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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.01.08 21:13:00 -
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Well chances are Dr. E will never answer my question. So I ask the pros of market discuss. :)
Here is my question.
Jita is our main trade hub.
On Serenity... Jita is their main trade hub?
Is this due to being the most efficient place in eve; or simply due to having been influenced by TQ? |
Izodel
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Posted - 2009.01.08 21:17:00 -
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I recall from one of the EVE podcasts that more than one group of people have actually found that Jita is *not* the most efficient potential hub, even within The Forge itself. It is just where everyone goes. It evolved that way.
However on Serenity, they just picked Jita because it was where our trade hub is. :) I would be curious to find out if the smaller hubs are the same. |
SiJira
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Posted - 2009.01.08 21:18:00 -
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trivial question
who cares what their main trade hub is? if you want to make your own minitrade hub it doesnt take as much work as some would have you believe |
Izodel
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Posted - 2009.01.08 21:20:00 -
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 Originally by: SiJira
trivial question
who cares what their main trade hub is?
The asker does. Clearly. Scholarly or curious interest is to be encouraged. Please take your venom elsewhere. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.01.08 21:39:00 -
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Relative location to resources, players, and gate locations |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.08 21:48:00 -
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Jita used to be the best place to have a trade hub, it no longer is the best (it still is decent enough though), but the network effect has taken over as the main reason for going to Jita quite a long time ago... so even if it slowly becomes a much worse place to have a hub, it will remain a hub for quite some time.
The only thing that can dethrone Jita as main trade hub is a radical alteration of routes for the worse.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2009.01.08 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: SiJira on 08/01/2009 21:58:47
Originally by: Izodel
Originally by: SiJira
trivial question
who cares what their main trade hub is?
The asker does. Clearly. Scholarly or curious interest is to be encouraged. Please take your venom elsewhere.
please dont post off topic
jita still benefits from achura |
Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2009.01.08 23:38:00 -
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I remember when it was Yulia
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Aluin Chaput
Caldari
The Monad Family
La Cosa Nostra Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.09 00:13:00 -
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Interesting... Maybe a few of the big time traders should try and see if they can turn the most efficient place into the main hub...
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.01.09 01:41:00 -
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Quote:
I recall from one of the EVE podcasts that more than one group of people have actually found that Jita is *not* the most efficient potential hub, even within The Forge itself. It is just where everyone goes. It evolved that way.
Would love to know where the best is.
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However on Serenity, they just picked Jita because it was where our trade hub is. :) I would be curious to find out if the smaller hubs are the same.
The mission hubs no doubt.
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I remember when it was Yulia
That's what i figure. When traders were fighting over 10-15-20% place isnt that important. Now they are fighting over 1% so location-location-location. Yulai was likely just picked because of gallente-oursulaert proximity.
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Interesting... Maybe a few of the big time traders should try and see if they can turn the most efficient place into the main hub...
The problem is... if you do that... it might just lead to another system being destroyed... belts depleted, agents moving, missions not going there.
The devs should work out how to build a supreme high performance trade hub(no belts, no missions, no anything that causes lag). Then situate it to where it is perfectly ideal and most efficient. Then they could also implement a system to allow capitals and supercaps to be traded there also. |
Stardust CEO
Stardust Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.01.09 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards
The devs should work out how to build a supreme high performance trade hub(no belts, no missions, no anything that causes lag). Then situate it to where it is perfectly ideal and most efficient. Then they could also implement a system to allow capitals and supercaps to be traded there also.
This would be against everything Eve stands for.
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Aluin Chaput
Caldari
The Monad Family
La Cosa Nostra Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.09 02:43:00 -
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Your right Stardust... Which is why I want a group of player to make the new capital.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.09 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 09/01/2009 03:36:23
Originally by: Jason Edwards
On Serenity... Jita is their main trade hub?
Is this due to being the most efficient place in eve; or simply due to having been influenced by TQ?
YES it is (0:16:50->0:17:25 / 1:01:56)
And apparently, it's because of TQ 
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Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.09 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Athre
I remember when it was Yulia
You mean Yulai? |
Josie Kaiser
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Posted - 2009.01.09 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Jita used to be the best place to have a trade hub, it no longer is the best (it still is decent enough though), but the network effect has taken over as the main reason for going to Jita quite a long time ago... so even if it slowly becomes a much worse place to have a hub, it will remain a hub for quite some time.
Thousands of years ago, in EverQuest, the trade hubs were either Kelethin bank in Gfay or for some god-awful reason, EC tunnel, depending on server. Kelethin had the advantage of the bank near-by whereas EC tunnel was better situated in a central location but you had to lug your 20,000 plat at a snail's pace from Freeport and hope you don't die to a 3-foot fall.
I'm not sure what my point is anymore... I miss the good ol' days.
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Hostility Incarnate
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Posted - 2009.01.09 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Athre
I remember when it was Yulia
Originally by: Ricdic
You mean Yulai?
Such a display of pedantry is common coming from hoi polloi however I would've thought that you'd refrain from such feeble trolling when it is one of your partners/friends/mate.
I guess my teachers were right when they said poor breeding eventually tells. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.09 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hostility Incarnate
stuff
Appropriate name |
Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2009.01.09 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Originally by: Athre
I remember when it was Yulia
You mean Yulai?
Quite possibly - I ran a search from work and found some Dev Blogs spelled that way so I thought it was right.
To Hostility - I dont know, but I would think that being his head teller would mean something :) |
Hitomi Nakatani
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.09 08:02:00 -
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Jita became the main trade hub as it was at one end of the "superhighway" between Empires that did away with Yulai (meeting point of Amarr/Gallente space). The fact that Jita was on the edge of four different regions, before the current gate changes, made it easy to check prices too.
Now it's just a cesspool. :) |
Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2009.01.09 10:49:00 -
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This
should pretty much answer your question as to serenity..... well that came about after people had been playing for a while so it was just out of habbit
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Creepin
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Posted - 2009.01.09 14:50:00 -
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From my not so educated POW Jita may had become main trade hub because of some real factors, like location, trade routes crossing and the like, but now it's just "The Jita".
90% of players don't need some mystical theories on profitability, locations etc, all they need is a plain simple one-word answer, "what station should I dock to buy in one swoop everything I want at a reasonable price?", so even if devs made way to Jita 10 more jumps longer people won't even start thinking of making serious purchases somewhere else. |
Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.09 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hostility Incarnate
Originally by: Athre
I remember when it was Yulia
Originally by: Ricdic
You mean Yulai?
Such a display of pedantry is common coming from hoi polloi however I would've thought that you'd refrain from such feeble trolling when it is one of your partners/friends/mate.
I guess my teachers were right when they said poor breeding eventually tells.
Ahh yes, still in school. Nuff said |
Hostility Incarnate
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Posted - 2009.01.10 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Ahh yes, still in school. Nuff said
You got something against people still in school? Do you think that everyone in school is underage? Or is it that you are avoiding facing the truth. That your ego and pride pushes you to actions and behaviors that do you more harm than good?
Time and time again you let your own sense of importance guide you into acting boarish. Instead of being the voice of reason or concern, that you may think you are representing, you wind up being more like a swine at rut. Bleating, grunting, and just making a nuisance of yourself and generally being an embarrassment to that bank you badly represent.
To summarize, the obvious disdain you have for people attending school (be it elementary, secondary, or university) makes it clear that for all your in game success you may just be the unlettered fool you sometimes appear to be. |
inVictu5
Caldari
Black Rise Insurgents
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Originally by: Hostility Incarnate
Originally by: Athre
I remember when it was Yulia
Originally by: Ricdic
You mean Yulai?
Such a display of pedantry is common coming from hoi polloi however I would've thought that you'd refrain from such feeble trolling when it is one of your partners/friends/mate.
I guess my teachers were right when they said poor breeding eventually tells.
Ahh yes, still in school. Nuff said
Oh snap! You just got txt pwned by the EBANK elitists!
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Rebecca Tang
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:01:00 -
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i used to like in yulai when that was the main trade hub and i sat and watched that place die after cold war patch when they moved the highways between the regions.
jita popped up becasue it is cloase to lvl 4 agents has lvl 4 agents in system and is close to other regions with most people being caldari ingame ans sticking to caldari agents then the main hub was going to pop up in caldari space.
its a snowball effect the more people there the more on sale the more the prices come down the more people buy the more people sell.
i pesonally do not use jita much i prefer to use amarr or rens for all my buying needs |
Meha Mott
Minmatar
Carebear Research and Produktion Agency
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hitomi Nakatani
Jita became the main trade hub as it was at one end of the "superhighway" between Empires that did away with Yulai (meeting point of Amarr/Gallente space). The fact that Jita was on the edge of four different regions, before the current gate changes, made it easy to check prices too.
Now it's just a cesspool. :)
The best thing about that is, CCP told use that they shut down the "superhighway's", because they want to strengthen the regional trading market's.
And as a response they got the monster Jita.
Sorry for my bad English.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hostility Incarnate
Time and time again you let your own sense of importance guide you into acting boarish... ...you wind up being more like a swine at rut. Bleating, grunting, and just making a nuisance of yourself and generally being an embarrassment to that bank you badly represent.
I'm not sure whether this is a deliberate attempt at humour, a misspelling combined with a misapprehension, or the result of a conscious choice to use the word 'boarish' rather than 'boorish'. Please could you clarify?
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MailDeadDrop
Globaltech Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
I'm not sure whether this is a deliberate attempt at humour, a misspelling combined with a misapprehension, or the result of a conscious choice to use the word 'boarish' rather than 'boorish'. Please could you clarify?
I think Occam's razor indicates that this is simply serendipitous humor.
MDD
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:40:00 -
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Well, I'd classify that as falling under the ambit of the second option.
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