced camera controls (i.e. zooming with both mouse buttons held down). They look really ugly when "zoomed in" (which shouldn't be possible that way anyway. But in "standard view" they're perfectly fine.
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Katerwaul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 19:22:00 -
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If we're trying to make stars more alive -- suggest that they affect ships directly. Fly too close & start to get pulled in, take damage, etc... systems with pulsars might have some kind of natural EMC effect or sensor dampening.... But If you're looking for twinkle...maybe the stars will twinkle in Dust 514...you know, since there's an atmosphere.
Working with everyone to improve New Eden -- Internet Spaceships Iz Serious Business. |
Quade Warren
Urban Mining Corp
Rising Phoenix Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.04.14 21:50:00 -
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To be honest and to point out a strange irony, for as much time as we capsuleers spend among the stars, we rarely take that much time to sit back and really absorb the panorama. I get that the skies aren't that immersing.
One silly idea I had would be to have certain stars light up in adjacent constellations so many years after a major fleet engagement took place in close star system. Titan's exploding, supercaps exploding... probably enough energy given off to be seen some years later. This isn't the focus of the game, though, so spending any form of develop time on this would be, as I said, silly. |
Zarere
Team Pizza
Viro Mors Non Est
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Posted - 2012.04.14 21:58:00 -
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And from pluto even our own sun is nothing but a pinsized speck of light.
If anything the stars in eve is too bright and the nebulae too visible. |
FoxFire Ayderan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 23:41:00 -
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Yeah, the main star of a solar system needs to get MUCH smaller as you get further away from it.
It seems it stays a very bright object regardless of how far out the planet you are at is. |
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