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Undertow Latheus
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Posted - 2009.01.12 02:54:00 -
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You only get to have more customization if you're ****ing rich? I thought CCP was bringing more depth, complexity, and customization to all of EVE, not just the people who have amassed billions of isk...
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.12 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 12/01/2009 03:05:46
Ships have always been customizable AFAIK. It was like pre-pre-beta when CCP was still considering having fixed weapon systems on each ship class (they talk about it in Art of Eve.) They most recently improved customization by destroying the silly nano ships. Anyone who PvPs regularly knows that the speed balance greatly improved the quantity of viable ship fittings.
I mean I know what you're talking about when you mention customization but nobody is quite sure yet just how much true customization you can get with the T3 designs. Sure there are thousands of potential combinations of component parts, but there are thousands of combinations of ship module fittings for the ships already in game as well.
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Kal Shanai
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Posted - 2009.01.12 03:24:00 -
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Well, thats a truth with modification. For any single usage you only have so many choices of module-combos in order to be effective.
But, to get back to the topic: Yes, only the t3 ships will be modular in that way as far as i know.
But there's not telling how easy these modules will be to come by. And supply/demand rules the market, so you might find that at least smaller ship parts will be sold quite cheap, as soon as the market settles after the expansion, of course.
As far as i know you can get t3 thingies in exploring, so get leveling those exploration skills now and you might find yourself riding the first wave, getting huge piles of cash ;) |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:16:00 -
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and an officer fit nightmare killed my t2 fit amargeddon wha  wha wha
yea at first t3 stuff will be balls expensive, but I doubt that it will be cost prohibitive for most of the mods after a month or two. |
Ashani Tazuki
Gallente
VisionEight
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:27:00 -
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how do people even know what "modular" means? i cnt find any reliable info other then assumptions.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Ashani Tazuki
how do people even know what "modular" means? i cnt find any reliable info other then assumptions.
Come on, you haven't seen the video?
Modular as in every ship consists of 4-5 components (I think it was 4 or 5) that can be exchanged for all sorts of different components with different abilities/pros&cons.
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Aerin Cloudfayr
the evil ones
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.01.12 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: Aerin Cloudfayr on 12/01/2009 06:36:29
that's awesome!
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=k-DPqnifEIg
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Raymon James
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.12 07:04:00 -
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Hey our ships are already "Modular" as it is! now we have to stick them together?
Shesh
Im gona have to order a lot more ducttape
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Ashani Tazuki
Gallente
VisionEight
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Posted - 2009.01.12 07:14:00 -
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oh wow ty, hadnt seen that vid yet.
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Ashani Tazuki
Gallente
VisionEight
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Posted - 2009.01.12 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ashani Tazuki on 12/01/2009 07:19:53
- Double post-
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Archonus
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.12 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Undertow Latheus
You only get to have more customization if you're ****ing rich? I thought CCP was bringing more depth, complexity, and customization to all of EVE, not just the people who have amassed billions of isk...
your retarted |
The Tzar
Malicious Intentions
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Undertow Latheus
You only get to have more customization if you're ****ing rich? I thought CCP was bringing more depth, complexity, and customization to all of EVE, not just the people who have amassed billions of isk...
Yes, the best way to support a war is capitalism.
The best ships/mods have always expensive, T3 is not changing this. |
Adaera
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Posted - 2009.01.12 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Adaera on 12/01/2009 11:13:40
Originally by: Archonus
Originally by: Undertow Latheus
You only get to have more customization if you're ****ing rich? I thought CCP was bringing more depth, complexity, and customization to all of EVE, not just the people who have amassed billions of isk...
your retarted
*you're
*unless this is some meme I've missed and it was an intentional error.
And he actually makes a good point, this stuff is going to be stupidly expensive. |
P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.12 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Anyone who PvPs regularly knows that the speed balance greatly improved the quantity of viable ship fittings.
Matter of perspective. Tinkering around and contemplating wether x more tank is better than y more gank or z more sensor strength KIND OF looks as if you have "tons of new options". In reality, you have the same ships as pre QR only almost zero speed viability. Even the speedy setups "tank" these days.
Imho there would have been better ways of bringing speed in line.
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Real Poison
Minmatar
Stormlord Battleforce
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Adaera
And he actually makes a good point, this stuff is going to be stupidly expensive.
how do you know? has ccp leaked any price infos yet?
sounds like pure speculation to me.
i just hope the wormholes will be evenly distributed across the whole world (same chance to find one in high-sec,lol-sec,no-sec).
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Navtiqes
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2009.01.12 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Real Poison
Originally by: Adaera
And he actually makes a good point, this stuff is going to be stupidly expensive.
how do you know? has ccp leaked any price infos yet?
sounds like pure speculation to me.
i just hope the wormholes will be evenly distributed across the whole world (same chance to find one in high-sec,lol-sec,no-sec).
In the Fanfest 08 presentation, the guy explicitly says that "oh, but this part is only if you're really rich", which implies that there are plenty of parts for those of us that aren't rich too.
It makes sense really. When there's 7760 different combinations, you're bound to have some that are cost efficient.
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2009.01.12 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Real Poison
Originally by: Adaera
And he actually makes a good point, this stuff is going to be stupidly expensive.
how do you know? has ccp leaked any price infos yet?
What price infos? It's going to be all player-made, so just like everything on the market is going to come down to supply and demand.
The more people that want the T3 ships, the higher the price is going to go, and the more people are going to be enticed into trying to get hold of the resources to sell.
The more people that are selling T3 commodities, the lower the price will go as they compete to undercut each other.
Presumably there will be initial investment requirements in the form of BPOs, but anyone serious about that will be able to recoup it over time - not to mention it's more a deposit than an expenditure (as you can almost certainly resell the BPO for a good amount of its market price later), so this should have little or no effect on market prices.
So really, when you're complaining that "it will be too expensive", what you really mean is "most people in this game are prepared to pay more than I am for the limited supply of T3 ships/components" - which is true. Is that a bad thing? It's not T3 ships for all, and if it was it would be rubbish.
It's like complaining that not everyone gets to warp disrupt from 72km (max-skilled Arazu with overheated Domi disruptor), you're stuck with 24km for the plain-Jane T2 disruptor. Or even stuck with 20km for a T1 disruptor, since you can't afford the 1m ISK for a T2.
Better things cost more because of the player-driven market. With a very low supply, this is much more marked.
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Morgan La'Chance
Caldari
Dynamic Reallocation and Logistics
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Posted - 2009.01.12 13:50:00 -
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We also lack proper information about production bottlenecks, the prevalence/ease of exploration for the wormholes, the ease of access/transport of production resources...
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Bit Steen
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Posted - 2009.01.12 14:13:00 -
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T3 ships wont be the "nber" ships. I'm shure CCP will create some drawbacks and that we see hundreds of whining threads like "why is it not possible to fit a gunnery and a cargo module"  |
Snow Banshee
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Posted - 2009.01.12 14:21:00 -
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Just 1 question ( since i was not aware on all of this):
It is supposed next major upgrade ( this summer?) or soon(tm) like planetary interaction, starbare walking ( est. release 2019  ) |
Grek Forto
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.01.12 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Snow Banshee
Just 1 question ( since i was not aware on all of this):
It is supposed next major upgrade ( this summer?) or soon(tm) like planetary interaction, starbare walking ( est. release 2019 )
March 10 (They say, lol) |
Archonus
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.01.12 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Adaera
Edited by: Adaera on 12/01/2009 11:13:40
Originally by: Archonus
Originally by: Undertow Latheus
You only get to have more customization if you're ****ing rich? I thought CCP was bringing more depth, complexity, and customization to all of EVE, not just the people who have amassed billions of isk...
your retarted
*you're
*unless this is some meme I've missed and it was an intentional error.
And he actually makes a good point, this stuff is going to be stupidly expensive.
trolled
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