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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.04.15 01:52:00 -
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We need to make sov more fair and balanced, because right now it just is broken.
So, I propose we scrap the entire sov system for nullsec and implement this.
To claim a nullsec system your alliance must kill more belt NPCs than any other alliance in that system. So if you want sov in ABC-123 and are DRONE ALLIANCE A, you must kill more RAT in that ABC-123 that day than DRONE ALLIANCE B kills in ABC-123 that day.
Also, if you don't kill a rat in a system that day, the system reverts to unclaimed.
By tying sov to the number of rats killed in a system we can guarantee activity in all nullsec fixing lots of problems.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Lost Death
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
0
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Posted - 2012.04.15 01:57:00 -
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I think it would be fun to see how that works out. Lets try it. |
Elyssa MacLeod
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.15 02:06:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:We need to make sov more fair and balanced.
Its sov not Fox News
hell thats not even that
GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.
Where is your God now carebear? |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
THE UNTHINKABLES
48
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Posted - 2012.04.15 02:07:00 -
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no and no. |
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
195
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Posted - 2012.04.15 02:24:00 -
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PVE to determine SOV, this will not end well.
I still say corporations should claim SOV and not alliances.
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Ai Shun
641
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Posted - 2012.04.15 02:31:00 -
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SOV should apply to high, low and null-sec. The corporation / alliance owning it should determine the security status. And even the Empire corporations will need to fight to hold their territory and enforce it. |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
305
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Posted - 2012.04.15 02:38:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:PVE to determine SOV, this will not end well.
I still say corporations should claim SOV and not alliances.
Ratting Titan best Titan.
Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á
Senior Recruiter |
thatboydc
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.04.15 02:43:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:SOV should apply to high, low and null-sec. The corporation / alliance owning it should determine the security status. And even the Empire corporations will need to fight to hold their territory and enforce it.
Oh god this would be the best thing ever.
Please do this. |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
EVE Animal Control
57
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Posted - 2012.04.15 03:54:00 -
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shut up sometimes OP.
I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |
Vran DalEsra
Vicious Trading Company
Assassin Confederacy
4
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Posted - 2012.04.15 03:57:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:SOV should apply to high, low and null-sec. The corporation / alliance owning it should determine the security status. And even the Empire corporations will need to fight to hold their territory and enforce it.
I completely agree! |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
416
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Posted - 2012.04.15 04:09:00 -
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thatboydc wrote:Ai Shun wrote:SOV should apply to high, low and null-sec. The corporation / alliance owning it should determine the security status. And even the Empire corporations will need to fight to hold their territory and enforce it. Oh god this would be the best thing ever. Please do this.
A ratting attack on VFK.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
579
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Posted - 2012.04.15 04:30:00 -
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The influence system used in Incursions inspired me to propose this:
Influence sov system
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
219
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Posted - 2012.04.15 05:05:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:PVE to determine SOV, this will not end well.
Works fine for Faction Wars.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Ai Shun
643
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Posted - 2012.04.15 05:29:00 -
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Your link doesn't work but I like your idea. Throw that across all of space, especially because it would be easy to simulate the activity of NPC corporations to ensure that empire holds *some* space and ... I like it. I really do. |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2012.04.15 05:34:00 -
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This is completely stupid idea - worthy of masternedguy
But it would be fantastic fun to see it implemented.
Im in favor.
Wherever You Went - Here You Are |
Elzon1
Shadow Boys Corp
Bloodbound.
25
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Posted - 2012.04.15 08:10:00 -
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Weird, some time back I had a similar idea of using rats killed in a system to determine. If you want SOV in a system you should be active in it or in other words actually defend it not spam sov structures.
My system was a little different in that instead of a 24 hour period it took place over a week or so in order to determine SOV.
In order to challenge someone's SOV you would have to exceed their average NPC kill rate. Whoever kills the most rats during the challenge period wins SOV essentially. If an additional challenger (alliance) wants in on the fun it must exceed the current holders NPC kill rate. If the challenger accomplishes this they will be added to the currently running challenge timer as a new challenging alliance. This accomplishes two things. One, it prevents methods of blocking people out of claiming SOV by by creating artificial challenge timers. Two, alliances are seen as individual groups not coalitions. You can still pvp as a coaltion but can't effectively claim SOV as a coalition.
Three other things to add:
1. There is a minimum amount of activity needed in order to maintain SOV. If minimum is not kept, SOV falls to local NPC's.
2. Only the current SOV holder can collect bounties. This creates an additional incentive to SOV holders as well as creates an obstacle for would-be challengers.
3. An escalation feature should be added to SOV created anomalies in which the ratio of NPC's to pod pilots is kept constant no matter how many pilots show up in an anomaly. This ratio should shift every 15 minutes or so as it will need to increase and decrease the size of spawn waves over time. Essentially, this all means that if double the normal pilots show up in an anomaly, then the size of NPC spawns will double whilst spreading aggro to all pod pilots. This creates the incentive to pile as many people as you can into one system and promoting teamwork (logistics etc.). The spawn waves can also decrease overtime so smaller groups won't get slaughtered outside main activity times.
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Lord Meriak
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
7
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Posted - 2012.04.15 08:16:00 -
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Yes fw been a test for 0.0 so you recon it it will be fixed on next patch :D
Role it out to 0.0 as well.
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Avila Cracko
332
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Posted - 2012.04.15 08:55:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:PVE to determine SOV, this will not end well.
I still say corporations should claim SOV and not alliances.
This!!!
Then we will see how loyal corporations are inside one alliance...
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. |
Joran Dravius
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.15 09:47:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:We need to make sov more fair and balanced, because right now it just is broken.
So, I propose we scrap the entire sov system for nullsec and implement this.
To claim a nullsec system your alliance must kill more belt NPCs than any other alliance in that system. So if you want sov in ABC-123 and are DRONE ALLIANCE A, you must kill more RAT in that ABC-123 that day than DRONE ALLIANCE B kills in ABC-123 that day.
Also, if you don't kill a rat in a system that day, the system reverts to unclaimed.
By tying sov to the number of rats killed in a system we can guarantee activity in all nullsec fixing lots of problems.
Competition with other players shouldn't revolve around trying your best to avoid other players and ******* belt rat all day. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji
467
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Posted - 2012.04.15 11:12:00 -
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Can't really expect anything else from a care-bear I guess.
No, OP, just - no. How about you quit trying to ninja rat in nullsec and join an alliance? How about when you are in said alliance you stop being a fricken care-bear ratting during CTA's and other alliance ops, and pay attention to YOUR sov? Then you will realize just how much activity there is in null-sec. |
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Commander Vilcian
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.04.15 11:18:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:SOV should apply to high, low and null-sec. The corporation / alliance owning it should determine the security status. And even the Empire corporations will need to fight to hold their territory and enforce it.
Bring on the wall! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
226
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:15:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Can't really expect anything else from a care-bear I guess.
No, OP, just - no. How about you quit trying to ninja rat in nullsec and join an alliance? How about when you are in said alliance you stop being a fricken care-bear ratting during CTA's and other alliance ops, and pay attention to YOUR sov? Then you will realize just how much activity there is in null-sec.
I love people who comment on people they know nothing about. I've lived in nullsec many times and was always there for CTAs. I live in lo sec these days, however.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Alski
Natural Progression
13
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:32:00 -
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This would most certainly do nothing whatsoever to encourage botting. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
226
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:32:00 -
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Alski wrote:This would most certainly do nothing whatsoever to encourage botting.
Botting is against the EULA.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Dr Silkworth
Two Geezers in Space
13
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Posted - 2012.04.15 16:40:00 -
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eliminate sov in its entirety. and bring on 50 incursions a day and boost the penalties they bring to ratting and make some new ones for harvest activities. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
416
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Posted - 2012.04.15 19:58:00 -
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I can see why your name isn't "MasterMINDguy"
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Serene Repose
Perkone
Caldari State
589
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Posted - 2012.04.16 13:51:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:I can see why your name isn't "MasterMINDguy"
That wasn't nice.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
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Posted - 2012.04.16 14:00:00 -
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Question for you
Do you see this also stretching to the NPC corps? Concord wishing to retain SOV has to do ratting .... LOL
I would like to know how it doesn't seem possible for an alliance to put up two stations in the same system in null sec...
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Vyktor Abyss
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
113
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Posted - 2012.04.16 14:06:00 -
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This thread boils down to:
Mister Nerd - One of the biggest fail posters on Faction Warfare in Warefare subforum, turns his gaze on Null and failposts about that now in the General Disco.
Good work. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
233
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Posted - 2012.04.16 15:13:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Question for you
Do you see this also stretching to the NPC corps? Concord wishing to retain SOV has to do ratting .... LOL
I would like to know how it doesn't seem possible for an alliance to put up two stations in the same system in null sec...
Nobody cares about NPC corps.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3795
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Posted - 2012.04.16 15:16:00 -
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Im glad that people like masternerdguy exists, they make other people's ideas seem much more sane. Like alot of mine are.
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Bucksnorticus
Ronco Showtime Industries
10
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Posted - 2012.04.16 16:38:00 -
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I've always thought a change to the empire Security Status would be nice. High Sec systems that sit vacant for days or hardly traveled would have their status dropped, while hi population systems would have their sec status raised. Of course this wouldnt effect Null but maybe get the high sec carebears to move around. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
217
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Posted - 2012.04.16 16:45:00 -
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Ghoest wrote:This is completely stupid idea - worthy of masternedguy
^ This |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
103
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Posted - 2012.04.16 16:47:00 -
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These are several of the worst ideas ever recorded on the forum. Go Eve players. You get dumber by the minute. |
Averyia
Ciera Kimoto
37
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:15:00 -
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Why does the OP want to turn all alliances into carebear alliances (not that most of them aren't)? Why would we require carebearing?
All warfare is based on deception and logistics. Battles and soldiers are secondary priorities. |
Welsige
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:18:00 -
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So... if I understand correctly.... an alliance will end having to DEFEND the system rats themselves to keep SOV - yes lets defend the npc pirates! - , and on the other hand the enemy will have to figth rats instead of fighting other players over SOV?
God, stupidity can allways reach higher marks.
Yeah, tie pvp performance to pve results, totally makes sense.
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