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Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 00:41:00 -
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Selling Abdul Jalil, hes only 4 days and 9 hours away from flying an Anshar (Gallente Jump Freighter). He's already an superior freighter pilot with all support skills :)
Total Skillpoints: 7.589.397
Jumpfreighter Capable in about 4 days.
Sec Status -0.42 currently - Can still fly in all empire systems.
Wallet will be at 100 Isk.
Assets: Will be of no value.
Currently in an NPC Corp and will be located in Hek at the end of auction.
Implants:
Intelligence Cybernetic Subprocessor - Basic [+3] Perception Ocular Filter - Basic [+3] Willpower Neural Boost - Basic [+3] Memory Memory Augmentation - Basic [+3]
Highlights:
Gallente Freighter - 4 Transport Ships - 2 Advanced Spaceships - 4 Gallente Industrial - 5 Science - 5 Cybernetics - 4 Warp Drive Operation - 5 Jump Drive Operation - 4-5 Currently 4 days 6 hours to finish. Electronics - 5 Evasive Maneuvering - 4 : For turning freighters faster.
Learning Skills:
Analytical Mind - 5 Clarity - 4 Eidetic Memory - 4 Focus - 4 Instant Recall - 5 Iron Will - 4 Learning - 5 Logic - 3 Spatial Awareness - 5
Starting Bid: 2,5 Billion. Reserve: Hidden. Buyout: 3,5 Billion.
Auction ending 25, Jan - 15:00 Eve Time, unless reserve or buyout is met. |

isdisco3
Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:17:00 -
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link to skillsheet please? |

Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: isdisco3 link to skillsheet please?
There it is, seems like i had forgot it in the hurry :) |

Trillian Ororo
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Posted - 2009.01.17 01:53:00 -
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3.5 billion for a 7.5 million SP Toon? thats 400 million per 1 million SP. |

Gambit690
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Posted - 2009.01.17 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Gambit690 on 17/01/2009 02:02:26
Originally by: Trillian Ororo 3.5 billion for a 7.5 million SP Toon? thats 400 million per 1 million SP.
Agreed - a little high maybe.
At most I'd offer 1.2 Bil. Price based on 150m per MSP and that there are no assets (freighter)
Thanks for the offer
Cheers Gambit
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Riveth
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Posted - 2009.01.17 06:02:00 -
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Edited by: Riveth on 17/01/2009 06:02:50
Yeah, a bit high I think, I'd offer 1.5B though. |

Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Riveth Edited by: Riveth on 17/01/2009 06:02:50
Yeah, a bit high I think, I'd offer 1.5B though.
A normal freighter pilot goes for 1,5 bil. |

Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 09:31:00 -
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Edited by: Abdul Jalil on 17/01/2009 09:31:25 . |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 10:00:00 -
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1.6 billion
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Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: littleodin 1.6 billion
I'm not even considering bid below 2 bill, as a normal freighter pilot goes for that.
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littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 10:21:00 -
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dreaming a litle dream
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Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: littleodin dreaming a litle dream
No your the one dreaming of getting a Jump Freighter for 1,6 bill. When a normal Freighter pilot goes for 1,5 bill... And normally a jump freighter for 4,6 bill.
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littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: littleodin on 17/01/2009 10:30:17 who said i was not talking about me? still was a valid offer as its a pretty one sided char from waht i see
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Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: littleodin Edited by: littleodin on 17/01/2009 10:30:17 who said i was not talking about me? still was a valid offer as its a pretty one sided char from waht i see
The Rolling eyes? anyways would you stop posting in here.
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Atariss
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:18:00 -
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Hi Abdul,
Really like the char 
Can you let me know how far off hulk he is too please
You can evemail me ingame if you like sup to you
Thanks,
Atariss  |

Gambit690
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:19:00 -
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All the support skills? seriously - you only have 7 mil SP's - your char is not worth 3 billion sorry.
The rate AFAIK for Toons is 100 million isk per every 1 million skill points - if the Char is a specialist it goes up to 2 maybe 3 hundred. Abdul is not PvP, PvE, he's not Indy he's not a miner, he's not a Trader he's not a JF pilot yet either.
You are asking 400M per 1m SP - for a Toon that can't fly a Jump Freighter yet; in 4 days admittedly he'll be able to undock one but you'll still need to spend another month at least training jump drive calibration and jump fuel conservation to make it worthwhile.
hence my bid of 1.5 and the other of 1.6 - It's what he's worth to me.
/end rant |

Atariss
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Atariss on 17/01/2009 11:28:14 If you just bid and stop trolling you might have a chance of getting him 
I regularly sell 2.5m sp chars for 1.5b, so its worth what its worth to a player - simple supply and demand, if someone wants a jf pilot in 4 days then they may bid high - who knows,
Atariss  |

Gambit690
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Atariss Edited by: Atariss on 17/01/2009 11:28:14 If you just bid and stop trolling you might have a chance of getting him 
I regularly sell 2.5m sp chars for 1.5b, so its worth what its worth to a player - simple supply and demand, if someone wants a jf pilot in 4 days then they may bid high - who knows,
Atariss 
I'm not trolling - I'm stating fact. If you care to read the entire thread I've already bid and stated that's what it's worth to me.
I was explaining to the OP the reasons behind my bid. |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:39:00 -
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gbee whiz a bid on an auction and you ridicule it i retract my bid you scmuck and for your sake i hope someone will match the bid...... an honest bid and you ridicule it wow kinda sounds like trolling to me |

Gambit690
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gambit690 on 17/01/2009 11:45:21
Originally by: littleodin gbee whiz a bid on an auction and you ridicule it i retract my bid you scmuck and for your sake i hope someone will match the bid...... an honest bid and you ridicule it wow kinda sounds like trolling to me
And you say that I'm trolling - I had a legitimate post in here making a bid I didn't come in to have a go at someone.
TBH I'm not going to defend myself against Keyboard Warriors - all I said was this is what I think it's worth and this is why - if ppl want to read into it as trolling / ridicule or whatever, fine... It's not what was meant at all. |

Atariss
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:44:00 -
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If you care to read the post it says that the starting bid is 2b, that means that you start bidding at 2b, 
Atariss  |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:45:00 -
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sorry was talking about the bafooon that was listing a char and expecting the nmoon hoping to hook a sucker "trolling for a sucker" sorry english is not my first language |

Gambit690
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: littleodin sorry was talking about the bafooon that was listing a char and expecting the nmoon hoping to hook a sucker "trolling for a sucker" sorry english is not my first language
no worries
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Atariss
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:51:00 -
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I disagree with you I think a start of 2b is a good price for an indy char with Jump Freighter,
Atariss  |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:56:00 -
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auctions are for those who hope for a deal not a "fair price" with no other bids than why more fuss ? if i the pirce is not accceptable the nthat is ok but at least it is price......bid my word are good enough to know what an auction is that is for poeples to go to get goods and if price is good fors me then good fors mei do not se anyones else biding down the doors here do you? |

Gambit690
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Posted - 2009.01.17 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Atariss I disagree with you I think a start of 2b is a good price for an indy char with Jump Freighter,
Indy Char? he has 256 thousand skill points in industry which is indy to 5 and mining to 1. The science skills are sci to 5 and Cybernetics to 4?
How is this an Indy Char - that's my point in the previous posts he is none of the professions he's all over the shop. and not worth what he is asking IMO.
If you want to pay 2 bil for him that's your choice. I wont. |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: littleodin on 17/01/2009 12:03:38
in an auction you are going to ask highest bider to not bid? what are you english doing or is you canadien???
got a bid ang go for mores is my idea even my bad bis is starting point in auction yes??
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Atariss
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:03:00 -
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If I wanted to transport my mins from low sec - this is the char I would use 
His main use is for Indy - just because his skills are in freighter that doesn't mean he isn't industrial - he would make a perfect match for my industrial operation making cap ships ,
Well Abdul I have provided you some free bumps today lol 
Good luck with this I reckon he will go for 2b+, lets see,
Atariss |

Gambit690
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:07:00 -
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But here you advise someone with 10 mil SP's that their char is worth between 2.5 and 3 bil??
and yet this char is worth the same with 7.5 mil? interesting.
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littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:07:00 -
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atarisss you is good alt to abdul are you not? |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:24:00 -
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preeeety sneekee you |

Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: littleodin preeeety sneekee you
Hmm Atariss is of no associates of me. |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:29:00 -
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i have changes my mind my old bid stil stands you got it still??? |

Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: littleodin i have changes my mind my old bid stil stands you got it still???
Yes still have the character for sale. |

littleodin
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Abdul Jalil
Originally by: littleodin 1.6 billion
I'm not even considering bid below 2 bill, as a normal freighter pilot goes for that.
well guessi am out of my league bid retracted too many nasties
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Daff Punk
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.01.17 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gambit690
Originally by: Atariss I disagree with you I think a start of 2b is a good price for an indy char with Jump Freighter,
Indy Char? he has 256 thousand skill points in industry which is indy to 5 and mining to 1. The science skills are sci to 5 and Cybernetics to 4?
How is this an Indy Char - that's my point in the previous posts he is none of the professions he's all over the shop. and not worth what he is asking IMO.
If you want to pay 2 bil for him that's your choice. I wont.
Fine, so your not going to bid 2 bil, incidentally the starting bid, then why do you feel the need to keep posting after you have stated this? In all honesty, you shouldn't have bid in the first place if you weren't going to match the starting bid.
All this nonsense about 100mil per 1m sp is a load of bull, the character is worth what its worth to the player selling and the player buying, nothing more, nothing less. The 100m/1m is merely a guideline for a very rough estimate.
Bump for a decent char, 4 days from a JF isn't long at all, and since when did Hauling not count as Industry? 
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Atariss
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Posted - 2009.01.17 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Atariss on 17/01/2009 13:36:58 Gambit
There is good reason for this. This char is designed for a purpose - to fly a Jump Freighter. If you want a jump freighter then this char is a good option.
The 10m sp char has a lot of skills but is not designed to do anything, thats why I have recommended the char is trained in HAC,
The skills in char creation should be designed with a purpose in mind to get the best value (i.e. hulk, hac, jump freighter, cap ships) hope this helps
Big up to Daff Punk, finally someone who knows what they are talking about 
Atariss 
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Darwin's Market
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Posted - 2009.01.17 13:38:00 -
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1.7
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lk smith
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Posted - 2009.01.17 14:31:00 -
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At the moment, the Anshar and other Jumpers are outperformed by the rorqual and cargo expanded dreads, in no way does it justify its high price tag when it is outperformed by cheaper, more versatile ships that survive much better.
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Segar20
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Posted - 2009.01.17 14:35:00 -
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3 bil bo
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Abdul Jalil
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Posted - 2009.01.17 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Segar20 3 bil bo
Confirming, Segar is the winnder of character Abdul Jalil for a buyout on 3 bil.
Awaiting isk.
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Daff Punk
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.01.17 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: lk smith At the moment, the Anshar and other Jumpers are outperformed by the rorqual and cargo expanded dreads, in no way does it justify its high price tag when it is outperformed by cheaper, more versatile ships that survive much better.
And so the fact that neither 'the rorqual' or 'cargo expanded dreads' can enter Hi-Sec or use Jump Gates makes them more versatile? |

Lady Moony
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Posted - 2009.01.17 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Moony on 17/01/2009 15:05:44
Originally by: Abdul Jalil Edited by: Abdul Jalil on 17/01/2009 14:44:44
Originally by: Segar20 3 bil bo
Confirming, Segar20 is the winnder of character Abdul Jalil for a buyout on 3 bil.
Awaiting isk.
Isk recieved, character sent.
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Segar20
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Posted - 2009.01.17 15:08:00 -
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char received, thx
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Atariss
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Posted - 2009.01.17 17:17:00 -
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Again proving that the trollers have no clue what chars are really worth!
I'm really pleased for you - nice char
Atariss 
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winning colors
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Posted - 2009.01.17 17:20:00 -
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or buyers.
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