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Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.02 03:16:00 - [1] For those of you in the Dogs of War occupation like myself and my corpm8s we need to band together and lower the bar to new business. Specifically, we need to raise the limit on War Decs, I just proposed doubling it to 6 in the Assembly Hall, hopefully some of you happy station campers out there will support this motion with a thumbs up. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
El Liptonez	Posted - 2009.01.02 03:26:00 - [2] Edited by: El Liptonez on 02/01/2009 03:26:55 Sometimes I think if these people have fun beating 4 year olds in the kindergarten. If you feel successful, go to 0.0 or Wardec some corps that are able to fly at least cruisers... Edit: Even tried low sec?
Zeromentor High Flyers Sev3rance	Posted - 2009.01.02 07:11:00 - [3] Well, on the "mercs need money, too!" arguement I support. But on the "wats bout uz newbza!?!" arguement... I support it. Seriously though. I don't really see much of a problem. If it comes down to needing more targets, try bigger corps or go for a newbie alliance. Seriously, I don't think this could possibly hurt anyone more than the current limit (whatever that limit may be...) ______________________________________ *I was going to put a sig here, but I decided having a smaller sig would make it less likely to be hit by people's turrets.*
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2009.01.02 07:24:00 - [4] It'd be nice, War makes EVE fun Probably won't happen. Wardecs are the "pay to grief" system apparently *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.01.02 12:40:00 - [5] War decs even from very small corps can kill a newly formed corp of nubs, nubs are good for the game since ccp know that after about 2-3yrs even the most hardened player gets bored and stops paying, the nubs pay and thats the reason the wardec limit is unlikely to be raised. Wether or not thats a good thing is a whole other discussion, although I'll echo what the first response states. Big fish, small pond is tragic. Empire war decs are mainly for kiddy griefers 100% too scared to go to 0.0 themselves so they pick on nubs in the jita undock.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.04 17:11:00 - [6] Originally by: El Liptonez Edited by: El Liptonez on 02/01/2009 03:26:55 Sometimes I think if these people have fun beating 4 year olds in the kindergarten. If you feel successful, go to 0.0 or Wardec some corps that are able to fly at least cruisers... Edit: Even tried low sec? Ur assumptionz are fallaciouz. Noobz are not high ISK targetz in Hi Sec. Other Mercz should have experienced the 48 hourz of delay in getting new WAUGH going. Plz support raising War Dec Limit to 6 in Assembly Hall. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
Vilhelm Heckenberg	Posted - 2009.01.06 08:11:00 - [7] No.
Atraxerxes Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.01.07 23:53:00 - [8] I would support 6 war dec's with 1 conditions. The corp declaring the war dec would have to pay a penalty that would be multiplied based on the skills of the corp they are decing vs. their own. So if you have 5 guys with 30 mil SP each (150 mil total) and you dec a 15 man indy corp with maybe 4 mil SP each (60 mil total) you'd have to pay a fee on top of the normal dec fee multiplied by that 90 mil (or the percentage difference).
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2009.01.08 09:14:00 - [9] No. You're just being greedy. If it was raised to six - after a while you'd want it to be 12, then you want it to be 24, then you'd want there to be no limit (just as there is no limit to greed). There's enough casual bullying going on now as it is. "You insulted me so I'm war deccing you - pay me 100 Million ISK to stop." IRL that's called extortion. The next part of which is paying protection money. "Pay me 100 million or I will war dec you." There is to steep a learning curve in this game. Make it possible for the aggressive experienced player to bully more new people and you'll drive more new people from the game. New players quit all the time from being bullied. Right now - there are more new players coming in than are leaving, allow more bullying and you may well change that. Not a good idea. Faction Schools Orbiting vs. Kiting
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.10 04:29:00 - [10] Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 10/01/2009 04:32:50 What was the supporting reason for increasing the number of decs again? I didn't see one other than it would make the op laugh like Beavis.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.10 05:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Originally by: El Liptonez Edited by: El Liptonez on 02/01/2009 03:26:55 Sometimes I think if these people have fun beating 4 year olds in the kindergarten. If you feel successful, go to 0.0 or Wardec some corps that are able to fly at least cruisers... Edit: Even tried low sec? Ur assumptionz are fallaciouz. Noobz are not high ISK targetz in Hi Sec. Other Mercz should have experienced the 48 hourz of delay in getting new WAUGH going. Plz support raising War Dec Limit to 6 in Assembly Hall. Plz read what I stated before. If ur going to oppose my position at least have the courtesy to understand my position. I understand ur position that you think I am killing 3 month old players. None of my corp m8ts to the bestz of my knowledge has ever killed any player trying to avoid PVP. Now it'z ur turn to post a rebuttal. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
El Liptonez	Posted - 2009.01.10 12:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Originally by: El Liptonez Edited by: El Liptonez on 02/01/2009 03:26:55 Sometimes I think if these people have fun beating 4 year olds in the kindergarten. If you feel successful, go to 0.0 or Wardec some corps that are able to fly at least cruisers... Edit: Even tried low sec? Ur assumptionz are fallaciouz. Noobz are not high ISK targetz in Hi Sec. Other Mercz should have experienced the 48 hourz of delay in getting new WAUGH going. Plz support raising War Dec Limit to 6 in Assembly Hall. Plz read what I stated before. If ur going to oppose my position at least have the courtesy to understand my position. I understand ur position that you think I am killing 3 month old players. None of my corp m8ts to the bestz of my knowledge has ever killed any player trying to avoid PVP. Now it'z ur turn to post a rebuttal. Actually I didn't find your position, that's why I was posting. Even if I found your position and understood it, I still would not support it. That's for my personal reasons. And yeah, you cannot shoot noobs docking up or being in warp all the time. Sorry, I can't believe you're not wardeccing newb corps, that's why I don't support your effort.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.12 11:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Iwant Urstuff -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: El Liptonez -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: El Liptonez on 02/01/2009 03:26:55 Sometimes I think if these people have fun beating 4 year olds in the kindergarten. If you feel successful, go to 0.0 or Wardec some corps that are able to fly at least cruisers... Edit: Even tried low sec? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ur assumptionz are fallaciouz. Noobz are not high ISK targetz in Hi Sec. Other Mercz should have experienced the 48 hourz of delay in getting new WAUGH going. Plz support raising War Dec Limit to 6 in Assembly Hall. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually I didn't find your position, that's why I was posting. Even if I found your position and understood it, I still would not support it. That's for my personal reasons. And yeah, you cannot shoot noobs docking up or being in warp all the time. Sorry, I can't believe you're not wardeccing newb corps, that's why I don't support your effort. Well I understand that u arrived at ur opinionz in an honest way plz at least consider that I have done the same thing. Either way as I said in the Assembly Hall, "To those of you Dogz of War who continue to support this topic many thankz!!! Please take the time to add a thumbz up to your post, this makes it eazier for the CSM to evaluate support. Again thankz to all thoze who have viewed this topic, thoze who have posted in support, and thoze who have voiced the oppozition view (I don't agree with those oppozing but it'z great to see pilotz taking this issue seriously)." Thank you for taking the time to post a seriouz reply. (Although I knowz ur wrong aboutz the noob thingy). Maybe one of our opponents will enlighten you here, but I kinda doubtz that will happen. They don't want anybody copying our ideaz, one visit from uz is bad enough, getting visited by 20 or 30 corpz doing what we do would prolly give them ulcerz. If we were really war deccing noobz they would be whining about uz constantly. In the last 3 monthz we have prozecuted lotz of targetz (add total here after DT dummie)<<=== I'll be editing this soon and the dummie is me cuz I can never remember how many warz we have fought. Shootz at people docking bwahahahahahahahahaha, check my sec rating it isn't neg 10, unlike some of the piwatz out there, ALL of our shooting waz sanctioned by Concorde with ONE exzeption, a neut guy tried to steal our lootz and we blazted away at him. Then he came back in another Iteron and we blazted him again. No stealing our lootz it'z not allowed. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
Gartel Reiman Civis Romanus Sum	Posted - 2009.01.12 12:48:00 - [14] Personally I'm more curious as to what you use the letter "z" to indicate plurals, when the letter "s" was designated for this purpose and does the job very well indeed.
Stormtrade University of Caille	Posted - 2009.01.12 13:15:00 - [15] Why? The reason you dont have enough targets are because you dont have enough balls to wardec corps with more players. Wardec a huge corp, and you will have your targets. As for wardeccing a larger 00 alliance. It will give you lots of soft haulertargets in emp. But it only last until they get ****ed off and comes into emp with a blobforce and camp you into a station
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.12 13:27:00 - [16] Well I guess the CSM wants to lower the War Dec Limit to ONE or prolly none. Only the negative 10 gank squadz will get pvp in hi sec. Sim Eve from 0.5-1.0 sec. Leastways that is what LaVista Vista told me, he said how about one war dec. I didn't even get to say anything other than Greetingz and I opened a topic in Assembly Hall and thiz guy who ran about how talk to me in game vote for me and all that said he would vote no, I mean how do you present your position if the representativez of the community won't even listen to you. Well at least I know he read this. Guess I will go lower my sec rating and start blowing up noobz like all the other frustrated pvpers. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
Mra Rednu Amarr FiFi LaFey Recruitment Services LTD	Posted - 2009.01.12 14:03:00 - [17] If you must keep posting about this please use an "S" instead of a "Z" as was mentioned above. But really 3 wars should be enough for anyone as long as pick a corp capable of fighting back. Also what you said LaVista ( i think, you seem to of really lost the plot posting now ) said sounds like bs to me and prob most others who have followed the CSM with even a passing interest, he's about the most independent person on there regarding seeing all sides of the discussion.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.14 11:45:00 - [18] Edited by: Iwant Urstuff on 14/01/2009 11:45:48 Plz those of you in support need to reply to the topic in the Assembly Hall Forum with a thumbz up (it'z a little clicky thingy right by the preview check box). If those of uz wanting more privateering vice piwating want to see changez we need to get our voice heard. I would link it but the moderators really really don't like those postz. To the english teacher go fly some kitez out your airlock, your post ur wayz I'll post mine.
SharpMango 14th Legion	Posted - 2009.01.14 12:08:00 - [19] Some excellent rebuttalz (sic) here. Which leads me to conclude that iwantyourstuff is chatting rubbish. If a merc corp wishes for more targets, it should expediate the ending of its current wars and/or wardec larger corps.
Stickletodd Amarr Stickletodd Corp	Posted - 2009.01.14 14:56:00 - [20] I would say yes with one requirement. The corp/alliance dec'd against should have the right to request Empire support and Concord should provide that support. It will make you think really hard about declaring open warfare in high sec space.
Amy Nirvana Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:24:00 - [21] I see no point in raising the limit. You can dec an alliance and essentially get a few dozen corps at once. The only reason to want more war declarations is so that you can attack a greater number of smaller corps. Stop being a puss and attack some bigger fish.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.15 01:56:00 - [22] Originally by: Stickletodd I would say yes with one requirement. The corp/alliance dec'd against should have the right to request Empire support and Concord should provide that support. It will make you think really hard about declaring open warfare in high sec space. Why don't you just say anybody who even thinkz about deccing u in -EVE- getz blown away and all their stuffz iz handed over to uz? That iz the same az no war decz in Empire. You want all the Empire PVP pilotz to go over to the negative ten gank squadz mechanic? At least in a war dec you get a choice of optionz; stand and fight, run and hide, get some help to fight, negotiate while pursuing other optionz and you get time to figure out what option you wish to choose (the choicez are a little more complex than that but they boil down to those simple optionz. With the gank squadz you get bang ur in a pod, bang ur in a clone. Thatz ur warning, maybe they want a ransom, maybe to them ur just a killboard statistic. I think the war dec scenario is far preferable allowing real privateering vice piwating.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.15 02:11:00 - [23] Originally by: Amy Nirvana I see no point in raising the limit. You can dec an alliance and essentially get a few dozen corps at once. The only reason to want more war declarations is so that you can attack a greater number of smaller corps. Stop being a puss and attack some bigger fish. Well, we have war dec'd bigger, smaller, same size corps, and an alliance, there are just 12 of uz atm, unlucky 13 iz getting ready to join up though and heard rumorz from corpm8ts about 14 and 15 also. So ur post and the previous post have something in common u want small corpz to only attack bigger targetz (at least u don't want uz to take on Concorde on demand of a target). Iz the point that twelve (the Dirty Dozen) 3 week to 3.5 month old bunch of noobz that scary to you? Yez our oldest player is 3.5 monthz old and ur lookin at him. Not really sure how ur argument applies to uz, we have attacked bigger targetz, one was a REALLY big target, what u want uz to take on a Coalition? We fight short, sharp, smart warz, achieve our objectivez and get out while the gettin iz good. On to the next fight. No smack talkin, just lotz of shooty shooty pew pew heaven and I think any merc worth hiz pay is the same way. We don't get mean unless they get mean first.
Little Fistter Caldari Highlander Guard	Posted - 2009.01.19 23:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Originally by: El Liptonez Sometimes I think if these people have fun beating 4 year olds in the kindergarten. If you feel successful, go to 0.0 or Wardec some corps that are able to fly at least cruisers... Even tried low sec? Ur assumptionz are fallaciouz. Noobz are not high ISK targetz in Hi Sec. Other Mercz should have experienced the 48 hourz of delay in getting new WAUGH going. Plz support raising War Dec Limit to 6 in Assembly Hall. You are a spoiled little brat who cries like a baby when Mommy says "No" get over yourself and grow up. Oh, and learn to spell, you are just embarassing yourself with that asinine 'I'm too cool for school' routine. What a dwebe! AND Grow the hell up.

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