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M'kie Zeletta
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Posted - 2009.01.04 18:42:00 -
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Problem
Noob corps are being used as a hiding place by unscrupulous players. Players can spy, can flip, attack while being hidden as a noob corp member.
Suggestions:
Players cannot enter .3 or below unless they are in a player owned corp.
Tax rate for being in a noob corp should be set at 10-20% to pay for protection against war dec's.
Player cannot attack others first, steal or do any other actions that may be deemed criminal unless they belong to a player owned corp.
Advantages:
These changes should result in new players wanting to join player run corps sooner, increasing their income and allowing them to explore all of eve.
No more 'unaffiliated' players being controlled by enemies.
All aggressive players can be legally war dec'd.
More large carebear corps will spring up, creating an interesting play dynamic.
Disadvantages:
New player will be upset to hear they must pay a high tax on earnings, and forced into a player run corp.
Finding a corp can often be hard for new players.
.. Discuss..
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Daewen Shadowmaiden
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Posted - 2009.01.04 18:43:00 -
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HandiWipesÖ
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.01.04 18:49:00 -
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 Originally by: M'kie Zeletta
.. Discuss..
CCP should rename "Features and Ideas Discussion" to something a little more obvious. Apparently people are not understanding the vague description for that forum and instead posting in General Discussion. 
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Julius Rigel
House Rigel
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Posted - 2009.01.04 19:02:00 -
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L2Suicidegank you wuss.
Scared of the events forum? |
Lt Shard
Shoot To Thrill
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.01.04 19:07:00 -
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Any suggestion posted in general discussion is ether sarcasm or the op is a troll.
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Discrodia
Gallente
Independent Miners Guild
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Posted - 2009.01.04 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Shard
Any suggestion posted in general discussion is ether sarcasm or the op is a troll.
Lies post is lies.
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Mari Katarin
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Posted - 2009.01.04 20:11:00 -
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So instead of a social channel where newbies are helped by vets we'd have hundreds of thousands of one-man corps. Turning eve into more of a massively singleplayer grindfest.
Excellent idea. I support this 100000%.
Consider corp-hopping for a moment and you'll see this idea is just bad for the game without ever providing you with the soft, untrained targets you seek.
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Kanya Nague
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Posted - 2009.01.04 20:42:00 -
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yay lets force all new players to join a corp asap so they probably end up in a bad corp with a CEO just milking its members.
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Spurty
Caldari
Technologic Dance
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Posted - 2009.01.04 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: M'kie Zeletta
.. Discuss..
CCP should rename "Features and Ideas Discussion" to something a little more obvious. Apparently people are not understanding the vague description for that forum and instead posting in General Discussion.
clearly you mean 'drop the word discussion from this forum?
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.04 21:09:00 -
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Problem - people post topics in the wrong section of the forums.
Suggestions - ban them.
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Grek Forto
Truth And Rage
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Posted - 2009.01.04 21:26:00 -
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What about the people that are in noob corps because they want to?
/me hears crickets...
Ok, seriously. Noob corps are fine. No one should be forced to be in a player corp.
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Scarlet Pimpdaddy
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Posted - 2009.01.04 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: Scarlet Pimpdaddy on 04/01/2009 22:45:24
Originally by: M'kie Zeletta
Problem
Noob corps are being used as a hiding place by unscrupulous players. Players can spy, can flip, attack while being hidden as a noob corp member.
Suggestions:
Players cannot enter .3 or below unless they are in a player owned corp.
Tax rate for being in a noob corp should be set at 10-20% to pay for protection against war dec's.
Player cannot attack others first, steal or do any other actions that may be deemed criminal unless they belong to a player owned corp.
Advantages:
These changes should result in new players wanting to join player run corps sooner, increasing their income and allowing them to explore all of eve.
No more 'unaffiliated' players being controlled by enemies.
All aggressive players can be legally war dec'd.
More large carebear corps will spring up, creating an interesting play dynamic.
Disadvantages:
New player will be upset to hear they must pay a high tax on earnings, and forced into a player run corp.
Finding a corp can often be hard for new players.
.. Discuss..
My troll-ey senses are tingling 
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Suicidal Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.04 23:02:00 -
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Nah.. Better idea: Don't change the current noob corps.
But, after a character is more than 3-4 month old, it will be moved automatically to an another "noob-corp" which can be war deced. 
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.04 23:05:00 -
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Problem
Noob corps are being used as a hiding place by unscrupulous players. Players can spy, can flip, attack while being hidden as a noob corp member.
Suggestions:
Remove Local
Remove Can-Mining
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Tanith Darkstar
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Posted - 2009.01.04 23:13:00 -
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Lets see:
You force people out of the newbie corps... then you wind up with millions of 1-2 man corporations that will burn your bank if you try to wardec equivalent of whack a mole with them
All they wind up doing is setting up private chat channels and coordinating by setting each other to +10 to prevent flagging...
Soon after you will be whinging about all the small 1-2 man corporations
Yes I'm a forum alt... deals with it :-P
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.01.04 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: M'kie Zeletta
.. Discuss..
Ending a post with "discuss" is the perfect final touch to flamebait. C/D (Discuss)?
Originally by: Khemul Zula
CCP should rename "Features and Ideas Discussion" to something a little more obvious. Apparently people are not understanding the vague description for that forum and instead posting in General Discussion.
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M'kie Zeletta
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Posted - 2009.01.05 03:07:00 -
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Wasn't intended as flame bait, and sorry I posted in the wrong place, I never even use the other forums.
I just wanted to hear people's opinions. Thanks to all who contributed so far. War decs weren't a big part of it tbh, keeping track of people in 0.0 was more important.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.05 03:51:00 -
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99% tax on every taxable transaction or bounty for any player with more than a couple million SPs if they're in an NPC corp (other than FW corps.)
If you implement this then people will still be able to dodge war decs via the protection offered by the NPC corp, but at great personal cost. That at least follows the concept of risk v. reward, and you don't have to resort to changing the game mechanics for NPC corp members in the way the OP was suggesting (not entering .3, can't attack, etc.) There's really no way to justify limiting people in those ways in a sandbox game.
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Tanith Darkstar
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
99% tax on every taxable transaction or bounty for any player with more than a couple million SPs if they're in an NPC corp (other than FW corps.)
If you implement this then people will still be able to dodge war decs via the protection offered by the NPC corp, but at great personal cost. That at least follows the concept of risk v. reward, and you don't have to resort to changing the game mechanics for NPC corp members in the way the OP was suggesting (not entering .3, can't attack, etc.) There's really no way to justify limiting people in those ways in a sandbox game.
And you shall have millions of 1 man corporations... vs being able to whinge about the big bad npc corporations.
Get a clue, the npc corps are here for those that are solo or small groups of friends and want to play in a style they choose.
And it's one CCP supports, because it pays the bills with all those account subscriptions.
Yes I'm a forum alt... deals with it :-P
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tanith Darkstar
Get a clue, the npc corps are here for those that are solo or small groups of friends and want to play in a style they choose.
And it's one CCP supports, because it pays the bills with all those account subscriptions.
People who'd cancel their sub if they couldn't stay in an NPC corp probably aren't contributing anything worthwhile to the game anyway.
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Tanith Darkstar
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Tanith Darkstar
Get a clue, the npc corps are here for those that are solo or small groups of friends and want to play in a style they choose.
And it's one CCP supports, because it pays the bills with all those account subscriptions.
People who'd cancel their sub if they couldn't stay in an NPC corp probably aren't contributing anything worthwhile to the game anyway.
Not your call.
course many of those npc corp players makes those pretty ships that everyone likes to fly... mine the roids to get the minerals for those ships...
But you miss the big problem with forcing people into player corps : They will become legion! Instead of being able to complain about npc corps... people will be screaming "omg! Put minimum corp member limits on player coprorations! There are too many 1 man corporations out there!"
Yes I'm a forum alt... deals with it :-P
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.01.05 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tanith Darkstar
And it's one CCP supports
Uhhu... It was never CCP's intention that so many people stayed/ are in NPC corp's.
(Got that from a dev).
Its completely against the MMO part of what they have created.
Originally by: AkRoYeR
...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die!
Best game ever!
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Tanith Darkstar
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Tanith Darkstar
And it's one CCP supports
Uhhu... It was never CCP's intention that so many people stayed/ are in NPC corp's.
(Got that from a dev).
Its completely against the MMO part of what they have created.
A dev.
the accounting department loves them. figure up the lost income should they change things to force people out of the npc corporations...
There have been posts in the past where other developers have said they have no intention of ever forcing anyone out of the npc corporations.
Everything you do in EVE is interaction in part with others, even missions since you have all that loot to sell.
And who says staying in an npc corporation isn't interacting with others in an mmo? A group of friends can operate just fine with a private chat channel and setting themselves at +10 standing..
Yes I'm a forum alt... deals with it :-P
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:36:00 -
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FW corps are NPC corps.
FW takes place in lowsec.
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Tanith Darkstar
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
FW corps are NPC corps.
FW takes place in lowsec.
shh! they don't want to deal with the FW players.... them there ships have guns!
Yes I'm a forum alt... deals with it :-P
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123GuessWho
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:51:00 -
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fail hidden troll!
of n wrong forum
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Gunnanmon
Gallente
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:23:00 -
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Posting in a pointless thread.
Not that your ideas are in any way bad (tbh I never read them, so can't say for sure), but CCP will not change how NPC corps are, they're scared to.
There, I said it.
The Ghost-training vote thread |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:12:00 -
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Is anyone seriously saying they'd quit if they couldn't stay in an NPC corp? Just asking that straight up since I've seen several posts possibly hinting at it.
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Tanith Darkstar
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Is anyone seriously saying they'd quit if they couldn't stay in an NPC corp? Just asking that straight up since I've seen several posts possibly hinting at it.
Some may, but what will happen is most likely:
The small group of miners in SAK in 'your' system suddenly becomes... 7 or more 1 man corporations and keeps right on functioning
Yes I'm a forum alt... deals with it :-P
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Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2009.01.05 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: M'kie Zeletta
.. Discuss..
CCP should rename "Features and Ideas Discussion" to something a little more obvious. Apparently people are not understanding the vague description for that forum and instead posting in General Discussion.
Sarcasm ftw. I lol'ed in RL.
As for the newb corps, I doubt CCP would ever make a change. I personally have no problem with them, but I think most of those people are missing out on a lot of Eve by not being in a real corp.
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