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CLOT SUK	Posted - 2009.01.04 23:46:00 - [1] I've heard that a properly fitted out blaster taranis is capable of dealing out crazy dps, and that using it kind of like a tackling incursus can make it a very effective weapon - capable even of taking on a cruiser. it seems especially suited for solo pvp/ganking. My corp mates tell me its risky and stupid, but it seems so tempting. Thoughts? Anecdotes?
Rilwar 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.01.04 23:50:00 - [2] It's a glass cannon. Taranis is capable of plopping out ~250 DPS, but you've 0 room for even a buffertank, IIRC. Obviously it's risky, but stupid? Only if you start trying to take on ships that are capable of webbing you, or somthing that just puked up 5 Warrior II's ---O-H--S-H-*-T---
vostok Minmatar Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.01.04 23:51:00 - [3] Well I don't know how good it is now, but its much better than an enyo imo... Almost as much dps combined with higher speeds and lower sig radius makes it a fairly nice ship. Personally I would go for a group fitting because that way you aren't likely to be targeted as a lowly frigate making your added dps even more dangerous. - Adaptation is not* an excuse for lack of ballance!* -
Elle D The Taco Stand	Posted - 2009.01.05 00:05:00 - [4] Edited by: Elle D on 05/01/2009 00:06:16 It's a pretty vicious little thing, but you WILL lose a lot of them. I lose mine about every other engagement, it's that fragile and I'm that horrible at this game. I use: Light Ion Blaster Light Ion Blaster Small Energy Neutralizer I (offline) Light Neutron Blaster Catalyzed Cold-Gas \| Arcjet Thrusters J5 Scram Named Tracking Disruptor w/ tracking speed script(this messes up vagabonds so bad) Damage Control II Mag Stab II Overdrive Inj. II 2xWarrior II 207 DPS 233 Overloaded 4106 m/sec 5864 m/sec overloaded *note: most will want a web instead of the tracking disruptor. Without a web you can be kited and killed by a lot of stuff fitting an Afterburner. I check my target out before engagement to make sure he has a MWD. Still, sometimes this just doesn't work out.
CLOT SUK	Posted - 2009.01.05 00:16:00 - [5] Sweet. how does it compare to an incursus fitted out similarly?
CLOT SUK	Posted - 2009.01.05 00:24:00 - [6] sorry I also forgot to ask how it compares with a crow thats fitted out with tech 2 standard missles? it seems to me that this setup is more survivable... but less DPS by far?
Letifer Deus A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.01.05 00:26:00 - [7] Originally by: CLOT SUK it seems to me that this setup is more survivable... but less DPS by far? Yep. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!"
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.01.05 01:50:00 - [8] Edited by: Stuart Price on 05/01/2009 01:52:02 HIGHS: 3 x Light Electron Blaster 1 x Small Nos MEDS: 1 x 1mn MWD II 1 x Warp Scrambler II 1 x Stasis Web II LOWS: 1 x SAR II 1 x MAPC 1 x DC II RIGS: 1 x Hybrid Collision 1 x Hybrid Burst Aerator DRONES: 2 x Warrior II Frags other inties and can handle a variety of larger targets. Will tank heavy missiles or larger, too fast for medium guns or larger (often while webbed into the bargain), nos keeps things ticking over long enough to complete the kill in the majority of cases. This setup has served me very well indeed. As long as you avoid light missile spammers and anything that can unleash waves of bonused light drones (an unbonused flight of Warrior II's can be handily dispatched before they take you out more often than not) as well as anything with a serious tank you should do fine. Thanks to your speed and agility, picking your fights is not exactly hard, although once committed you're almost always in it to the death so the real skill is picking the right target! Dropped frigs, inties, bombers, cruisers (Omens, Caracals, Moas mostly) and the odd ratting battleship with this. Could probably take out long-range AF's if you're quick enough but I'd rather not try it out of choice. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.05 02:10:00 - [9] Originally by: CLOT SUK Sweet. how does it compare to an incursus fitted out similarly? It would **** it sideways. My fun little gank fit is as follows... [Taranis, Blasteranis] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Disruptor II Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x2 Alternatively you can go pure dps. [Taranis, DPS] Internal Force Field Array I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x2
Joe Martin Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.01.05 03:13:00 - [10] Edited by: Joe Martin on 05/01/2009 03:15:06 [Taranis, MAPC] F85 Peripheral Damage System I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 5W Infectious Power System Malfunction [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x2 Rig it if you like. Dual MFS Ion setup is good too.

Gierling Gallente Viper Squad	Posted - 2009.01.05 06:50:00 - [11] If you just want pure portable damage dealing a Blaster-lyst is a better option. You can get up to 325 DPS without too much effort. Although buying Ion II's g3ets old its still somewhat cheaper then a ranis and does one and a half times again the damage. Also buffer tanks are inferior to the "most of the community thinks its not even worth shooting-tank" that a tech I destroyer has.
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.05 08:44:00 - [12] Originally by: CLOT SUK My corp mates tell me its risky and stupid, but it seems so tempting. your corpmates are wrong. but then again, to fly a b-ranis well you will need to lose lots of isk and pods first --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.01.05 09:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: CLOT SUK My corp mates tell me its risky and stupid, but it seems so tempting. your corpmates are wrong. but then again, to fly a b-ranis well you will need to lose lots of isk and pods first Ditto. Blasteranis is probably the most fun you can have in this game... After getting the hang of it and knowing what you can engage you will kill a ton as well. After that exhilirating I pwn feeling you should start soloharassing enemy blobs in it to add to the excitement factor and fun. :P ---
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:15:00 - [14] Indeed, forget that it's ceptor and fit it in that way of mind. In my mind it's more like a AF with ridiculous speed. Stop whining.
Barsexual Castle Greyskull	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Gierling If you just want pure portable damage dealing a Blaster-lyst is a better option. You can get up to 325 DPS without too much effort. Although buying Ion II's g3ets old its still somewhat cheaper then a ranis and does one and a half times again the damage. Also buffer tanks are inferior to the "most of the community thinks its not even worth shooting-tank" that a tech I destroyer has. What's the fit for 325 DPS taranis?
Galliana Foresta Fleeting Moments of Insanity	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:46:00 - [16] Originally by: Barsexual Originally by: Gierling If you just want pure portable damage dealing a Blaster-lyst is a better option. You can get up to 325 DPS without too much effort. Although buying Ion II's g3ets old its still somewhat cheaper then a ranis and does one and a half times again the damage. Also buffer tanks are inferior to the "most of the community thinks its not even worth shooting-tank" that a tech I destroyer has. What's the fit for 325 DPS taranis? 3 overloaded nuets with fedmatter, 2 hob IIs, 2 magstab IIs, 2 dmg/rof rigs. Gets me 329 dps with no implants.
Sean Faust Gallente Point of No Return Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.05 14:30:00 - [17] Originally by: Rilwar It's a glass cannon. Taranis is capable of plopping out ~250 DPS, but you've 0 room for even a buffertank, IIRC. The taranis has a ridiculous amount of hull HP for a ceptor. Slap a DC II on it and there's all the buffer you need. In a fight vs. any other inty, the only thing that should give you any trouble at all are other taranises, ESPECIALLY ones fitted with railguns. When flown by even a half decent pilot, a rail ranis will chew a blasteranis up and spit it out with no problems. Interestingly enough though, it's not as good vs. other ceptors as the blasteranis. I solo in blasteranis and love it. My fit is: 3x Light Ion Blaster II w/ offlined heat sink mod in utility high 1x 1mn MWD II, 1x Warp Scram II, 1x Web II 1x DC II, 1x Local Hull conversion I-Stab, 1x MFS II 2x Warrior II
kessah The Accursed	Posted - 2009.01.05 14:55:00 - [18] 3x Electron 1x MWD 1x Warp Scram 1x After burner 1x Accom SAR 1x EANM II 1x DCU II
Draeca Tharri and Co.	Posted - 2009.01.05 15:49:00 - [19] My favorite fit: High 3x neutron II Med MWD, web, scram Low Suitcase II, SAR II, MAPC ___
Gierling Gallente Viper Squad	Posted - 2009.01.05 16:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Barsexual What's the fit for 325 DPS taranis? Apologies, I don't think I made it clear. I was saying that for a pure damage setup a Catalyst (Gallente Destroyer) is better. You can get 325 dps out of a catalyst with all ion II's and two mag stab II's. If you add in overloading, drones, rigs etc etc etc you could probably improve that considerably (also you can swap out a portion of the ions for Nuetrons, they fit but I don't typically do that because its just too much hassle)

Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.05 17:00:00 - [21] Branises need to learn to stay away from AFs... Never came across a close range inty that could kill me. Long range ceptors give me the most trouble but they can't break my tank alone. Personally I feel ceptors should only receive 50% speed loss from Scramblers, or maybe 75% instead of the full 100%. They're just too obsolete for the most part now. Voluntold, New Webcomic
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.01.05 19:42:00 - [22] Edited by: Raimo on 05/01/2009 19:43:48 Originally by: Karrade Krise Branises need to learn to stay away from AFs... Never came across a close range inty that could kill me. Long range ceptors give me the most trouble but they can't break my tank alone. Personally I feel ceptors should only receive 50% speed loss from Scramblers, or maybe 75% instead of the full 100%. They're just too obsolete for the most part now. That's not a bad idea. A similar effect should also apply to all ships supposed to be using small or (especially) medium blasters. Voila, blasters are fixed! Though this doesn't really concern my Ranis... (But it does concern my Deimos, Thorax and Brutix) ---
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2009.01.05 22:12:00 - [23] The first time you pop some 'ratter in a battlecruiser using a Blaster'Ranis, you will understand why blaster pilots fly the ships they do. I tend to fly a Blaster'Ranis like a mini-Thorax; fit for gank, tackle, minimal buffer, and let your ships native speed do the rest: [Taranis, Thoranis] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x2 Requires a +1% CPU implant (it didn't before QR which annoys me) but it's fast, nimble, and spits out very good DPS. I haven't tried it against other 'ceptors, but against cruisers and such you should be able to do quite well. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
CLOT SUK	Posted - 2009.01.06 05:53:00 - [24] Wow. This boat sounds like a buzz saw. I'm sold. I'm tempted to do a few dry runs first in an incursus or rifter to get the hang of solo hit-n-run before dropping 15 mil per boat tho. I'm also going to try out a blaster fitted/light tank catalyst, though being clunky I guess there's no getaway potential at all.
CLOT SUK	Posted - 2009.01.06 05:57:00 - [25] Also... with a boat like this whats the point of flying an AF? better tanking? I know the Ishkur is hooked up with drones... but does it make a difference at 300 dps?
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.01.06 06:17:00 - [26] Edited by: Raimo on 06/01/2009 06:21:14 Originally by: CLOT SUK Also... with a boat like this whats the point of flying an AF? better tanking? I know the Ishkur is hooked up with drones... but does it make a difference at 300 dps? A gankfit Ishkur is a formidable alternative to the ranis these days. Worse speed but slightly better DPS and near double EHP. Ranis is still more fun though. Also, with your worse speed and FOTM status you will get less other solo inties tackled as many will try to bail. A bit less of those with the ranis(even though most should bail) and it's harder. (Enyo cannot really compete in the solo department with its 2 mids though it can gank a ton) ---
CLOT SUK	Posted - 2009.01.07 05:19:00 - [27] are tracking disruptors useless on a blasteranis?
Tarn Reis	Posted - 2009.01.07 21:12:00 - [28] Bump, muahahahaha.
Arnold Kruger Superior Systems	Posted - 2009.01.09 01:36:00 - [29] Edited by: Arnold Kruger on 09/01/2009 01:37:21 Can you really out-track medium guns in a blasteranis? I mean, it's not like you're orbiting with the MWD in. My experience has been that I get in 500-1000m, orbit, webbed, and then I'm dead. I'm tempted to try an AB+scram, small cap booster, SAR II, and ions. That way I can run the AB while orbiting, no way anything is going to track, then. Oh, and missiles **** the blasteranis :/ - - SUPERIOR SYSTEMS: BPO sales, research, copying, and delivery!


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