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o0I3lackout0o1 Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.12 13:58:00 - [1] Probably been asked many times before, so sorry if it has, but how do you find them? Also are they only in Low sec or are they also in High sec. Any more information would be much appreciated. Thanks Guys.
W3370Pi4 Caldari Lords Of Kaos	Posted - 2009.01.12 14:00:00 - [2] The hidden belts are found trough Exploration http://www.eve-guides.com/exploration/index.php you can generally find omber sites in empire , the lower the security status the better the ore _______ Join the "Legit Trading" Channel ★Monitored WTB★WTA★WTT★WTS★Contracts★Trade ADs★★ Scams free channel★
Avalon Champion Gallente Defence Evaluation Research Agency	Posted - 2009.01.12 17:00:00 - [3] You find them with scan probes, look for gravametric signatures, then use Grav probes to scan down the offending belt. Generally, It depends on the region and the security, I've found a couple of nice Jaspet and Hemorphite belts in 0.5 systems around Derelik, though they tended to mostly be omber. In a 0.4 (Abha) i found a very nice Gniess belt though I didnt have the time to mine it and when i got back it was gone.
Gremwatch	Posted - 2009.01.12 18:55:00 - [4] It depends on the sec status of the system and your luck I have found every thing from omber belts to once a large genis belt in highsec. In lowsec you can find most 00 ores.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Frigateers	Posted - 2009.01.12 21:30:00 - [5] I've found omber, jaspet, kernite in highsec, and i've only gone looking for the sites twice. They are all over the place. .............
Strom Nekth	Posted - 2009.01.12 23:28:00 - [6] Originally by: Joe Starbreaker I've found omber, jaspet, kernite in highsec, and i've only gone looking for the sites twice. They are all over the place. The sites that I've found in hi-sec (from memory): Omber Jaspet, Kernite & Omber Hemorphite, Jaspet Hedbergite, Hemorphite, Kernite Each can be found in small, medium or large with the smallest being easiest to find and the large hardest. If you can explore already then finding grav sites may help break the monotony of mining (they do for me). If you can't explore already then I'm far from optimisic that it's worth training exploration and exploring for hi-sec grav sites to find a bunch of asteroids that are generally worth less than Veldspar per cubic meter.
Passin Through	Posted - 2009.01.13 00:30:00 - [7] In 0.0 space in a location that had mercox and crok... the hidden belt had all the same ore that the other belts had.
Sheikh Yarbhouti	Posted - 2009.01.13 02:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Passin Through In 0.0 space in a location that had mercox and crok... the hidden belt had all the same ore that the other belts had. How was the quantity of ore as compared to a regular belt?
Passin Through	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Sheikh Yarbhouti How was the quantity of ore as compared to a regular belt? It seemed to be exactly the same.... And respawned just as the normal belts.
Manella Seldon Gallente Happy Joymaker Corp	Posted - 2009.01.15 19:05:00 - [10] Edited by: Manella Seldon on 15/01/2009 19:06:33 Originally by: o0I3lackout0o1 Probably been asked many times before, so sorry if it has, but how do you find them? Also are they only in Low sec or are they also in High sec. Any more information would be much appreciated. Thanks Guys. There are two kinds of Hidden belts that I know of. The exploration sites already mentioned, and extensions of asteroid belts that are "off grid", that I have seen in 0.0. And I have only seen them in Deep 0.0. Im not sure if they exist in the crappier sections of 0.0 or not. And why check, the crappier sections of 0.0 have crappy ores so its not even worth looking. To find the off grid belts, I would warp around until I saw the ores flash in overveiw going from asteroid belt to asteroid belt or some other celestial. I believe I have also found them in an Interceptor, just go to the end of a belt and keep going. Generally those belts are just extensions of the existing belts off grid, and have the same ores. I hope that answers your question. I have never seen them in High Sec, and doubt they exist there since the overall size of the belts seem to be much smaller. And in Low Sec, Ive never checked. Low Sec mining is borked. Theres no need to go looking.
Braaage Ministry of Craft	Posted - 2009.01.15 19:57:00 - [11] I found quite a lot of off-grid belts in the RIT triangle in Feyth. I don't think they are intended though, I seem to recall a CCP Dev saying they happened by mistake and wasn't supposed to be like that. When/If they ever revamp asteroid belts I suppose they will get fixed. They are nice mining spots though if you can find them
Jaitee Tecknotic	Posted - 2009.01.15 20:10:00 - [12] in 00 True Sansha territory we yielded 150m of megabyte and morphine via deep core mining + bit of the other stuff. And I think that's on the low end. The Hidden belt was around for 3-4 days and would sometimes spawn rats to keep it interesting. We didn't even get to finish it off before it disappeared. (Not really miners)
nether void Caldari Shrapnel Industries	Posted - 2009.01.15 23:32:00 - [13] I wish they would revamp mining. I want to like it, but it's dreadfully boring and also not particularly lucrative unless you're in a good section of 0.0.
PvT SN0WBaLL	Posted - 2009.01.15 23:48:00 - [14] Originally by: Jaitee in 00 True Sansha territory we yielded 150m of megabyte and morphine via deep core mining + bit of the other stuff. And I think that's on the low end. The Hidden belt was around for 3-4 days and would sometimes spawn rats to keep it interesting. We didn't even get to finish it off before it disappeared. (Not really miners) Grav sites are 72 hours,least last ones I did were.
Strom Nekth	Posted - 2009.01.16 00:05:00 - [15] Originally by: PvT SN0WBaLL Originally by: Jaitee in 00 True Sansha territory we yielded 150m of megabyte and morphine via deep core mining + bit of the other stuff. And I think that's on the low end. The Hidden belt was around for 3-4 days and would sometimes spawn rats to keep it interesting. We didn't even get to finish it off before it disappeared. (Not really miners) Grav sites are 72 hours,least last ones I did were. Grav sites despawn at the first downtime following 72 hours after they were spawned.
o0I3lackout0o1 Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.16 11:36:00 - [16] thnxs guys im suprised how popular this topic is becomin, but i just want to get something straight as i haven't yet found any site and am gettin blue in the face (not a pretty site) i need to use grav scan probes and scan for cosmic sig's. ????? if im doin this wrong please tell me. again, thanks for the help
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.16 11:47:00 - [17] yes, thats right. first you drop a multispectral probe, that will tell you what sites (if any) there are in the system. if you see a gravimetric result, drop gravi probes and get to scanning. otherwise, move on.
Synex Gallente Oursulaert Industries	Posted - 2009.01.16 11:51:00 - [18] I remember back in the days when belts where so big they'd spawn off-grid, so you could do proper searching for them (with the ship scanner - none of this fancy scan probe stuff). A good scanner could hunt down a belt in a couple of hours and it'd be chock full of Ark, ready for mining, totally safe from NPC pirates. Ah... good times.
Lars Erlkonig Caldari Flipmode Industries	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Synex I remember back in the days when belts where so big they'd spawn off-grid, so you could do proper searching for them (with the ship scanner - none of this fancy scan probe stuff). A good scanner could hunt down a belt in a couple of hours and it'd be chock full of Ark, ready for mining, totally safe from NPC pirates. Ah... good times. The offgrid rocks still exist in some systems if you know where to look.
o0I3lackout0o1 Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.16 15:56:00 - [20] here we are again showing total "nub" ness what skills do i need to lower the scanning time of a multispec scan probe to below its flight time? Thanks again
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:19:00 - [21] Originally by: o0I3lackout0o1 here we are again showing total "nub" ness what skills do i need to lower the scanning time of a multispec scan probe to below its flight time? Thanks again To be decent at scanning, get these skills to level 4 at least: Signal acquisition Astrometric pinpointing Astrometric triangulation Astrometrics
Galvanized	Posted - 2009.01.16 17:40:00 - [22] Have a good read of the scanning guides out there and go and try it out using a frig ( with the scanning bonus for your race )and some multispec probes and when u get ahit which is inevitable, try and scan it down.. Go planet by planet if u want ( as long as theres not 20 in a system ) and using a quest by each one scan 10 times each...thats how i found my 1st..then u adapt and speed up that process till it takes you 5 minutes roughly...
Auldslapper	Posted - 2009.01.16 18:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Braaage I found quite a lot of off-grid belts in the RIT triangle in Feyth. I don't think they are intended though, I seem to recall a CCP Dev saying they happened by mistake and wasn't supposed to be like that. When/If they ever revamp asteroid belts I suppose they will get fixed. They are nice mining spots though if you can find them Used to happen quite a lot in 0.0, dunno if it still does? at one time you could find them by setting your overview to look for a certain roid type then scan them out with the ships scanner but this option was removed a year or two ago iirc?
Strom Nekth	Posted - 2009.01.16 22:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Fifi LeFume Originally by: o0I3lackout0o1 here we are again showing total "nub" ness what skills do i need to lower the scanning time of a multispec scan probe to below its flight time? Thanks again To be decent at scanning, get these skills to level 4 at least: Signal acquisition Astrometric pinpointing Astrometric triangulation Astrometrics If you are flying an astrometrics frigate then each level of frigate skill gives you a 5% reduction in scan time. So an Imicus with Gallente frigate 4 gives you a 20% reduction in scan time. If you're flying an astrometric covert ops like a Helios then each level of covert ops gives you a 10% reduction in scan time. A Sisters of Eve Scan Probe Launcher has a base scan time 25% lower (450 sec) than a regular scan probe launcher (600). The signal acquisition skill gives you a 10% scan time bonus for each level. You can also get some implants that boost your scanning abilities but they're expensive enough that you should figure out if you like exploration before springing for them. Astrometrics - You need this at 4 (to use sift probes). For exploration there's no advantage to having at 5 and it's a long train. Astrometric pinpointing and astrometric triangulation are pretty quick to train up to 2 but you can take your time getting them up to 4 imho. The flight time of a multispectral is 600 seconds (the same as the base scan time of a regular probe launcher) so as long as you have one time bonus (from astrometric frigate or signal acquisition) you should be able to scan before it expires.
o0I3lackout0o1 Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.16 23:22:00 - [25] wow thnxs very much for the reply. much appreciated. thank you everyone. keep adding anything to the topic cause im sure others are watching this thread for information as much as i am.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.17 07:20:00 - [26] I just got a ****ite, dark Ochre, spodumain hidden belt in lowsec should leave a dark ochre rock behind and see if it respawns
o0I3lackout0o1 Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.21 22:56:00 - [27] a bump for an older topic that more new players should see. And of cause older players to add to
Clurk Brodon Yog-Sothoth Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.01.22 11:20:00 - [28] Don't bother, you'll make more by mining veldspar.
Illectroculus Defined	Posted - 2009.01.22 18:06:00 - [29] Originally by: Strom Nekth If you are flying an astrometrics frigate then each level of frigate skill gives you a 5% reduction in scan time. So an Imicus with Gallente frigate 4 gives you a 20% reduction in scan time. If you're flying an astrometric covert ops like a Helios then each level of covert ops gives you a 10% reduction in scan time. Also, there's the gravimetric capacitor rig which gives a 10% bonus - fit 2 of these to your covert ops ship, add a covert ops cloak and sisters scan launcher and you'll be flying a very efficient exploration frigate. It'll also be 100million very fragile ISK, so be careful with it. HOwever, as it stands the market is broken right now and tritanium is so valuable it's no worth mining anything else until you get to deep 0.0 If you want a hidden belt try spawning encounter missions like 'Break Their Will' or 'Unauthorised Militart Presence' and you'll have plenty of fresh ore to mine

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