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Sassinak	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:47:00 - [91] Edited by: Sassinak on 27/07/2004 08:50:41 Originally by: Presidio Posting about kills on forums it's pointless, as the forum warriors of NCA will never admit to being defeated. People that beleive NCA and Evol truly make me laugh... btw are we ready for another PA is dead thread? lol your absulutely right! tryin to compare kills on the forum is pointless.(Your little GODS chum likes to point out kills on the forum btw) And yeah forum warriors from the NCA are off again..... yet here you are, waging war on the forum. Lets see how many times you contradict yourself with your reply. Caio Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:47:00 - [92] Edited by: Sassinak on 27/07/2004 08:50:41 Originally by: Presidio Posting about kills on forums it's pointless, as the forum warriors of NCA will never admit to being defeated. People that beleive NCA and Evol truly make me laugh... btw are we ready for another PA is dead thread? lol your absulutely right! tryin to compare kills on the forum is pointless.(Your little GODS chum likes to point out kills on the forum btw) And yeah forum warriors from the NCA are off again..... yet here you are, waging war on the forum. Lets see how many times you contradict yourself with your reply. Caio Sass Arcane Technologies
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:49:00 - [93] Fade lost um...3 battleships over the night, i think 2 in the battle. Fight: Losses: Topdog (Dominix?) Panzer Faust (tempest) Fade Return Trip: Losses: Probably Krotchy.... Kills: TheJakalKiller [HAOS] (Scorpion) CARMENts [HAOS] (Raven) Haos [HAOS] (Tempest) Bionicle [R-K] (Tempest) Those are the ones that are currently on the Fade Website, more to be added when the lazy people actually post them -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:49:00 - [94] Fade lost um...3 battleships over the night, i think 2 in the battle. Fight: Losses: Topdog (Dominix?) Panzer Faust (tempest) Fade Return Trip: Losses: Probably Krotchy.... Kills: TheJakalKiller [HAOS] (Scorpion) CARMENts [HAOS] (Raven) Haos [HAOS] (Tempest) Bionicle [R-K] (Tempest) Those are the ones that are currently on the Fade Website, more to be added when the lazy people actually post them -- Director of Ganking: Death Row Inc.
Eyeris	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:50:00 - [95] Edited by: Eyeris on 27/07/2004 08:58:18 Edited by: Eyeris on 27/07/2004 08:57:19 Quote: When we first jumped in we had less battleships. About 20. You had 30? (The only way we can get you to fight is by having lesser number, don't you know that we can outnumber you any time we want?) It's our reinforcements that played a pivotal role. Never at any point we had more than 20 BS on that gate.You must've been seeing doubles P.P.S. teh movie sux
Eyeris	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:50:00 - [96] Edited by: Eyeris on 27/07/2004 08:58:18 Edited by: Eyeris on 27/07/2004 08:57:19 Quote: When we first jumped in we had less battleships. About 20. You had 30? (The only way we can get you to fight is by having lesser number, don't you know that we can outnumber you any time we want?) It's our reinforcements that played a pivotal role. Never at any point we had more than 20 BS on that gate.You must've been seeing doubles P.P.S. teh movie sux
Sun Ra	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:52:00 - [97] Originally by: Mituno Sakai http://www.slukklyset.no/bkg1.jpg Damn, is that MASSIVE drone launches by the PA fleet? Intentionally overloading the performance treshold of clients and server to give you an edge. Dont do that plz. Damn i wished i could have even see 1/4 of that
Sun Ra	Posted - 2004.07.27 08:52:00 - [98] Originally by: Mituno Sakai http://www.slukklyset.no/bkg1.jpg Damn, is that MASSIVE drone launches by the PA fleet? Intentionally overloading the performance treshold of clients and server to give you an edge. Dont do that plz. Damn i wished i could have even see 1/4 of that
Riddari	Posted - 2004.07.27 10:04:00 - [99] I'm maybe going out on a limb here but how many apocs has Shrike lost now? Seems to be first target everytime, poor Molle. ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.07.27 10:04:00 - [100] I'm maybe going out on a limb here but how many apocs has Shrike lost now? Seems to be first target everytime, poor Molle. ¼©¼ a history
Artegg	Posted - 2004.07.27 10:24:00 - [101] Edited by: Artegg on 27/07/2004 10:39:53 Sounds like it was a good fight shame i had to go to a dinner party
Artegg	Posted - 2004.07.27 10:24:00 - [102] Edited by: Artegg on 27/07/2004 10:39:53 Sounds like it was a good fight shame i had to go to a dinner party
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2004.07.27 12:06:00 - [103] interesting skirmish, despite getting grief for staying up late and not coming to bed! - "just another 30mins dear, we've got a big battle coming" <several hours later>. First off, props to the PA fleet for jumping in on us - didnt expect you to tbh - thought we were going to have to chase you down. You did have a much bigger fleet tho ;-) From my POV as a frig pilot it was darn laggy, though I was just about managing to zip round the battlefield popping nme frigs (until >3 BS Target jammed me, grr). about 30s to lock something, 20s to activate modules. I dont really like these big laggy battles, not much skill involved as the lag tends to negate the possibility of any tactics. Fun nonetheless.
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2004.07.27 12:06:00 - [104] interesting skirmish, despite getting grief for staying up late and not coming to bed! - "just another 30mins dear, we've got a big battle coming" <several hours later>. First off, props to the PA fleet for jumping in on us - didnt expect you to tbh - thought we were going to have to chase you down. You did have a much bigger fleet tho ;-) From my POV as a frig pilot it was darn laggy, though I was just about managing to zip round the battlefield popping nme frigs (until >3 BS Target jammed me, grr). about 30s to lock something, 20s to activate modules. I dont really like these big laggy battles, not much skill involved as the lag tends to negate the possibility of any tactics. Fun nonetheless.
Tholarim	Posted - 2004.07.27 12:40:00 - [105] Edited by: Tholarim on 27/07/2004 12:42:26 Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? And some other ppl saying PA are dead? doesn't look like it to me... RKK/Evol flames below this line plz.
Tholarim	Posted - 2004.07.27 12:40:00 - [106] Edited by: Tholarim on 27/07/2004 12:42:26 Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? And some other ppl saying PA are dead? doesn't look like it to me... RKK/Evol flames below this line plz.
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:02:00 - [107] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 27/07/2004 12:42:26 Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? And some other ppl saying PA are dead? doesn't look like it to me... RKK/Evol flames below this line plz. What have i told you about listening to these people thol! Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:02:00 - [108] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 27/07/2004 12:42:26 Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? And some other ppl saying PA are dead? doesn't look like it to me... RKK/Evol flames below this line plz. What have i told you about listening to these people thol! Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:05:00 - [109] Originally by: Arkaine Edited by: Arkaine on 27/07/2004 07:40:18 Originally by: Presidio BTW: (I count more enemy ships in that screenshot. 36 enemy ships on the scanner). That was the beginning of the fight. Yep, very convenient to count only what is clearly visible on screen and assume that we had more ships. Being told we had less, I decided to investigate a little. Look at the scanner- it's sorted by "state" and in this case yellow on top, Evol/m0o/RKK, and blue on the bottom, PA. Now look at the slidebar-tab. It occupies exactly the top half of the entire slidebar- thus, what is shown is exactly one-half of the list. So, what can we assume from this? That the bottom half is full of names with a blue bar. Thus, by counting what's visable and assuming what's not we can deduct the following: There are exactly 35 Evol/m0o/Rkk ships (not 36) that can be counted. Exactly the number we claimed we had. There are 5 blue (PA) Ships on scanner that can be counted. There are 40 entities not shown on the scanner- 39 of which would be PA ships. The 40th entity will be the gate. Thus- 35 to 44 in this screenshot. I'm told the PA received several reinforcements as well after this was taken. .... Have you taken into account that numbers in terms of players means little in actual strength of a fleet. Consider the make up of the fleet, i.e half of those people could be in frigates (not that i am saying they were). Whilst im in no position to argue that either side was out numbered, i don't think u can really go off number of peeps on scanner. Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:05:00 - [110] Originally by: Arkaine Edited by: Arkaine on 27/07/2004 07:40:18 Originally by: Presidio BTW: (I count more enemy ships in that screenshot. 36 enemy ships on the scanner). That was the beginning of the fight. Yep, very convenient to count only what is clearly visible on screen and assume that we had more ships. Being told we had less, I decided to investigate a little. Look at the scanner- it's sorted by "state" and in this case yellow on top, Evol/m0o/RKK, and blue on the bottom, PA. Now look at the slidebar-tab. It occupies exactly the top half of the entire slidebar- thus, what is shown is exactly one-half of the list. So, what can we assume from this? That the bottom half is full of names with a blue bar. Thus, by counting what's visable and assuming what's not we can deduct the following: There are exactly 35 Evol/m0o/Rkk ships (not 36) that can be counted. Exactly the number we claimed we had. There are 5 blue (PA) Ships on scanner that can be counted. There are 40 entities not shown on the scanner- 39 of which would be PA ships. The 40th entity will be the gate. Thus- 35 to 44 in this screenshot. I'm told the PA received several reinforcements as well after this was taken. .... Have you taken into account that numbers in terms of players means little in actual strength of a fleet. Consider the make up of the fleet, i.e half of those people could be in frigates (not that i am saying they were). Whilst im in no position to argue that either side was out numbered, i don't think u can really go off number of peeps on scanner. Reverend Necrona
TWD	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:14:00 - [111] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 27/07/2004 12:42:26 Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? And some other ppl saying PA are dead? doesn't look like it to me... RKK/Evol flames below this line plz. You should come here and see things for yourself. PA sits the majority of the time in deadspace, and come out only when they have fastly superior numbers. the count was no less than 34 PA battleships at the station before the battle +numerous frigs and cruisers. personally, I was disappointed with the battle because I was unable to load in space. I do hope that this will lead to more (smaller) battles.
TWD	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:14:00 - [112] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 27/07/2004 12:42:26 Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? And some other ppl saying PA are dead? doesn't look like it to me... RKK/Evol flames below this line plz. You should come here and see things for yourself. PA sits the majority of the time in deadspace, and come out only when they have fastly superior numbers. the count was no less than 34 PA battleships at the station before the battle +numerous frigs and cruisers. personally, I was disappointed with the battle because I was unable to load in space. I do hope that this will lead to more (smaller) battles.
Javi	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:16:00 - [113] Originally by: Riddari I'm maybe going out on a limb here but how many apocs has Shrike lost now? Seems to be first target everytime, poor Molle. i'll have you know... he actually survived this one -- "well..." -Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat
Javi	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:16:00 - [114] Originally by: Riddari I'm maybe going out on a limb here but how many apocs has Shrike lost now? Seems to be first target everytime, poor Molle. i'll have you know... he actually survived this one -- "well..." -Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:27:00 - [115] Originally by: Tholarim Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? If you consider 80 PA ships fighting 40 rokom0lution ships and losing an equal number of BS over the time of the battle AND losing 20-25 support ships a victory ... then you have very warped ideals about pvp. However, what I find most interesting about these last few battles is that we are no longer attacking PA territory. We are defending our own territory. They sit like ghosts in local in what they claim to be there territory. At the same time, we spend the day mining and npc hunting. The only fighting we get is when they can muster some forces up from outside venal to come up, lose a bunch of BS and support ships and then leave again. This is our land. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:27:00 - [116] Originally by: Tholarim Didn't DBpreacher say that Rokom0volution are so l33t that they never lose a battle? If you consider 80 PA ships fighting 40 rokom0lution ships and losing an equal number of BS over the time of the battle AND losing 20-25 support ships a victory ... then you have very warped ideals about pvp. However, what I find most interesting about these last few battles is that we are no longer attacking PA territory. We are defending our own territory. They sit like ghosts in local in what they claim to be there territory. At the same time, we spend the day mining and npc hunting. The only fighting we get is when they can muster some forces up from outside venal to come up, lose a bunch of BS and support ships and then leave again. This is our land. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:30:00 - [117] Originally by: TWD I do hope that this will lead to more (smaller) battles. that'd be nice - these huge fleet battles all look very impressive, but the playbility is naff. 5v5 BS + cruisers and frigs is my favourite. perhaps we should hold our own 'championship' the 'prize' being the *enal regions.
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:30:00 - [118] Originally by: TWD I do hope that this will lead to more (smaller) battles. that'd be nice - these huge fleet battles all look very impressive, but the playbility is naff. 5v5 BS + cruisers and frigs is my favourite. perhaps we should hold our own 'championship' the 'prize' being the *enal regions.
Koval	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:32:00 - [119] Edited by: Koval on 27/07/2004 13:38:00 Originally by: DB Preacher If you consider 80 PA ships fighting 40 rokom0lution ships and losing an equal number of BS over the time of the battle AND losing 20-25 support ships a victory ... then you have very warped ideals about pvp. This is our land. dbp hehe it's just amazing 14 (so far) confirmed bs lost u call equal ? 80 ships fleet ? i saw maybe 30 bs and another 30 support ships :D lmao, behold the only-thruth NCA and no, it's not u'r land, and never will be
Koval	Posted - 2004.07.27 13:32:00 - [120] Edited by: Koval on 27/07/2004 13:38:00 Originally by: DB Preacher If you consider 80 PA ships fighting 40 rokom0lution ships and losing an equal number of BS over the time of the battle AND losing 20-25 support ships a victory ... then you have very warped ideals about pvp. This is our land. dbp hehe it's just amazing 14 (so far) confirmed bs lost u call equal ? 80 ships fleet ? i saw maybe 30 bs and another 30 support ships :D lmao, behold the only-thruth NCA and no, it's not u'r land, and never will be

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