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Plundaar Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.01.01 04:11:00 - [1] Hear me out, I'm not suggesting we remove them only that expand the base. As it stands right now we have basics (1) and advanced (3) so how about we step up to Elite (*5) skills?
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.01 04:55:00 - [2] Ugh. No thanks. I'd like more new skills that get me cool new stuff to play with. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Plundaar Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.01.01 05:28:00 - [3] Do you have any better suggestions on how people advance their training speeds then? Or perhaps a way that the skill set can be removed and yet the training for a stat remain? The way things are now, 45k produces the 1, 4.5m produces the 3 and requires level 4 of the 1, I'm just following the trail and estimate the 5 would be 450m and require level 4 of the *3, and while not for all would be logical to exist. The other end of the spectrum is to remove the books and skill set and produce a non-related attirube building system. You start at base, can increase the base by 5 for 45k, to 10 for 4.5m, to 15 for 450m, to 20 for 45b... etc. Either direction is a suggestion. I'm just giving a suggestion and requesting more input on how to implement such a suggestion. If you don't wish to discuss plausable means then don't reply. You can vote that we do not require such a suggestion or reply with better option in your view.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2009.01.01 06:21:00 - [4] Or, since learning is fine as it is, we can just leave it alone. - Lotto - Paladin! Cruiser BPC Store
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.01.01 06:23:00 - [5] For starters.... all this is.... is an excuse to speed up training as your too impatient to play the game. And honestly.... adding to it or taking away from it is not a good idea. No on both counts. "Works as intended" =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.01 07:17:00 - [6] Learning skills are a **ty game mechanic and CCP has admitted that it was a mistake adding them. They aren't going to expand them. Originally by:** Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Foulque	Posted - 2009.01.01 16:06:00 - [7] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Learning skills are a ****ty game mechanic and CCP has admitted that it was a mistake adding them. They aren't going to expand them. ^ This, adding more learning skills is not a good move. As for quicker training times, No. ________
Berious Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.01.01 19:48:00 - [8] So you want to turn weeks of newbie ****block into months?
FunzzeR Counter Errorist Unit	Posted - 2009.01.01 20:36:00 - [9] CCP has already stated that learning skills were a mistake, so it is rather counterintuitve to put in more learning skills. /thumbs down
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.02 01:59:00 - [10] If you train learning V, basic learning skills @ V and advanced learning skills to 4 it takes OVER A YEAR for you to catch up to someone who didn't train any learning skills. You want even more advanced skills that means even more insane times to wait until you get actual payoff. If you actually knew how learning skills worked you would know this already. Originally by: Plundaar Either direction is a suggestion. I'm just giving a suggestion and requesting more input on how to implement such a suggestion. If you don't wish to discuss plausable means then don't reply. You can vote that we do not require such a suggestion or reply with better option in your view. You suggestion is idiotic and you didn't put any thought into it. What you want is a trap to waste players training time. Skills have a basic and advanced version, nothing really gets a third tier. You get cruiser to V and then each t2 cruiser goes to V. You get a gun/missile to V then the specialization to V. It doesn't continue forever and ever, it ends. Skills that do not give you any benefit ingame are the worst, they make players quit the game and don't give people reason to log on and play. If you get mining barge V, you log on and can't wait to play again. If you get learning whatever to V, you switch the skill and go play something else. I troll stupid ideas, this is a stupid idea. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Eldaec	Posted - 2009.01.02 13:52:00 - [11] Originally by: FunzzeR CCP has already stated that learning skills were a mistake, so it is rather counterintuitve to put in more learning skills. /thumbs down This. Just give everyone +10 to each attribute and take this godawful mechanic out altogether. Need a button to actively disagree with this terrible post.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.	Posted - 2009.01.02 20:48:00 - [12] Jesus NO!
Emotek	Posted - 2009.01.03 02:04:00 - [13] Learning skills are a novelty in themselves. People attempt to use them as a means to a end but they fail to recognize that perhaps, to some, the learning skills are a end. Myself, for example. I have trained all my learning skills to level 5 and several of the science skills to level 5 not because I am using them to fly a titan but because itt is part of my character. I am a academic by trade in real life and learning is the crux of my EVE Online character. I would gobble up any science or learning skills that would help me become a better "academic". But aside from role playing 'it is not as if anyone is making you train the learning skills'. The current situation of learning skills, as put by some of the more 'advanced' (or 'older') players is that there is a tradeoff when deciding to train learning skills or other nonlearning skills. If CCP were to implement the new learning skills, then how would the situation change from where it currently is? Most people would still not learn to level 5. Yet, the option is there. While I am, in general, not a fan of the skill system, I see no impediment in offering higher rank learning skills to those that want to train them. (I would steer clear of discussing prerequisates, however, since it is sure to incure a fight.)
Foulque	Posted - 2009.01.03 02:16:00 - [14] Originally by: Eldaec Just give everyone +10 to each attribute and take this godawful mechanic out altogether. Seriously, someone post it in here plx ^^ Just give a skill credit of those points put into learnings and we can be done with them forever \o/ ________
Cyprus Black Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.04 05:31:00 - [15] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Learning skills are a ****ty game mechanic and CCP has admitted that it was a mistake adding them. They aren't going to expand them. I would like to see the time required for learning skills cut significantly. If it really was a mistake and too late to remove them, the least CCP could do is greatly reduce the amount of time it takes to raise those learning skills. All other skills are fine as is. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
JorEl Tarasque	Posted - 2009.01.22 07:35:00 - [16] Edited by: JorEl Tarasque on 22/01/2009 07:37:44 I don't believe that removing learning skills is impossible. There's a difference between impossible and just not wanting to take the time and dot. If it is, the other option is just max them for everyone. 5/5. This (cough, cough) mechanic can really put off new players. A new player doesn't want to spend 3 months training skills to learn other skills. The excitement of a new game will go out the window REALLY FAST. There is a reason that 80% of new players quit within a short period after signing up. Say what you will, Eve needs to make some changes to bring in a broader, newer playing base. Just my two cents. (and no I'm not a noob. I've been her almost two years have 4 accounts and all of my players are way past training any learning skills)
Jin Labarre	Posted - 2009.01.25 00:54:00 - [17] yuck Not MORE learning skills.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:43:00 - [18] Oh yes lets please do make it more complicated.
Haakelen Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.25 02:18:00 - [19] More learning skills? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Mad Shade Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.25 02:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Haakelen More learning skills? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. I second this motion.
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles V.I.R.A.L.	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:24:00 - [21] Learning skills are fine as they are.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.25 09:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Plundaar Hear me out, I'm not suggesting we remove them only that expand the base. As it stands right now we have basics (1) and advanced (3) so how about we step up to Elite (*5) skills? How about we dont

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