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Torin
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Posted - 2003.06.18 08:33:00 -
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Do planets and stargates revolve around the sun in Eve? Also, do certain events,such as comets and infested asteroids have a velocity through space?
Inquiring Eve-minds want to know.
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Torin
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Posted - 2003.06.18 08:33:00 -
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Do planets and stargates revolve around the sun in Eve? Also, do certain events,such as comets and infested asteroids have a velocity through space?
Inquiring Eve-minds want to know.
PIE, watch this space. |
Nevon
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:13:00 -
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Yes they do. Dont know about the comets and stuff but planets and moons do revolve.
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Nevon
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:13:00 -
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Yes they do. Dont know about the comets and stuff but planets and moons do revolve.
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Li'l Mol
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:17:00 -
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planets do revolve (on their own axis), but they dont orbit the sun at all they are all static. likewise for stations.
dont know about comets, but i would think these would have to have some kind of trajectory..
i asked this in beta and thats what i was told.
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Li'l Mol
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:17:00 -
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planets do revolve (on their own axis), but they dont orbit the sun at all they are all static. likewise for stations.
dont know about comets, but i would think these would have to have some kind of trajectory..
i asked this in beta and thats what i was told.
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Main
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:31:00 -
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It was common knowledge through out the forums before the beta that the planets did revolve around their star...i think. I definately heard a lot of people saying that they do.
There was one time when i did see a planet moving away from me when i was at a standstill.
Main
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Main
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:31:00 -
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It was common knowledge through out the forums before the beta that the planets did revolve around their star...i think. I definately heard a lot of people saying that they do.
There was one time when i did see a planet moving away from me when i was at a standstill.
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:47:00 -
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Do planets and stargates revolve around the sun in Eve? Also, do certain events,such as comets and infested asteroids have a velocity through space?
I suspect not, although I'm not certain.
I asked this questions a few weeks back and the overwhelming response was "no".
Certainly, since I started played on day one, it seems to me moons do not orbit their planet, because the route from one stargate to a particular plant passes by a very distinctive red moon which seemed close to the plant, so you'd have expected it over the course of a week or two to have moved, and it did not.
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Callas
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:47:00 -
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Do planets and stargates revolve around the sun in Eve? Also, do certain events,such as comets and infested asteroids have a velocity through space?
I suspect not, although I'm not certain.
I asked this questions a few weeks back and the overwhelming response was "no".
Certainly, since I started played on day one, it seems to me moons do not orbit their planet, because the route from one stargate to a particular plant passes by a very distinctive red moon which seemed close to the plant, so you'd have expected it over the course of a week or two to have moved, and it did not.
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Callas
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:48:00 -
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Yes they do. Dont know about the comets and stuff but planets and moons do revolve.
Yars...I'm afraid the original poster got his choice of words mixed up.
You can't *revolve* around a central body. You revolve around your own central axis. You *orbit* a central body.
The moons and planets revolve, but they appear not to orbit.
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Callas
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Callas
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:48:00 -
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Yes they do. Dont know about the comets and stuff but planets and moons do revolve.
Yars...I'm afraid the original poster got his choice of words mixed up.
You can't *revolve* around a central body. You revolve around your own central axis. You *orbit* a central body.
The moons and planets revolve, but they appear not to orbit.
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:53:00 -
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Please don't look at that man behind the curtain pulling levers.
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.06.18 09:53:00 -
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Please don't look at that man behind the curtain pulling levers.
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Griskin Thor
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Posted - 2003.06.18 11:29:00 -
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Actually, in astronomy, 'rotate' is generally used to describe objects spinning on their own axis, while 'revolve' is used to describe objects moving in circles (or elipses) around another object or point in space.
Oddly enough, Webster seems to think the astronomical usage of revolve is obsolete.. that revolve and rotate are synonymous, and can be used interchangably in either case. But then, Webster isn't exactly a rocket scientist.
In answer to the question, the objects in the EVE universe do spin on their axes, but do not appear to move in their orbits.. yet.
Griskin Thor
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>Lightwave Enterprises<
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Griskin Thor
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Posted - 2003.06.18 11:29:00 -
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Actually, in astronomy, 'rotate' is generally used to describe objects spinning on their own axis, while 'revolve' is used to describe objects moving in circles (or elipses) around another object or point in space.
Oddly enough, Webster seems to think the astronomical usage of revolve is obsolete.. that revolve and rotate are synonymous, and can be used interchangably in either case. But then, Webster isn't exactly a rocket scientist.
In answer to the question, the objects in the EVE universe do spin on their axes, but do not appear to move in their orbits.. yet.
Griskin Thor
Chief Operations Officer
>Lightwave Enterprises<
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Tru7h
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Posted - 2003.06.18 12:54:00 -
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just a little comment, when you press stop my ship your stoped compared to what? some galaxies move at the blinding speed of 200m/s if we were to truly stop planets and stations would overtake us. but they dont so when we stop were actualy moving at the galactic speed witchever it is
(just another thing that happens when you create a game without gravity (it would pull us along of we truly tried to stop))
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Tru7h
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Posted - 2003.06.18 12:54:00 -
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just a little comment, when you press stop my ship your stoped compared to what? some galaxies move at the blinding speed of 200m/s if we were to truly stop planets and stations would overtake us. but they dont so when we stop were actualy moving at the galactic speed witchever it is
(just another thing that happens when you create a game without gravity (it would pull us along of we truly tried to stop))
-Tru7h
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Greeble
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Posted - 2003.06.18 13:03:00 -
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Planets and stargates do not orbit their parent stars.
I don't know if planets revolve about their axes, but if you stay logged in long enough and any of them have a noticable period, and a texture-map to follow, you'll be able to watch for yourself. I would suspect that they don't, though.
Comets and such, I don't remember whether they have any velocity vector. Again, I wouldn't have thought so, though.
It might not be realistic, but it's CCP's design decision to make, and this is what they opted for.
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Greeble
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Posted - 2003.06.18 13:03:00 -
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Planets and stargates do not orbit their parent stars.
I don't know if planets revolve about their axes, but if you stay logged in long enough and any of them have a noticable period, and a texture-map to follow, you'll be able to watch for yourself. I would suspect that they don't, though.
Comets and such, I don't remember whether they have any velocity vector. Again, I wouldn't have thought so, though.
It might not be realistic, but it's CCP's design decision to make, and this is what they opted for.
- Greeble
Polaris BugHunter |
Griskin Thor
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Posted - 2003.06.20 08:49:00 -
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Tru7h, if you apply that logic to it's reasonable conclusion, you can never truly be 'stopped'. You can simply be motionless relative to some other object.
In this case the lies-to-gamers answer (like lies-to-children, the vastly simplified answers you give children when they as questions like 'Why is the sky blue?' and 'If the earth is round why don't we fall off?') is that you are stopped relative to the nearest celestial object. The real world answer is that since none of the celestial objects in the EVE systems move, you're stopped relative to the whole thing, or if you want to get really technical, your xyz position remains static and your vector drops to 0.
Griskin Thor
Chief Operations Officer
>Lightwave Enterprises<
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Griskin Thor
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Posted - 2003.06.20 08:49:00 -
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Tru7h, if you apply that logic to it's reasonable conclusion, you can never truly be 'stopped'. You can simply be motionless relative to some other object.
In this case the lies-to-gamers answer (like lies-to-children, the vastly simplified answers you give children when they as questions like 'Why is the sky blue?' and 'If the earth is round why don't we fall off?') is that you are stopped relative to the nearest celestial object. The real world answer is that since none of the celestial objects in the EVE systems move, you're stopped relative to the whole thing, or if you want to get really technical, your xyz position remains static and your vector drops to 0.
Griskin Thor
Chief Operations Officer
>Lightwave Enterprises<
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"Oh yeah? Well, back in my day we had to mine omber with our teeth! And walk back to the station to sell it. Up the gravity well. Both ways!" |
shivan
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Posted - 2006.03.05 04:06:00 -
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I'd also like to know if the dev are going to implerment this.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.05 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Griskin Thor
Tru7h, if you apply that logic to it's reasonable conclusion, you can never truly be 'stopped'. You can simply be motionless relative to some other object.
In this case the lies-to-gamers answer (like lies-to-children, the vastly simplified answers you give children when they as questions like 'Why is the sky blue?' and 'If the earth is round why don't we fall off?') is that you are stopped relative to the nearest celestial object. The real world answer is that since none of the celestial objects in the EVE systems move, you're stopped relative to the whole thing, or if you want to get really technical, your xyz position remains static and your vector drops to 0.
maybe its just my santa-less truthful upbringing... but you don't have to give the technical explanation to answer the question. a kid can understand that a prism makes a light go into a rainbow, and you can explain that the water droplets in the air have a similar effect, but only show the blueish colors most of the time, for example.
children lack knowlege, perspective and experience, they aren't stupid.
the semantic point in question... motion is definiationally relative to objects near it.
2 things moving in concert at 1000mph paralell to eachother aren't moving at all in relation to eachother(neccesarily) but they are moving alot in relation to the ground, or whatever.
... these things are rather simple and sorta high school physics sorta things...
like other infringements on real world physics.
simple answer: no, the GAME does not simulate that aspect of physics.
Roleplaying excuse: sure it does, but its not displayed to you(out of asthetics/convenience/relevancy) and/or does not occur in a way that is observable to you in the scale in which you'd observe it.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.03.05 04:41:00 -
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ugh, don't you have anything better to do then bump old threads?
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.05 06:10:00 -
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omg, I apologize for adding to it. I didn't even think to look at the dates... thats terrible! bad necroposting! bad!
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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Lord Pinky
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Posted - 2006.03.05 07:10:00 -
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If the Eve universe does start revolving as it should and stargates/planets start moving does that mean we can only use our existing bookmarks once a year?? 
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This isnt a flame of anysort nor is it aimed at any one person
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Doc Love
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Posted - 2006.03.05 08:28:00 -
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It wouldn't have a huge impact on gameplay as a player, but it would be an insane degree of complexity for the programmers. Honestly I think they are much better off spending their time on other things.
While we're thinking about it though, a little OT here but it really makes you appreciate what the folks at NASA are capable of when you think of the varying speeds of orbit of different planets, and accurately lobbing fragile rovers from earth to mars so they will land in a gentle descending orbit with bouncy airbags and proceed to roam around for months. Crazy stuff.
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.03.05 08:31:00 -
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maybe when planetary interactions come in.
CCP requested feature please - quite simple really.
For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed - |
aggiedog
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Posted - 2006.03.05 08:34:00 -
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Instas would be pointless if stuff actually revolved.
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