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indianaminer	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:15:00 - [1] CCP Do something about them there people(toons) that all they do is site in plexes and wait for the respawns and farm them. That's not fair to the other players who are there to run the plexes. Ya I know now all the people doing this will pop up espousing their reasons for doing this and they will all sound so sincere in their reasons. But come on they only reason they do it is for greed. They are to lazy to get out there and do missions or mine, or parish the thought ninji salvage. They just sit on the butts and wait for the respawns and farm them. The more the plex farmers try to defend what they are doing the more they make their reasons sound lame. CCP how about sitting a time limit on how long between plexes, ie you do one you have to wait 24 hours before oyu do the same plex. Sounds fair enough to me. Indianaminer
Gaia Thorn Villains	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:28:00 - [2] Edited by: Gaia Thorn on 06/01/2009 19:27:59 Originally by: indianaminer CCP Do something about them there people(toons) that all they do is site in plexes and wait for the respawns and farm them. That's not fair to the other players who are there to run the plexes. Ya I know now all the people doing this will pop up espousing their reasons for doing this and they will all sound so sincere in their reasons. But come on they only reason they do it is for greed. They are to lazy to get out there and do missions or mine, or parish the thought ninji salvage. They just sit on the butts and wait for the respawns and farm them. The more the plex farmers try to defend what they are doing the more they make their reasons sound lame. CCP how about sitting a time limit on how long between plexes, ie you do one you have to wait 24 hours before oyu do the same plex. Sounds fair enough to me. Indianaminer Ohh sweet irony u call them lazy that actually take the time to camp em for the stuff whilst u want it handed to you on a silver plater ?? 0/10 for this post
indianaminer	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:33:00 - [3] Ohh no no I want a fair chance of running a plex with out some jerk sitting there planted like a tree. I want nothing handed to me on a silver platter if i had my choice it would have to be a platinum platter. And there is nothing handed on a platter you have to kill something to get anything from a plex. So there no platters there. indianaminer
Ko Shimin Minmatar Independent Terran Empire Terran Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:37:00 - [4] Originally by: indianaminer CCP Do something about them there people(toons) that all they do is site in plexes and wait for the respawns and farm them. That's not fair to the other players who are there to run the plexes. Ya I know now all the people doing this will pop up espousing their reasons for doing this and they will all sound so sincere in their reasons. But come on they only reason they do it is for greed. They are to lazy to get out there and do missions or mine, or parish the thought ninji salvage. They just sit on the butts and wait for the respawns and farm them. The more the plex farmers try to defend what they are doing the more they make their reasons sound lame. CCP how about sitting a time limit on how long between plexes, ie you do one you have to wait 24 hours before oyu do the same plex. Sounds fair enough to me. Indianaminer I run plexses on a regular basis, guristas and sansha ones.. When I see a plex camper I just move to the next plex.. But I usually meet few such campers. I am one of those campers (in lowsec plexes), in the last room, but i do not camp for the overseers but for players
Gaia Thorn Villains	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:40:00 - [5] Originally by: indianaminer Ohh no no I want a fair chance of running a plex with out some jerk sitting there planted like a tree. I want nothing handed to me on a silver platter if i had my choice it would have to be a platinum platter. And there is nothing handed on a platter you have to kill something to get anything from a plex. So there no platters there. indianaminer Well race him for it park your fat ass ship there aswell and beat him to it ? dont see the problem you just want a source of income that allows u to warp to the plex go in shoot some rats and voila payday has arrivied. Im sorry if i seem harsh but the guy in the plez actually takes his time to sit there and wait for it to respawn whilst u warp in and ***** and moan cause u are to lazy to sit there ?
indianaminer	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:46:00 - [6] hmmm so moving around makes me lazy. WOW now there is a new take on moving around, your going to put all the gyms out of business when people find out that moving around is a bad thing. indianaminer
Gaia Thorn Villains	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:53:00 - [7] Originally by: indianaminer hmmm so moving around makes me lazy. WOW now there is a new take on moving around, your going to put all the gyms out of business when people find out that moving around is a bad thing. indianaminer Keep digging numbnuts .. u come here whine that people that take their time to camp a plex is lazy and cause you are moving around between several plex i guess and u cant take one u come on the forums and start crying for ccp todo something cause u cant farm the plexes yourself. geez this is whats wrong with eve today. Players totaly handicapped to solve matters on their own.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.06 19:53:00 - [8] Originally by: indianaminer hmmm so moving around makes me lazy. WOW now there is a new take on moving around, your going to put all the gyms out of business when people find out that moving around is a bad thing. My Troll Sense is tingling. We're Recruiting!
FunzzeR Counter Errorist Unit	Posted - 2009.01.06 20:23:00 - [9] I sense a troll attempt but I will bite.. If you go plexes with less populated areas (and not the ones that are 2 jumps out of mostu or dodixie) Its unlikely for them to be camped. Running plexes after downtime or when the server population is lowish (i.e. less than 30k server population) reduces the amount of competition. Failing that, there are a fair number of static 1/10 and 2/10 plexes that are located either in low sec or in high secs surrounded by low secs, again unlikely to be farmed. All you need to do is use your brain the way it was intended to be used and figure out methods to beat the competition, rather than whine about it.
indianaminer	Posted - 2009.01.06 20:36:00 - [10] Edited by: indianaminer on 06/01/2009 20:36:14 Out of the woodwork they come, Trolls the ones who camp the plexes. They will say anything to keep their golden eggs from being taken by somebody else. indianaminer

echohead	Posted - 2009.01.06 20:53:00 - [11] At lowsec plexes you have the option of killing the farmers...
indianaminer	Posted - 2009.01.06 20:53:00 - [12] And to clear something up the plex im working is the first plex ive ever tried. indianaminer
Leandro Salazar Better Dead Then Smeg	Posted - 2009.01.06 20:54:00 - [13] I kinda doubt that many plex campers are main characters. They are alts that go active when the owner knows the overseer will spawn, do their thing, and go inactive again while the owners play the game on their real chars till the next overseer spawns. It is kinda lame, but what can you do... Kinda why I never developed much interest in plexes and COSMOS. And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
indianaminer	Posted - 2009.01.06 21:01:00 - [14] Your probably right on that. Amazingly enough that thought never crossed my mind. Bit it would explain why they can just sit there so long. indianaminer ps as i was typing this the guy that was sitting there shot up the solar harvesters
Suri Akagawa Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.06 23:18:00 - [15] Forgive my ignorance, but I just got into exploration...plexes are fixed locations with respawn timers, a la EQ/WoW/every other fantasy MMO out there? I thought they came and went and had to be scanned for. I thought I'd left spawn-camping behind me in the kiddy MMO's. Hmmm :( ---------- "Money frees you from doing things you dislike. Since I dislike doing nearly everything, money is handy."
FunzzeR Counter Errorist Unit	Posted - 2009.01.06 23:34:00 - [16] Edited by: FunzzeR on 06/01/2009 23:33:50 Originally by: Suri Akagawa Forgive my ignorance, but I just got into exploration...plexes are fixed locations with respawn timers, a la EQ/WoW/every other fantasy MMO out there? I thought they came and went and had to be scanned for. I thought I'd left spawn-camping behind me in the kiddy MMO's. Hmmm :( No he is refering to the static DED 1/10 and 2/10 complexes scattered throughout high sec and low sec.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2009.01.06 23:35:00 - [17] The plexes the OP talks about are the static ones with a beacon in the overview, such as "Angel Creo Mining". The ones you're thinking of are exploration sites - you have to probe them down.
Suri Akagawa Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.06 23:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Mara Rinn The plexes the OP talks about are the static ones with a beacon in the overview, such as "Angel Creo Mining". The ones you're thinking of are exploration sites - you have to probe them down. Ahh, gotcha. I've not seen/done anything with these Plexes then. So much of Eve I've not run into yet. Thanks for the replies. ---------- "Money frees you from doing things you dislike. Since I dislike doing nearly everything, money is handy."
Venomae Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.01.07 05:33:00 - [19] Originally by: indianaminer CCP Do something about them there people(toons) that all they do is site in plexes and wait for the respawns and farm them. That's not fair to the other players who are there to run the plexes. Ya I know now all the people doing this will pop up espousing their reasons for doing this and they will all sound so sincere in their reasons. But come on they only reason they do it is for greed. They are to lazy to get out there and do missions or mine, or parish the thought ninji salvage. They just sit on the butts and wait for the respawns and farm them. The more the plex farmers try to defend what they are doing the more they make their reasons sound lame. CCP how about sitting a time limit on how long between plexes, ie you do one you have to wait 24 hours before oyu do the same plex. Sounds fair enough to me. Indianaminer Hehe, relax dude...
Lady Aja Caldari Ore Mongers	Posted - 2009.01.07 21:47:00 - [20] I always wondered if it worked like this... hang around long enough and it respawns.. i spose its steady income. personally i think its faster to do the plex. and rescan it back down in the constellation. potentually far more isk that way. safe spot a GSC in every system in the constelation and leave the loot in it.

Guerrica	Posted - 2009.01.07 21:59:00 - [21] We assume the OP is referring to the static 1/10 + 2/10 plexes. @the op, this is how all plexes used to be, imaging how annoying it was before exploration.
foobarx	Posted - 2009.01.09 03:27:00 - [22] @the op, this is how all* plexes used to be, imaging how annoying it was before exploration.* Yeah. I was once in a corp that "lived" a few jumps from a nice 5/10 plex. The thing was farmed 24/7. The farmers kept track of exactly when they killed the overseer and knew the spawn frequency. They would sit in the station until right before it spawned, warp to the plex, ignore all the other rats, and assassinate the overseer. Unless you were willing to sit and potentially wait for hours you could never even get to the second room, so for regular players who just wanted to do something different it was very frustrating. I think most of the farmers were actually people managing a "stable" of GTC-paid accounts that were selling the ISK for real money. They were doing it for a living. The current exploration-based system is 1000x better, since except in very rare cases it isn't worth the farmer's time because he can't specialize on one specific kind of plex.
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2009.01.09 22:15:00 - [23] Find plexes yourself (using probes). I've never ran into anyone else, even in the midst of high sec.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Frigateers	Posted - 2009.01.09 23:00:00 - [24] I don't understand why people do stuff in highsec and then whine and moan. Don't you realize that if you did your plexes (or missions, or mining, or whatever) in lowsec or 0.0, you can just kill people whose actions you disapprove of? That's the solution.
Rob Z0mbie	Posted - 2009.01.09 23:11:00 - [25] I call for the implementation of random plex DDs to clear out intruders.
B0rn2KiLL Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.01.09 23:12:00 - [26] Edited by: B0rn2KiLL on 09/01/2009 23:12:40 Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: indianaminer hmmm so moving around makes me lazy. WOW now there is a new take on moving around, your going to put all the gyms out of business when people find out that moving around is a bad thing. My Troll Sense is tingling. Nice alliance @ corp names edit: oh and logos too
Marius Deterium Caldari The Hull Miners Union Primary.	Posted - 2009.01.10 00:20:00 - [27] Why not just shoot the camper? --- Mining hulls for the juicy goods inside. Good...bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
Lightningshade	Posted - 2009.01.10 18:12:00 - [28] Originally by: indianaminer And to clear something up the plex im working is the first plex ive ever tried. indianaminer So what your doing is commenting on something that you've done once? It's just your lazyness that I think you are annoyed by. I assume youve done the plex and then left to find another? or do you plan to sit in there and wait for another spawn? If you continue to struggle, you could just quit. Can I have your stuff?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.10 20:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Marius Deterium Why not just shoot the camper? I agree, they will be in a frig, bring a few destroyers and GANK!
Wahjoo Minmatar Ghoulish Endeavors	Posted - 2009.01.12 22:13:00 - [30] Like others have mentioned, go find yourself a plex way out in the middle of nowhere, and chances are it won't be camped. I know of at least 5 plexes that fit that description in one region alone. Of course I won't tell you where they are, because it took some effort to find them "We were once so close to heaven; Peter came out and gave us medals, declaring us the nicest of the damned."

Shaen Vesuvius	Posted - 2009.01.13 14:35:00 - [31] Maybe something as simple as disabling cloaking in plexes would solve the issue. No cloak=probeable=findable=deadmeat. No point in cloaking in a plex other than keeping it from despawning.
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.01.13 14:45:00 - [32] I though static plexes were removed of game. Yet I keep hearing of this plexes also in Null-Sec... Just me, or I got something wrong?
Bo'Tox Amarr Arkor Inc	Posted - 2009.01.14 06:36:00 - [33] Edited by: Bo''Tox on 14/01/2009 06:41:13 I started doing a High Sec plex last night.... I'm going to change my setup a bit to do more DPS, but should I be killing and salvaging or killing, get dedicated salvager and return back? Reaosn I'm asking is that the spawns returned, sometimes whilst I was salvaging the previous ones (and no, I didnt kill all the rats, I left two at 35-40KM's and ignored them whilst I salvaged..... Should I just fix my setup to do more dps, then salvage quicker (salvaging destroyer?) How do others work the Cosmos plexes?
indianaminer	Posted - 2009.01.14 07:23:00 - [34] Wow cool this is still going. and to let everybody know i found plexes that were not camped so i finally got my first complete plexes that i finished. indianaminer
Xiao Endo Caldari Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2009.01.14 13:21:00 - [35] I was about to post in sympathy with the OP but then I noticed that he used the word "toon", so... never mind.
Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned B.L.A.C.K.	Posted - 2009.01.15 11:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Rikeka I though static plexes were removed of game. Yet I keep hearing of this plexes also in Null-Sec... Just me, or I got something wrong? I'm curious about this to, theres a system in cloud ring (PPG-XG) that seemed to have a permanent plex, it kept popping up messages when you warp to the gate into the system, very annoying as it's a semi major pipe and I missed a few kills as I'd have to waste time to close the damn popup before I could jump through the gate. It's called the Legends trial arena or something, there are also agents in space and celestial beacons all about the system, no idea what they do (Cosmos stuff possibly, never bothered with that in the pst so no idea how it works). One of the agents around the gate offered a corp mate a mining mission, blegh no thanks, I won't be wasting my time with that. https://www.pandemic-legion.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-8307.html Heres what I found googling for it, no idea if it's a plex or what. That link just seems to be what the popup says when you warp to a gate into ppg.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.15 13:44:00 - [37] You can find much better plexes using exploration. Guide - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=519470
the Entity testicular Fortitude Sherwood Forest	Posted - 2009.01.15 17:52:00 - [38] ive run 2/10 plexes in lowsec alot,and tbh ,the isk u make vs the 2hr respawn wait is pointless- go run missions or mine or something- sure if ur a lowsec dweller like me its good,but high sec? go get a fkin mission u lazy bastard
Stu Pendisdick Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.15 18:31:00 - [39] Originally by: the Entity ............... get a fkin mission ........... Does that require training Coitus to level V? :p
Havres	Posted - 2009.01.15 18:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Stu Pendis** Originally by:** the Entity ............... get a fkin mission ........... Does that require training Coitus to level V? :p No. You need it at level I to accept the mission. Level IV or V if you want to make some money out of it.



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