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Vandria Starfire
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:09:00 -
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Hello everyone!
A bit of a new player here. I know that Eve is full of trading and pirates and corp battles...but I was wondering. What is the real fun of eve? Is it the glue that keep you coming back?
Oh and what are some fun activities that a newb like me can participate in?
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Bo'Tox
Amarr
Arkor Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:43:00 -
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Personally I dont get much time and when I do I dont want to be donig what other people tell me I HAVE to do (I.e. Corp and Corp battles, etc), so I mine and do missions. I'll mine for the corp and provide Ice for corps but since I'm stilll trying to get my skills to a point I'm happy with then I'll leave PvP battles for a while.
(Not that I'm rubbish, but I'd be happier once I've got Tech Two Gunnery skills for my cruiser!)
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2009.01.12 00:20:00 -
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Making your own ships and then flying them is fun.
Creating a corporation and recruiting members is fun.
Setting your own goals and then achieving them is fun.
The most fun though is blowing up others' ships, shattering their corporations, and denying them their goals. Yes, the competition and the tears make it all worthwhile!
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gfldex
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.01.12 00:25:00 -
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The people I play with.
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There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Public Funded War Targets
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Posted - 2009.01.12 00:30:00 -
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The PVP combat is the most fun in the end.
But you need to be able to finance that.
Joining a good corp is always wise.
Basically do whatever takes your fancy.
- (ninja) salvaging
- mining
- missions
- FW
- trading
- piracy
- hauling
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Dani SP
Caldari
Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.01.12 00:40:00 -
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I don't find PVP fun, since I am unexperienced and always end up OWNED. (being owned is never funny hehe) I guess sometime in the future I will be an expert and then PVP will be the funniest activity for me. But not now!
Most parts of eve gameplay are repetitive, so I think that varying them and organizing your gameplay is essential in order not to get BORED. I mean, usually my mates and me mine after downtime, then do some missions and finally some tradings/logistics. Other times we recruit people or just chat.
If we did the same thing ALL the time, I guess we would go crazy. But hey, some dudes are happy staring at their yellow mining lasers for 15 hours per day  (same for some pirates waiting hours for a noob with autopilot engaged) 
Daniel, 24, from Spain. Have fun and fly safe =) |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
MasterBlasters Inc.
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.12 01:32:00 -
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I keep playing because if I stop all these jackasses will be better than me  |
Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.12 15:45:00 -
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fun, you want fun, "internet spaceships are serious business" not fun.....
that said, what ever you think is fun is fun, eve gives you nothing but opportunities you gotta make your owm fun in your own way.
(but remember most fun results in someone going home in a pod or waking up in a clone vat so make sure u got the ISK's covered)
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Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.12 16:50:00 -
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The Community
"The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel." |
Tai Paktu
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.12 19:51:00 -
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I enjoy destroying internet spaceships, looting their e-contents, the curses and real-life threats levied by their former owners and engaging in acts of internet extortion. I also enjoy chatting with the people I've met through these activities. |
Dedalus77
Junkyard Dogs
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Posted - 2009.01.12 21:54:00 -
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Personally I enjoy salvaging and it's something a new player can get into pretty easily as the ships and modules you need are not expensive and do not require all that much in skills to operate at a base level. Plus, the income is pretty good for a starting player. If salvaging is something you enjoy (like I do) you can then spend lots of time and isk honing your craft, if not, you haven't lost much time or isk and can move on to something else.
That said, salvaging isn't the only thing I do, but I'm not giving up all my secrets, this is EVE after all. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.12 21:56:00 -
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what is the fun of any other game?
I blow stuff up with a bunch of crazy people.  |
Tandin
The Knights Templar
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.01.12 22:00:00 -
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 Originally by: gfldex
The people I play with.
^^ this.. Eve is a social game and most of the enjoyment comes from the interactions with other people. I enjoy teaching people and helping noobs while other people enjoy blowing up noobs and watching them cry. There are niches for everybody in this game. Either way, it's the guys (and ladies) you fly with that make it worth logging back on each day.
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Adaera
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Posted - 2009.01.13 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
The people I play with.
This.
They were the reason my "I wonder what this game is like..." trial became a subscription. |
Cyprus Black
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.13 00:38:00 -
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The fact that it's currently the best sci-fi MMO on the market (maybe soon to be the only one).
And that it's not WoW. |
Sagacious Z
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.13 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Sagacious Z on 13/01/2009 06:00:28
Unlike some games, there is no finite end point. A big "VICTORY" or "DEFEAT" does not splash on your screen, then you start the game over and play it again, and again.
In EVE, you live a continuous life. There is no finite endpoint. This is why the game is so awesome. If you do not have a goal, which is constantly updated, then you lose direction on "what do I do now".
There is always a better way to pirate, a bigger profit to be made, a higher kill ratio to earn, a larger "most ISK in one day" to be achieved, a better starship captain out there than you are to be challenged, a corporation to join to make it bigger and better, a better way to gather intelligence of your immediate area, new partnerships to be formed and friends or enemies to be made, etc. Set goals and be creative. Do what others have not thought of. Beat others at their own game.
Sometimes, the best part of the game is not playing EVE but sitting down drawing up a business plan to do something a bigger and better way. Don't get hung up with the "I always must be in my starship hopping around the galaxy" mode. Don't think you must always be running a mission or mining and making ISK to try to catch up with the billionaires out there. The greater satisfaction is when you are in your starship executing a plan that succeeded after spending an hour or two planning it out on your spreadsheet or word processor.
Faction warfare is an outstanding feature that I am sure CCP will develop further to make it more challenging, rewarding and fun.
Finally, take a look at the 4th link down under "EVE INSIDER" on the left and read what's going on in "Under Development" (expand "Patch Notes"). If just a few of these terrific ideas ever appear, such as "Shantytown" and some of the others, this game will explode with new features and challenges and fun. Learn the game and become an expert now, and be ready for the future as there are some really neat things on the drawing board.
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Dani SP
Caldari
Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.01.13 10:42:00 -
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oh I forgot to tell you about the economy. At first, it looks like another boring predictable game, but then you realize everything is related, and sometimes "unpredictable stuff happens" just like in real life economy.
Worst thing is, maybe, dudes who has been playing for 4-5 years they all got awesome amount of skill points, so "newbies" can't compite and will never compare to them. I mean, when a newbie like me joined at Dec 2008 will be 4 years old (2012) the 2004 dudes will be 8 years old, so I will never be the "winner" of this game (nor anybody joined after 2006).
Still, if you play wisely, you can "beat" some older players of course. And after all, its not necessary to compite with them. |
Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2009.01.13 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dani SP
Worst thing is, maybe, dudes who has been playing for 4-5 years they all got awesome amount of skill points, so "newbies" can't compite and will never compare to them.
Rubbish - this is one of the major misconceptions. You will (probably) never have as many skill points as them - that's it. Seriously, skill points are not the be-all and end-all that a lot of new players think they will be.
I suppose it's like money in a way; if you have very very little then it seems to be of great importance and you can look at rich people and think "If I had that amount of cash, all my troubles would be over." However, if you're actually "comfortably off" you soon realise that money is just an enabler and not a goal or a measure of success or happiness in its own right.
What I'm trying to say is that yes - some level of skills are required in order for you to perform well in a given role; you can't fly a battleship with a million skill points, for example. However, within a few months you can easily get to a very competant level in just about any particular area. At this point it's all down to player skills, intelligence etc. much more than it is skill points.
For example:
Playing the markets - if you put in better orders and have better foresight, then you will make more money than someone with more SP, despite the fact he pays 0.5% tax while you pay 0.7%, and he can have 500 open orders while you can only have 100.
Running a corp - this is almost completely unrelated to skill points anyway. If you have the social skills, organisation and drive to get people working together towards a common goal, then that's much better than the sociopath who has trained Empire Control level V.
PvP - if you have good situational awareness, good knowledge of ships and their capabilities (especially your own), good understanding of what you can and can't take on, good intelligence on adversaries and possibly good wingmen then you can take down someone with more skillpoints that you very easily. Obviously PvP is incredibly complex, but for example the Sharpshooter skill adds 5% range per level. A single Tracking Disruptor I with no skills at all will remove 36% range.
In all these examples the overwhelming theme is that you can overcome lack of skill points with "real-life" skills (while the reverse is not true; 80 million skill points will not save you if you are just bad at EVE). And when your skills do train you'll be awesome. 
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I mean, when a newbie like me joined at Dec 2008 will be 4 years old (2012) the 2004 dudes will be 8 years old, so I will never be the "winner" of this game (nor anybody joined after 2006).
Two important things you're overlooking here. Firstly, skills are capped and have diminishing returns. That means that if you have level 5 in a skill, it doesn't matter how many billions of skill points someone else has, or how many decades he's been playing, he cannot be better than you at that particular thing. You can catch the older players up in any given area simply because there comes a point beyond which they cannot progress. Additionally, since each level takes roughly five times longer than the one before it, training a skill to level 4 gives 80% of the benefit at level 5, but takes only 20% of the time. Training to level 3 gives 60% of the benefit in just 4% of the time. For example, if a completely new player wanted to increase their small projectile damage by 5%, it might take them an hour (to train this skill to level 1). If an older player wanted to do this, it might take them five days to get the same benefit (to train from 4 to 5).
Secondly, noone is the "winner" of the game based on skillpoints, at all. It's all about your actions, their impact on the universe, and most importantly of all whether you have fun doing it.
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Still, if you play wisely, you can "beat" some older players of course.
That's more like it.
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Noix Arikani
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Posted - 2009.01.18 20:59:00 -
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Lrn2EVE or GB2WoW :P p.s oj i love yhu nublets, so many juicy trades
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Selenica Draper
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.19 02:00:00 -
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I enjoy the complexity and the amount of freedom you get to do what you want. It also feels closer to a virtual world & economy than any MMO I've played, and it has endless room to improve and grow and CCP is willing to do such. We could still be playing Eve Online (with walking in stations, planets, whatever addons they might cook up) when World of Warcraft 5 comes out. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.19 05:59:00 -
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The two fun things in EVE : making ISK (with the least amount of effort and preferably while somebody else loses it) and wasting ISK (in PvP).
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Morning Maniac
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2009.01.19 11:10:00 -
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The main fun of EVE is the people you play with. When you find a corp of like minded people it's like coming home every time you log on.
About success and beating the veterans; the great players in EVE are not great because of their skillpoints. A skilled player does more damage per shot, or mines more ore per minute. A great player commands fleets and has people mine for him. That's not down to your skillpoints, that's down to the person behind the pc.
MM
http://eve-ivy.com
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Taipan Leviathan
Dark Star Confederation
Magnum Opus.
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Posted - 2009.01.19 11:15:00 -
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Being in 1 server with the whole of eve.
This makes evrything you do feel more epic (especialy alliance wars)
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Atur Kha
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Posted - 2009.01.19 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tandin
Originally by: gfldex
The people I play with.
^^ this.. Eve is a social game and most of the enjoyment comes from the interactions with other people. I enjoy teaching people and helping noobs while other people enjoy blowing up noobs and watching them cry. There are niches for everybody in this game. Either way, it's the guys (and ladies) you fly with that make it worth logging back on each day.
10-4 that mates. I tried EVE for 4 days and decided to make it a subscription. On the second day i was already doing fleet runs with other ppl. The Rookie help online is great and ppl in general are very helpful. I already invited a buddy to try EVE and we got together online for some fun...
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