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Rahyla
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Posted - 2009.01.17 20:59:00 -
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I mean besides some ISK, what is really the benefit on running missions? Drops aren't that great
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:01:00 -
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It is an infinite well of isk, I know a lot of people that make much more isk running missions than most players make in 0.0. They never die so that is why you see officer fit faction battleships literally everywhere in high sec.
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Braxo
Caldari
Spathiwa Defenders
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:02:00 -
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Gain standing, collect LP. storyline-missions pay nice..
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Captain Braxo - Manufacture & Production - Hadean Drive Yards |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 17/01/2009 21:04:45
Why does a game need to be about "gaining loots"? 
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Rahyla
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:05:00 -
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what is LP? and what is good about getting faction? Another rep grind is all another mmo needs..
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:08:00 -
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LP (or Loyalty Points) are used to purchase items from Agents. Gaining reputation lowers the cost of taxes when you sell items, and it also lowers the amount taken by the station when you reprocess items. |
Archadam
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Archadam on 17/01/2009 21:13:57
 Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 17/01/2009 21:04:45
Why does a game need to be about "gaining loots"?
Haven't you noticed? People are always burning through their musical instruments. Hence the need to always fight to get more loots.
Anyways, missions are for ISK, standing, and LP. It's a way of getting faction gear for use or sale, as well as an alternative to mining. Those rat gear that are useless reprocess fairly well if you mission fast enough. Plus, you get paid for it. |
Dark Soldat
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:14:00 -
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i lost a raven in a WC  |
Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:25:00 -
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As others have said; ISK, LP, standing.
Anyone who says they do them for fun or enjoyment is a dirty liar and must be suicide ganked that instant. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:27:00 -
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Don't forget about jump clones. Its handy to have them literally everywhere in empire if you play the standings game correctly. |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Don't forget about jump clones. Its handy to have them literally everywhere in empire if you play the standings game correctly.
Got that. And I've run maybe 20 missions ever. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:36:00 -
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Casual entertainment.
Can't belief no one has mentioned this yet.
It's a game, you know? |
Franga
Gristle Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:37:00 -
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For the cake. |
Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Franga
For the cake.
I thought that was a lie.  |
Dr Missy
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Franga
For the cake.
Cake or death? |
Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.17 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 17/01/2009 21:44:09
Originally by: Vaal Erit
It is an infinite well of isk, I know a lot of people that make much more isk running missions than most players make in 0.0. They never die so that is why you see officer fit faction battleships literally everywhere in high sec.
0.0 is a infinate well of isk , plus we have more than just rats and cosmos missions, we have the option of getting those faction spawns and we have exploration which empire doesn't have. aswell
i make suffient isk to entertain my pvp habbits, ive only lost one battleship in the month =)
unless your missioning for your pvp habit i dont see the point of just having the isk to spend on expensive ships like that just to then use it to make more isk.
0.0 if you rat correctly is basically triple BS hi bounty spawns over a number of belts that dont end. with small % of getting faction spawn, it quiet (you will be surprised considering it like 10% population of eve that lives in 0.0) and less laggy than mission systems, no ninja salvagers, contribute to the alliance market with your own industrial backbone, better pvp only a stone throw away, no concord
yeah you might say that you get a reward and all that but by the time you done you missions and had to kill off all those worthless, frigs cruiser and battlecruisers and the few battleships, to then go in another room and do the same so over all that time you may only kill 10 battleships in say a 2 room mission where i get 3 BS per spawn ( in a good pruned belt) and in that times could circle a system twice and do more isk over a time period ratting in 0.0
i believe 0.0 is the easier, more efficent and make more isk over a period of time, they say there the risk but pay attention to local and that cuts the risk down completely, empire has more risk as you make a mistake other people around can shoot you or you get concorded
and not even counting exploration which is basically a isk printing machine
which is better i would say 0.0 ( i still dont understand the premice of why people stay in empire i mean unlike empire where concord dont shoot at those blnky pods or what not for those peskey scouts, at least we can shoot what we like when they come into threat/area |
Arous Drephius
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Soldat
i lost a raven in a WC
Everyone has at some point.
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Djan Anaplian
Gallente
Chavs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:07:00 -
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People can't get round the moral issues of scamming so they mission.
Signaure removed. Not related to EVE Online in any way. Navigator |
Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
It is an infinite well of isk
BUT IS IT A LUCKY WISHING WELL? |
Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Arous Drephius
Originally by: Dark Soldat
i lost a raven in a WC
Everyone has at some point.
speak for yourself, plox |
Strak Yogorn
Amarr
Farmer Killers
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:32:00 -
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some ppl might have a little time to spend, but not enough to alliance ops etc ... |
Debonair Dan
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:34:00 -
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Because some people enjoy it?
One can easily reverse your question and ask.....why live in 0.0? Hi sec life suits many casual gamers rather well.
as it is, i personally make 90percent of my money trading, but i still run the odd mission.....why? because it beats the hell out of getting into a jump clone...ratting a few battleships, ****ting myself everytime someone pops in local, then getting ganked. |
Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:35:00 -
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Because its fun? |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
0.0 is a infinate well of isk , plus we have more than just rats and cosmos missions, we have the option of getting those faction spawns and we have exploration which empire doesn't have. aswell
Uhhh, no it isn't. There is a limited number of belts in 0.0 and a very limited amount of "good belts" in 0.0. Missions can give out faction spawns and exploration = who cares when you have a constant stream of isk in which no one can disrupt. A few hostiles can ruin a 0.0 ratting system and dedicated hostiles (hello afk cloakers) are far, far more disruptive than ninja salvagers. I've already had your alliance probe me out for an hour and a half in 0.0 while I was POS'd up. So I started watching t.v. and was constantly bewildered at how your prober couldn't get a hit.
Also, you do not get magic 3x BS spawns in every belt in 0.0. You can get a good chain after a few hours of ratting so you too have to kill worthless frigs and cruisers. Hauler spawns are nice but only when they are near station systems. Not everyone has sold their soul to BoB for good ratting systems, try looking at a variety of 0.0 space.
I've done ratting in high quality 0.0, done 0.0 exploration and high security high quality level 4 missions are by far the best for making isk for a solo player. I am immune to everything, don't have to watch any channels, can easily dock and refine/sell/buy anything I need and require no logistics except for maybe once a month to do a hauling trip to sell loot/salvage/rigs/LP items. However, I rat in 0.0 because I feel lame while making infinite amounts of isk with invincible logistics. A good corp using moon miners and teammwork via exploration can net a lot of isk, but I am talking about just going off solo to make money which is the majority of people.
One single high quality agent gives out missions to hundreds of thousands of players in a single system. You can ask around, 20-30m isk/hr is not unheard of for high sec missions when you count in LP and salvage and loot.
Originally by: Armoured C
unless your missioning for your pvp habit i dont see the point of just having the isk to spend on expensive ships like that just to then use it to make more isk.
Now here I completely agree with you. My theory is that mission runners play EVE like a normal WoW clone, they just grind for isk instead of exp/items. They grind more isk and get a CNR and add faction modules. I figure after they have their "perfect" faction fit most mission runners quit soon after as missions are insanely boring and uninteresting.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:41:00 -
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Never saw the point of it myself, running missions as a means to an end is understandable if you want/need isk for investment in assets or for pvp but why grind the same stupid missions over and over? it is not like they are challenging or fulfilling its just shooting at red crosses in "damsel in distress" for the 5th time that day so you can earn enough isk to by a new module that allows you to run it all again but with 1% greater tanking efficiency.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Never saw the point of it myself, running missions as a means to an end is understandable if you want/need isk for investment in assets or for pvp but why grind the same stupid missions over and over? it is not like they are challenging or fulfilling its just shooting at red crosses in "damsel in distress" for the 5th time that day so you can earn enough isk to by a new module that allows you to run it all again but with 1% greater tanking efficiency.
Signed. Not cos his a corpie. I actually hate Jhag. He pokes fun at my Moobs. And no, you carebears. I said MOOBS, not MOBS!
Despite that, i am actually working up so i can get misisons again.
As a little bit of info....depending on 0.0, depends on which is better. Stain is a fantastic place to live, and id live there for isk, rather than missions ANY DAY. But, when you live in places where the average spawn is 150k isk, and a 'wow battleship spawn' is 500k, thats farmed every day by the same people, always busy etc.....Which would you prefer? Thats the whole reason im getting my sec up for missions again. Not for the fun of missions, but for the well of isk, that is the same wherever you go. Compared to 00, where it varies.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.01.17 22:51:00 -
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Confirming Waxaus man boobs are epic. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.17 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Confirming Waxaus man boobs are epic.
Pics demanded. Or a drawing would suffice.
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Cirion Himling
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Posted - 2009.01.17 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rahyla
what is really the benefit on running missions?
Some people just can't take giving someone else the pleasure of blowing them up, so they do missions for their combat. Fact is though that as none of the missions are random you learn how to do them all in just a couple of days, thus making it almost impossible to lose. Then ships and modules are exchanged for faction items making, the already predictable mission, even easier. I've done missions to get the perfect reprocessing at certain stations and used to fire on each group to get full aggro, yet even that was no challenge. Show me a ship that can tank twenty of the same, plus support, while being webbed and scrammed in 0.0, not a chance. That's missions for you.
Missions provide the way to increase your standing and all the benefits that brings, but they're no challenge. Of course, if you measure your success by your own personal wallet then doing them makes you a winner. Just that nobody else sees you that way.
Imo the mission system needs a complete overhaul bringing the random factor into it and providing some challenge.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.17 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Zeba
Don't forget about jump clones. Its handy to have them literally everywhere in empire if you play the standings game correctly.
Got that. And I've run maybe 20 missions ever.
Yes and then there is the other 80% of eve who don't live in 0.0 and/or have access to clone vats. Besides I prefer all my jump clones in safe low sec stations that won't change hands on a whim. 
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