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ghost st
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:05:00 -
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Eve being a game with digital distribution as it only distribution scheme (wll until m10 that is) i dont see why we cant get eon as a pdf. I really want to have a look at it, but i cant be arsed to go grab a physical copy. Why dont we have some kind of digital distribution for eon, like we do for the game itself?
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:07:00 -
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Whoa, I woke up and thought it was yesterday's posts all over again!
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wickedpheonix
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:07:00 -
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I second this, I'd get eon if it were digitally distributed - they're probably worried about piracy though? dunno...
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:08:00 -
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It's definitely because of the piracy issue.
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Coros
Spark.
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Coros on 15/01/2009 16:08:51
Would also be nice if it was a reduced fee (say 50% cheaper) or whatever their physical printing/shipping costs are taken off, same profit for them but alot for some of us who'd rather pay less for less physical material.
However, the argument is always piracy, once one person posts the .PDF, why pay.
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Coros
Edited by: Coros on 15/01/2009 16:08:51
Would also be nice if it was a reduced fee (say 50% cheaper) or whatever their physical printing/shipping costs are taken off, same profit for them but alot for some of us who'd rather pay less for less physical material.
However, the argument is always piracy, once one person posts the .PDF, why pay.
Because you auto-generate the person's full name on every page and when you find them on torrents, you ban every account connected to them.
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ghost st
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:15:00 -
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There are ways to do it without having to worry about people copying it ive gotten books online via pdf format and they use this, and besides what keeps people from just putting it into ther scanner and doing it that way?
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WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: Coros
Edited by: Coros on 15/01/2009 16:08:51
Would also be nice if it was a reduced fee (say 50% cheaper) or whatever their physical printing/shipping costs are taken off, same profit for them but alot for some of us who'd rather pay less for less physical material.
However, the argument is always piracy, once one person posts the .PDF, why pay.
Because you auto-generate the person's full name on every page and when you find them on torrents, you ban every account connected to them.
easy to add easy to remove. sure some idiot is gonna post it with his name but most are gonna be smart enough to take it out before posting. |
Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: WarlockX
Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: Coros
Edited by: Coros on 15/01/2009 16:08:51
Would also be nice if it was a reduced fee (say 50% cheaper) or whatever their physical printing/shipping costs are taken off, same profit for them but alot for some of us who'd rather pay less for less physical material.
However, the argument is always piracy, once one person posts the .PDF, why pay.
Because you auto-generate the person's full name on every page and when you find them on torrents, you ban every account connected to them.
easy to add easy to remove. sure some idiot is gonna post it with his name but most are gonna be smart enough to take it out before posting.
Not if the name is both on the page headers (or footers) and the page itself is lightly watermarked. Enough that a simple utility can raise it out clear as day by changing saturation/hue, yet not disrupt viewing by the human eye (as a significant amount of visual content is already watermarked today).
The solution is definitely not to lock it down so that only some ridiculous PDF e-reader OS-specific client can read it and you have to get permission from the prime minister to move it to another device.
Of course, something like EON should really be electronic to begin with and given freely to everyone in or out of the game to draw people in once they see what there is to offer. I can't imagine they make enough money with a hard copy version to make it much of a cash cow. |
WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: WarlockX
Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: Coros
Edited by: Coros on 15/01/2009 16:08:51
Would also be nice if it was a reduced fee (say 50% cheaper) or whatever their physical printing/shipping costs are taken off, same profit for them but alot for some of us who'd rather pay less for less physical material.
However, the argument is always piracy, once one person posts the .PDF, why pay.
Because you auto-generate the person's full name on every page and when you find them on torrents, you ban every account connected to them.
easy to add easy to remove. sure some idiot is gonna post it with his name but most are gonna be smart enough to take it out before posting.
Not if the name is both on the page headers (or footers) and the page itself is lightly watermarked. Enough that a simple utility can raise it out clear as day by changing saturation/hue, yet not disrupt viewing by the human eye (as a significant amount of visual content is already watermarked today).
The solution is definitely not to lock it down so that only some ridiculous PDF e-reader OS-specific client can read it and you have to get permission from the prime minister to move it to another device.
Of course, something like EON should really be electronic to begin with and given freely to everyone in or out of the game to draw people in once they see what there is to offer. I can't imagine they make enough money with a hard copy version to make it much of a cash cow.
take the info, take the pics make new pdf. HELL if you're lazy take screen shot and blurr out the watermark is its not readable. now what?
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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:41:00 -
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Because the magazine is a toy. And a significant number of EVE players are 40-year-old children who want toys.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
It's definitely because of the piracy issue.
cause scanners don't exist?
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: WarlockX
Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: WarlockX
Originally by: Qordel
Because you auto-generate the person's full name on every page and when you find them on torrents, you ban every account connected to them.
easy to add easy to remove. sure some idiot is gonna post it with his name but most are gonna be smart enough to take it out before posting.
Not if the name is both on the page headers (or footers) and the page itself is lightly watermarked. Enough that a simple utility can raise it out clear as day by changing saturation/hue, yet not disrupt viewing by the human eye (as a significant amount of visual content is already watermarked today).
The solution is definitely not to lock it down so that only some ridiculous PDF e-reader OS-specific client can read it and you have to get permission from the prime minister to move it to another device.
Of course, something like EON should really be electronic to begin with and given freely to everyone in or out of the game to draw people in once they see what there is to offer. I can't imagine they make enough money with a hard copy version to make it much of a cash cow.
take the info, take the pics make new pdf. HELL if you're lazy take screen shot and blurr out the watermark is its not readable. now what?
Yes, taking a photograph of a screen or otherwise exporting to a physical format and tampering with it would probably render a watermark useless, but simply "blurring" the watermark would do something since in doing so you would be blurring out the actual content that you're trying to view/read.
And once you have gotten to that point - of requiring people to muck around with their copy in order to make it available without tracing it back to them, you're on par with the situation they already have with hard copies. Therefore, the minor effort of automatically watermarking the content makes the digital copy as valid and secure as the hard copy is.
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