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Cyrus Brown
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Posted - 2009.01.11 17:13:00 -
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Zealot is overpowered. Amarr is overpowered. CCP, do something already. How slow are you to react to imbalances? Seriously!
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Once, there was a beautiful cruiser, a heavy assault cruiser, one of a new generation of tech 2 ships. It had four turrets, powerful fast-tracking lasers, and the firepower to melt heavily tanked battleships without breaking a sweat. But the people cried out, for the cruiser seared their ringpieces and haulers with ease; lasers were nerfed, hit-points were multiplied, and the poor cruiser lost its teeth.
But, as with all things, time undoes the folly of men. The grumblings of dedicated Zealot specialists, coupled with an extensive kidnapping/blackmail campaign conducted by the Guiding Hand Social Club, targeting certain CCP employees (Reynir, your beloved pet budgie is unharmed; Oveur, the pictures have been destroyed) - the Zealot regained its bite. The fifth turret turned it into what it was meant to be - a zone denial platform using beams for point offense, or even a pulse hunter for swatting interceptors out of the sky. Rejoice.
Hear hear!
Hey, was the stacking penalty introduced before or after the Zealot was introduced? Was there ever an opportunity for a *gasp* 7 heatsink Zealot? __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:31:00 -
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i think the problem will start to be that everything has been too over nerfed, ccp must nerf 2-1 or 3-1 what they boost. It isnt that the zealot is overpowered its that everything else has been nerfed to hell and besides the falcon its the only ship left that does its job well. |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:39:00 -
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it's just the low slots with tracking enhancers. lasers started their conquest the day they came up with scripts *hug flashlights*
just that nano stole the show until "recently" - putting the gist back into logistics |
Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:42:00 -
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oomph my zealot it needs drone bay
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Asestorian
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri Hey, was the stacking penalty introduced before or after the Zealot was introduced? Was there ever an opportunity for a *gasp* 7 heatsink Zealot?
I don't know for sure but I do remember some people complaining that the huge number of low slots on the Zealot were worthless because there was nothing to put in them without a huge pile of heat sinks. |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Originally by: Terianna Eri Hey, was the stacking penalty introduced before or after the Zealot was introduced? Was there ever an opportunity for a *gasp* 7 heatsink Zealot?
I don't know for sure but I do remember some people complaining that the huge number of low slots on the Zealot were worthless because there was nothing to put in them without a huge pile of heat sinks.
Eh, what? You woke up shortly thereafter and rushed to the forums I'm sure. It never happened... |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 11/01/2009 20:30:44
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Misanth Supply, demand, weekend, lots of FotM-nubs have just finished their Amarr Cruiser 5 since QR.
Pilgrim is much more the flavor of the month post-QR, imo
Really? Huh. I though the Zealot would be wanted more :P.
Originally by: Cyrus Brown Zealot is overpowered. Amarr is overpowered. CCP, do something already. How slow are you to react to imbalances? Seriously!
Wrong! Try and understand the game a bit ;) Blaster do however need a little buff imo :P |
Joe Martin
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:35:00 -
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I'm still completely at a loss to explain how Amarr were **** 6 months ago but have suddenly become ridiculously OP.
Go go forum groupthink. |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Martin I'm still completely at a loss to explain how Amarr were **** 6 months ago but have suddenly become ridiculously OP.
Go go forum groupthink.
Amarr got Pulse T2 wiht that T2 ammo we all love :). But thats basically it.
They are overall decent, but far from overpowerd. |
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Joe Martin I'm still completely at a loss to explain how Amarr were **** 6 months ago but have suddenly become ridiculously OP.
Go go forum groupthink.
Amarr got Pulse T2 wiht that T2 ammo we all love :). But thats basically it.
They are overall decent, but far from overpowerd.
And the Apoc got a huge boost. And the new Khanid ships... |
Joe Martin
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Martin on 11/01/2009 20:43:07
Originally by: Malcanis And the Apoc got a huge boost. And the new Khanid ships...
You mean they made the apoc not entirely useless.
And the missile changes kind of re-nerfed Khanid ships. Rockets are more useless than ever, now. The sac can still tank well, but it's DPS leaves a lot to be desired compared to another HACs. |
Grath Telkin
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.11 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrus Brown Zealot is overpowered. Amarr is overpowered. CCP, do something already. How slow are you to react to imbalances? Seriously!
get out ***got, now
people like you ruin the game, instead of buffing the other races, you cry "OH ITS OVERPOWERED, NERF IT". The only thing that really changed bout the zealot was it got an extra turrent. BFD. Most of the other hac's had 5 hard points for turrents.
So what is it thats overpowered about amarr? Could you name some things please that are overpowered about them so i can calmly call you all kinds of names refuting your every little whimper? |
Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.11 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Cyrus Brown Zealot is overpowered. Amarr is overpowered. CCP, do something already. How slow are you to react to imbalances? Seriously!
get out ***got, now
people like you ruin the game, instead of buffing the other races, you cry "OH ITS OVERPOWERED, NERF IT". The only thing that really changed bout the zealot was it got an extra turrent. BFD. Most of the other hac's had 5 hard points for turrents.
So what is it thats overpowered about amarr? Could you name some things please that are overpowered about them so i can calmly call you all kinds of names refuting your every little whimper?
Sacrilege Tank -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Cyrus Brown Zealot is overpowered. Amarr is overpowered. CCP, do something already. How slow are you to react to imbalances? Seriously!
get out ***got, now
people like you ruin the game, instead of buffing the other races, you cry "OH ITS OVERPOWERED, NERF IT". The only thing that really changed bout the zealot was it got an extra turrent. BFD. Most of the other hac's had 5 hard points for turrents.
So what is it thats overpowered about amarr? Could you name some things please that are overpowered about them so i can calmly call you all kinds of names refuting your every little whimper?
This. |
Grarr Dexx
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Antimony Noske
Originally by: Vaal Erit Shame about the drone bay.
I'd love to have a drone bay on the zealot. Even just a 15m3 one. Scrambling frigates can be a pain in the ass on missions without drones to kill them.
Zealot. Missions. |
Antimony Noske
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Posted - 2009.01.11 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Zealot. Missions.
It's pretty fun actually. Faster than doing them with a Harbinger too. |
IonHammer
Minmatar Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2009.01.11 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrus Brown Zealot is overpowered. Amarr is overpowered. CCP, do something already. How slow are you to react to imbalances? Seriously!
well i have flown amar hacs for a long time and honestly I guess your going to have to wait a year or so.
This is payback for all those years when lasers sucked.
If thats your real life i'm very jealous - Petwraith |
doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.01.11 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 11/01/2009 22:40:13
Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Vaal Erit 7 lows on a cruiser hull. 7 lows. It can snipe or go short range or tank while maintaining decent speed. One of the best HACs post QR. Shame about the drone bay.
Or you can load it down with cargo expanders and haul expensive stuff safely.
Not that I'd do that.
Totally safe tbh.
At least until I scan you. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2 Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 11/01/2009 22:40:13
Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Vaal Erit 7 lows on a cruiser hull. 7 lows. It can snipe or go short range or tank while maintaining decent speed. One of the best HACs post QR. Shame about the drone bay.
Or you can load it down with cargo expanders and haul expensive stuff safely.
Not that I'd do that.
Totally safe tbh.
At least until I scan you.
hehe silly pilot... that's what Pilgrims are for!
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Joe Martin
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Concorduck Sacrilege Tank
Sacrilege DPS.
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Captator
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:11:00 -
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Awesome post Istvaan
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.01.12 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Martin
Originally by: Concorduck Sacrilege Tank
Sacrilege DPS.
Sacrilege can actually manage like a 400 dps tank / 400 dps output, not really seeing the problem here.
I hate it though because it's first of all ugly, and second because missiles are poo for hitting things. Also the high damage ammo nerfs your cap recharge. :( |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.12 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Martin Edited by: Joe Martin on 11/01/2009 20:50:27 Edited by: Joe Martin on 11/01/2009 20:43:07
Originally by: Malcanis And the Apoc got a huge boost. And the new Khanid ships...
You mean they made the apoc not entirely useless.
And the missile changes kind of re-nerfed Khanid ships. Rockets are more useless than ever, now. The sac can still tank well, but it's DPS leaves a lot to be desired compared to another HACs.
EDIT: And at that, those changes happened YEARS ago. Why have those suddenly been added to the "OP'd Amarr Stuff" list?
The Sac do pretty decent if fitted right. You need at least two BCU's tho :). But yeah, rockets suck now, hard. Even teh Hawk is a bad ship with rockets.
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DJTheBaron
Caldari FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.01.12 15:00:00 -
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This is why zealot prices have sky rocketed
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/454/
"The Views & Opinions Expressed In This Post Represent Your Own, So Dont Bother Arguing" DJTheBaron: Diplomacy 4TW |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.01.12 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs The Sac do pretty decent if fitted right. You need at least two BCU's tho :). But yeah, rockets suck now, hard. Even teh Hawk is a bad ship with rockets.
Please, the Hawk was always terrible . __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Thea Arsoniztik
Red Tides Viewer Discretion Advised
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Posted - 2009.01.12 16:23:00 -
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Factoring in the price of invention, then how much more isk does it actually take to construct this ship? |
Skerrd
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Posted - 2009.01.12 16:33:00 -
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Not sure if it's related, but the Navy Omen price has also increased around the same time.
Apparently last friday all Zealots below 90mil were bought at Domain and other main 4 rubs, or at least that's what I noticed.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.12 16:40:00 -
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Zealot doesn't have drones? Never flew it, went from a sac to abso and too lazy to login now XD |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.01.12 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: DJTheBaron This is why zealot prices have sky rocketed
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/454/
personally i favor the last participant on the "enemy" side
but yes, the tank-less beam zealot is lovely - until a bunch heads out against fleet bs -.- |
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