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Dabek
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:21:00 -
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So I still don't know alot about this game but I'm have fun playing so far. Im a little worried about my character starting stats. Caldari, Civire, Military, Entrepreneurs, Cha 6, Int 5, Mem 8, Per 9, wil 6. I see alot of skills with Int as the primary. Is my int too low? I have 1.7 mil SP invested in this char so far. |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:25:00 -
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Reroll it IMO. If I were you I'd put all attributes as even as possible, with Charisma as low as possible. |
Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Dabek
Cha 6, Int 5, Mem 8, Per 9, wil 6.
That adds up to 34, where are the other 5? |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:26:00 -
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High perception is good. Int could be higher, but that is fine. Unless you want to reroll your race, I would stick with what you have. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:26:00 -
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I object to the "roll" part… |
Eran Laude
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:33:00 -
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One does not simply "roll" into Mordor . . . |
JoDan Troikian
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:41:00 -
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agree with Bellum. Char is fairly useless atm. Int is second only to Perc IMO. Willpower will help with specialized ship training, etc. That low of Int is going to cripple you down the road. my 2 isk. Good luck. Akita T will surely have a comment here as well.
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Xindi Kraid
Cerulean Sky Fire Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:42:00 -
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That should be fine.
You only need to reroll if you did something crazy like set 10 cha and only 3 int or something.
That's similar to my build (my charisma's a bit lower) and I carry on with science and industry when not blowing things up.
Willpower and perception are used for ships andweapons, intelligence and memmory are used for electronics (ewar) and industry, charisma is used for trade and leadership.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:49:00 -
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Am I the only one who can count? Or am I the only one who's going nuts (always a possibility...).
Base attributes add up to 39, OP has only listed 34.
People who are saying (some of) the attributes are low: well - duh!
People who are saying it's fine: would you enjoy playing with 5 less attribute points?
Until the correct base attributes are listed, there's not much to be said about the usefulness of a reroll. |
Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:05:00 -
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shall you rickroll you character , i dunno but you can always give him the squirley bug
squirley bug is linked  take a look
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Dabek
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:05:00 -
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yeah im cant really remember where i put the extra points but i think it was 3 int , 1 per, 1 wil.
so 8 int, 10 per, 6 cha, 7 wil, 8 mem.
Not sure why i subtract my implants and train skills from my current stats i end up with 41 left over. I must be missing a skill or something.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: KISOGOKU on 11/01/2009 01:13:06
Click to '' My character '' at left side -->click to character portrait and -->XML data youll see your starting attributes under ''attributes ''
or use evemon and look to base attributes ,it shows base + skills +implants *learning bonus ,give base stats
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Astro Glyde
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:23:00 -
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I suggest you re-troll this thread.
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Thorin Marlow
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Thorin Marlow on 11/01/2009 01:33:05
cool thanks,
So my starting stats were Int 8, Per 9, Cha 6, Wil 8, Mem 8
Dabek |
KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:38:00 -
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Very nice attributes got my seal of approvale ,no need to reroll
Originally by: Thorin Marlow
cool thanks,
So my starting stats were Int 8, Per 9, Cha 6, Wil 8, Mem 8
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Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dabek
So I still don't know alot about this game but I'm have fun playing so far. Im a little worried about my character starting stats. Caldari, Civire, Military, Entrepreneurs, Cha 6, Int 5, Mem 8, Per 9, wil 6. I see alot of skills with Int as the primary. Is my int too low? I have 1.7 mil SP invested in this char so far.
No.
Overall, you use Percep and Will more. No matter what I rolled a char for, the bulk of the SP ended up in Spaceship command skills. Its a space based ship game. Only a smaller number of skills have mulitpliers above 8X and those are the ones that min maxing attributes matter in. They are? Spaceship command skills.
Keep your SP, train 5 and 4 on all the learning. Don't worry about it. |
Gunnanmon
Gallente
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 04:02:00 -
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Aye, why not. |
Warpfactor 9
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Posted - 2009.01.11 06:00:00 -
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I rarely see a case where one should start over. Take what you have, set a goal, do the skills necessary to reach that (short-term goal), then do the next one. No matter how the attributes are arranged, eventually you will need skills in multiple areas for a main character, assuming you are in the game for the long haul.
The only case where you would have a problem is if you only wanted to do a few certain specific things. That is why alts have specific skill sand thus specif attributes to start. If you only wanted to be EVE's best trading tycoon, then you don't need many skills in many areas. If you only wanted to fly mid and high level ships and blow stuff up, you don't need many industry, science, and other skills in multiple areas. If you only planned on playing a month and then move on to another game, then you want specific attributes to start for a specific type of play.
However, if you plan on being a long time player and carve out your niche in Eden, then don't let anybody tell you to start over. Go with it and develop as you see go.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.11 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: JoDan Troikian
Akita T will surely have a comment here as well.
Mostly just Linkage
Originally by: Thorin Marlow
So my starting stats were Int 8, Per 9, Cha 6, Wil 8, Mem 8
Looks decent enough to not be worth creating a new one at this time.
Later on, if you decide on a particular style (if you decide fast enough), probably worth creating another one.
Or just an additional one. Or just buy another one with loads more SP.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.11 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Thorin Marlow
cool thanks,
So my starting stats were Int 8, Per 9, Cha 6, Wil 8, Mem 8
Dabek
Pretty much perfect (unless you really really want to min/max).
It are the same attributes I settled on for myself after careful consideration  |
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.01.11 08:53:00 -
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If (race/bloodline =/= Caldari/Achura) then (reroll = yes).
At only 1.7 million SP (less than 1 million after character creation), you will be much better off in the long run if you switch to Achura and put your points into Int/Per (roughly even split). |
Furb Killer
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.11 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
If (race/bloodline =/= Caldari/Achura) then (reroll = yes).
At only 1.7 million SP (less than 1 million after character creation), you will be much better off in the long run if you switch to Achura and put your points into Int/Per (roughly even split).
It will take ages to get more SP by now making a new account, especially since his attributes are fine. |
Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.11 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
At only 1.7 million SP (less than 1 million after character creation), you will be much better off in the long run if you switch to Achura and put your points into Int/Per (roughly even split).
Very long run. Increasing three attributes by 4% (after learning etc) only has a minor effect. It'll take over 2 years for the rerolled character to get more SP than this character (if it continues training) - longer if the rerolled character trains any Charisma-based skills.
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C4LYP50
Solarwind Interstellar Mining and Production Ltd
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Posted - 2009.01.11 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
At only 1.7 million SP (less than 1 million after character creation), you will be much better off in the long run if you switch to Achura and put your points into Int/Per (roughly even split).
Very long run. Increasing three attributes by 4% (after learning etc) only has a minor effect. It'll take over 2 years for the rerolled character to get more SP than this character (if it continues training) - longer if the rerolled character trains any Charisma-based skills.
Apologies for the "pyramid", but whilst the theory may be ok, in practical terms Sera is correct. My first character had stats simialr to yours. At 2 months in, I started this character (separate account). 10 months later, C4 has almost 2 million MORE SP than her predecessor, who actually trains for industry and trade (where higher charisma is an advantage).
Results may vary, of course, but the primary reason there are so many Achura is due to the starting stats, which place you in a good position for most ship skills.
And besides...Achura men...........to die for 
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Estel Arador on 11/01/2009 20:00:48
Originally by: C4LYP50
Apologies for the "pyramid", but whilst the theory may be ok, in practical terms Sera is correct.
What works in theory works in practice, unless your theory is wrong. I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation to show roughly how long it would take for a reroll to be worth it. If you want to counter that, the proper way to do so would be by challenging the assumptions or the calculations.
Presenting an anecdote says nothing, especially if it's completely irrelevant, as in your case. It is irrelevant for two reasons:
1) "Stats similar to yours" means "different stats" (at least that's how I read it) - of course you're going to get different results!
2) The characters you're comparing are training different skills - you are not comparing which is overall better (which would be relevant when deciding to reroll).
OP is not asking whether he can train other skills faster by rerolling, he's asking if he can do the same faster. The answer is not "In some cases as in mine it is worth it", the answer is: "If you stick around for at least a few years, but the first two years you'll actually be behind by rerolling." |
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