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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.06.18 19:33:00 -
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Mad,
Not insulting your percieved syndrome (ie dyslexia) but there is no such thing. It is simply a coined word that Pyschiatrists use to describe a form of illiteracy.
There is no imperical evidence to even suggest it exists. If there was then the drugs which "correct" these imbalances would work. Which they don't.
The reason psychiatrists have to label these percieved "illnesses" is to get insurance money.
A good example of this is the recent release of the double blind studies that were done on a popular drug called prozac. It proved that those who used the placebo (sp?) did as well or better than those who didn't. Yet all participants had clinically diagnosed "depression". Odd how this drug is still widely used and prescribed yet does nothing to handle ANY problem.
Do yourself a favor and don't buy into that program. The hospital I work at is filled with patients who have bought into it and it isn't very pretty.
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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.06.18 19:33:00 -
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Mad,
Not insulting your percieved syndrome (ie dyslexia) but there is no such thing. It is simply a coined word that Pyschiatrists use to describe a form of illiteracy.
There is no imperical evidence to even suggest it exists. If there was then the drugs which "correct" these imbalances would work. Which they don't.
The reason psychiatrists have to label these percieved "illnesses" is to get insurance money.
A good example of this is the recent release of the double blind studies that were done on a popular drug called prozac. It proved that those who used the placebo (sp?) did as well or better than those who didn't. Yet all participants had clinically diagnosed "depression". Odd how this drug is still widely used and prescribed yet does nothing to handle ANY problem.
Do yourself a favor and don't buy into that program. The hospital I work at is filled with patients who have bought into it and it isn't very pretty.
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Madcat UK
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Posted - 2003.06.18 20:38:00 -
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Thanks for that .....
But i work for GSK (GlaxoSmithKline)
and i,m involed in the R&D side of things.
Dyslexia is not some thing that you can get a drug for...........If it is i would be fixed...
sorry to say it is a problem and discrimal that i have faced all my live and will do till the end....
A lot of people treat you as stupid...
but if i'm stupid then how do you work out who is smart?
Exames ,test ,writen words,
the UK have reconised that Dyslexia is a problme of which can be over come by teaching the person to use other skills ........
and othose i have ....
just have to here me talk.
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Madcat UK
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Posted - 2003.06.18 20:38:00 -
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Thanks for that .....
But i work for GSK (GlaxoSmithKline)
and i,m involed in the R&D side of things.
Dyslexia is not some thing that you can get a drug for...........If it is i would be fixed...
sorry to say it is a problem and discrimal that i have faced all my live and will do till the end....
A lot of people treat you as stupid...
but if i'm stupid then how do you work out who is smart?
Exames ,test ,writen words,
the UK have reconised that Dyslexia is a problme of which can be over come by teaching the person to use other skills ........
and othose i have ....
just have to here me talk.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:01:00 -
[35]
Ok, let's not turn this thread into a thread about spelling and dyslexia.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:01:00 -
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Ok, let's not turn this thread into a thread about spelling and dyslexia.
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Crepiscule
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:21:00 -
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I have not problems with Player Pirates, but be a good one, why kill the customer, yes kill his ship but let him live so that he can come back with a better one again and again and again.
There are many reasons why you may want to pod kill another player.
1. Hurt them where it hurts the most. The wallet. Not only will he have to spend money on a new ship he will also have to replace his clone.
2. Keep the other guys skills lower than yours. This will give you an advantage in the future. Some people think everyone should be fighting on equal ground. I don't agree. Get every advantage you can. Skills, bigger guns, jump in points ect. As long as its ok with CCP use it.
3. For the sound.
4. As a pirate, bounties will be placed on me from time to time. If people want to collect they will have to pod me. I expect no less. You will never hear me complain about being podded by someone. The devs put it in the game for a reason.
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Crepiscule
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:21:00 -
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Quote:
I have not problems with Player Pirates, but be a good one, why kill the customer, yes kill his ship but let him live so that he can come back with a better one again and again and again.
There are many reasons why you may want to pod kill another player.
1. Hurt them where it hurts the most. The wallet. Not only will he have to spend money on a new ship he will also have to replace his clone.
2. Keep the other guys skills lower than yours. This will give you an advantage in the future. Some people think everyone should be fighting on equal ground. I don't agree. Get every advantage you can. Skills, bigger guns, jump in points ect. As long as its ok with CCP use it.
3. For the sound.
4. As a pirate, bounties will be placed on me from time to time. If people want to collect they will have to pod me. I expect no less. You will never hear me complain about being podded by someone. The devs put it in the game for a reason.
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Madcat UK
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:30:00 -
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Quote " For the sound. "
What you can hear us scream?
In space no one can hear you scream??
but the rest of your points are ok, rough but ok
I will try and stay out of your area.
PS where is it so i can stay a way?
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Madcat UK
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:30:00 -
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Quote " For the sound. "
What you can hear us scream?
In space no one can hear you scream??
but the rest of your points are ok, rough but ok
I will try and stay out of your area.
PS where is it so i can stay a way?
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Crepiscule
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:42:00 -
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There is a <splat> sound pods make when you destroy them.
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Crepiscule
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Posted - 2003.06.18 22:42:00 -
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There is a <splat> sound pods make when you destroy them.
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Argon
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Posted - 2003.06.19 21:41:00 -
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'Not insulting your percieved syndrome (ie dyslexia) but there is no such thing. It is simply a coined word that Pyschiatrists use to describe a form of illiteracy.'
I suggest you take a moment to examine the scientific evidence before making such an incredibly ignorant generalisation.
If you had bothered to use your brain in coming to that conclusion, you probably would have searched OMIM, and found studies listed (along with the science behind how dyslexia works) which demonstrated that the dyslexic brain differes fundamentally in the regions activated for linquistic tasks. The links to dyslexic specific genes, such as DYS1, combined with other studies on how we learn and process language identifies dyslexia as anything *but* what you describe.
'There is no imperical evidence to even suggest it exists. If there was then the drugs which "correct" these imbalances would work. Which they don't.'
I cant quite believe that you are able to post nonsence like that on a public foum where someone who knows what they are talking about might read it.
As someone who claims to work in a hospital, you seem to posess a staggering level of ignorance. Just because it is a physical problem doesnt mean that it can be treated. Obviously you believe that autism and downs syndrome are figments of the psycologists imaginations as well, as drugs dont work on those individuals to 'fix' them either.
'The reason psychiatrists have to label these percieved "illnesses" is to get insurance money.'
I dont understand how dyslexia could ever be a basis for claiming insurance money.
'A good example of this is the recent release of the double blind studies that were done on a popular drug called prozac. It proved that those who used the placebo (sp?) did as well or better than those who didn't. Yet all participants had clinically diagnosed "depression". Odd how this drug is still widely used and prescribed yet does nothing to handle ANY problem.'
And people who have dyslexia have the 'symtoms' before they are diagnosed. And just in case you claim that dyslexia is a reason for people to be 'acceptably illiterate' on account of being 'stupid' or whatever other moronic rational you decide to bring forward; all dyslexics are inteligent, and all posess hig IQ's, that is a pre-requesite for dyslexics.
'Do yourself a favor and don't buy into that program. The hospital I work at is filled with patients who have bought into it and it isn't very pretty.'
On the off chance that you can be bothered to engage your brain and actually examine the evidence, you might find that dyslexia is a real, tangible condition. I think, from what i have read however, you will not bother to go looking at the evidence - the scientific evidence - and will continue on your merry way.
I'm reminded of a churchill quote when i read your posting 'Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.' Please do continue on, but for those here who may be swayed by your nebulous posting, they should understand that the 'truth' in this case is that dyslexia is a physical trait, and one which has been detected and continues to be analysed by scientists.
For those who are interested the best places to start are;
For general info;
www.bda-dyslexia.org.uk/
http://www.bda-dyslexia.org.uk/
For scientific info do a search on pubmed, or use omim (mim number for DYX1; 127700)
Apologies to the rest of the community for posting this sort of RL stuff, but it really annoys me when someone posts something such as was posted before.
And yes, i also am a Dyslexic (please excuse spelling, punctuation and grammar errors.)
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Argon
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Posted - 2003.06.19 21:41:00 -
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'Not insulting your percieved syndrome (ie dyslexia) but there is no such thing. It is simply a coined word that Pyschiatrists use to describe a form of illiteracy.'
I suggest you take a moment to examine the scientific evidence before making such an incredibly ignorant generalisation.
If you had bothered to use your brain in coming to that conclusion, you probably would have searched OMIM, and found studies listed (along with the science behind how dyslexia works) which demonstrated that the dyslexic brain differes fundamentally in the regions activated for linquistic tasks. The links to dyslexic specific genes, such as DYS1, combined with other studies on how we learn and process language identifies dyslexia as anything *but* what you describe.
'There is no imperical evidence to even suggest it exists. If there was then the drugs which "correct" these imbalances would work. Which they don't.'
I cant quite believe that you are able to post nonsence like that on a public foum where someone who knows what they are talking about might read it.
As someone who claims to work in a hospital, you seem to posess a staggering level of ignorance. Just because it is a physical problem doesnt mean that it can be treated. Obviously you believe that autism and downs syndrome are figments of the psycologists imaginations as well, as drugs dont work on those individuals to 'fix' them either.
'The reason psychiatrists have to label these percieved "illnesses" is to get insurance money.'
I dont understand how dyslexia could ever be a basis for claiming insurance money.
'A good example of this is the recent release of the double blind studies that were done on a popular drug called prozac. It proved that those who used the placebo (sp?) did as well or better than those who didn't. Yet all participants had clinically diagnosed "depression". Odd how this drug is still widely used and prescribed yet does nothing to handle ANY problem.'
And people who have dyslexia have the 'symtoms' before they are diagnosed. And just in case you claim that dyslexia is a reason for people to be 'acceptably illiterate' on account of being 'stupid' or whatever other moronic rational you decide to bring forward; all dyslexics are inteligent, and all posess hig IQ's, that is a pre-requesite for dyslexics.
'Do yourself a favor and don't buy into that program. The hospital I work at is filled with patients who have bought into it and it isn't very pretty.'
On the off chance that you can be bothered to engage your brain and actually examine the evidence, you might find that dyslexia is a real, tangible condition. I think, from what i have read however, you will not bother to go looking at the evidence - the scientific evidence - and will continue on your merry way.
I'm reminded of a churchill quote when i read your posting 'Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.' Please do continue on, but for those here who may be swayed by your nebulous posting, they should understand that the 'truth' in this case is that dyslexia is a physical trait, and one which has been detected and continues to be analysed by scientists.
For those who are interested the best places to start are;
For general info;
www.bda-dyslexia.org.uk/
http://www.bda-dyslexia.org.uk/
For scientific info do a search on pubmed, or use omim (mim number for DYX1; 127700)
Apologies to the rest of the community for posting this sort of RL stuff, but it really annoys me when someone posts something such as was posted before.
And yes, i also am a Dyslexic (please excuse spelling, punctuation and grammar errors.)
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.06.19 23:42:00 -
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Ooops wrong thread :)
Edited by: agrizla on 19/06/2003 23:44:07
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.06.19 23:42:00 -
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Ooops wrong thread :)
Edited by: agrizla on 19/06/2003 23:44:07
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.06.20 01:23:00 -
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Dyslexia is off topic, next post regarding dyslexia will be deleted. Posts regarding this post will be deleted. Stay on topic.
Have a nice day
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.06.20 01:23:00 -
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Dyslexia is off topic, next post regarding dyslexia will be deleted. Posts regarding this post will be deleted. Stay on topic.
Have a nice day
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Danno
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Posted - 2005.12.28 13:57:00 -
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this thread has gotta be a prank... dunno about others but its easy to get sick of the pompous pontificators, who at every opportunity wanna try show they are intelligent
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.12.28 14:04:00 -
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2003 ftw
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2005.12.28 14:44:00 -
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WCS implants 4tw
I bet BE would play eve again
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News
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Posted - 2005.12.28 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Danno
this thread has gotta be a prank... dunno about others but its easy to get sick of the pompous pontificators, who at every opportunity wanna try show they are intelligent
Did it really take you 2.5 years to come up with this reply? 
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.12.28 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Madcat UK
Yes I hold an UK passport
I all so speak
French, German, Spanish, and a bit of Japanese.
But I'm also
Dyslexic.
And spelling in any language is very difficult for me.
But Dyslexic is a Gift.
Dyslexic people are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. We are intuitive and highly creative, and excel at hands-on learning. Because we think in pictures, it is sometimes hard for us to understand letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.
We can learn to read, write and study efficiently when we use methods geared to our unique learning style
So if i can not spell right for you Foreigners.
I'm sorry, at leastil I'm trying
also
Stick to the supject of the topic.....
Yours MADCATUK
:) I'm the same.. You know how hard it is as a FC to call primary from the overview !! You have to read it first... 
I give my boys a good lough sometime when I mix up the letters in names .... lol...
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Sheriff Jones
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Posted - 2005.12.28 14:57:00 -
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What if, you're just evil? Can one pod you then?
I mean, if you play a murderer, act like a murderer, would you call that guy a griefer for playing a part?
I understand where you're coming from, but i'd hate to see evil people being kicked in the teeth for being evil.
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.12.28 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hematic
Mad,
Not insulting your percieved syndrome (ie dyslexia) but there is no such thing. It is simply a coined word that Pyschiatrists use to describe a form of illiteracy.
There is no imperical evidence to even suggest it exists. If there was then the drugs which "correct" these imbalances would work. Which they don't.
The reason psychiatrists have to label these percieved "illnesses" is to get insurance money.
Its not a "percieved syndrome" Its a learning disablity. It also effects a lot of people in different ways.
It can effect you sight, your hearing, numercy as well as the more normal indicators.
I am not ilitterate and I have a reading speed that makes most speed readers sit in in a corner and cry their little hearts out.
I will take a rough guess and say You are from the USA, dyslexia maybe being over diagnosed that in its self does not make it a figment of the imagination...
Get off your high horse before someone takes both it and you down...
One ****ed off Dyslexic...
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but
why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the
problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2005.12.28 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Ok, let's not turn this thread into a thread about spelling and dyslexia.
OOps 
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but
why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the
problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
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Bournie
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Posted - 2005.12.28 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Davich MacGregor
Enfors, you are NOT funny. Do not make fun of people who are trying to communicate in something other than their native language. At least they are trying to make you understand which is more than I can say about someone of your ilk.
LOL Please check the op,s name i think u will find he is speaking in his native language unless uk means ne thing other than UNITED KINGDOM
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2005.12.28 17:23:00 -
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Necromancy 4tw.
Fun read tho. 
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Jim Hsu
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Posted - 2005.12.28 17:34:00 -
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Um.. how in the world was this thread found?
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If you're a math wizard, help me here:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=255750&page=1
:)
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Kroma BaSyl
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Posted - 2005.12.28 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hematic
Mad,
Not insulting your percieved syndrome (ie dyslexia) but there is no such thing. It is simply a coined word that Pyschiatrists use to describe a form of illiteracy.
There is no imperical evidence to even suggest it exists. If there was then the drugs which "correct" these imbalances would work. Which they don't.
The reason psychiatrists have to label these percieved "illnesses" is to get insurance money.
Scientology ftw!!!
Back on topic, I see no problem with pod killing as it isn't killing since you have a clone, right?
Kroma BaSyl
CEO - Snickers Inc
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