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Torothanax
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Posted - 2009.01.18 01:43:00 -
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I have "Connections" 5, "Diplomacy" 4, and "Criminal Connections" 2.
I look at my standings tab on the character sheet and the only modifiers I see are "Connections 5" and "Diplomacy 4".
And yes I do have some pirate contacts.
Where does "Criminal Connections" apply?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.18 02:26:00 -
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THEORETICALLY (sadly, in practice it's a little different):
* Diplomacy applies to all factions you have negative base standings with
* Connections aplies to all "positive to CONCORD" factions you have a positive base standings with
* Criminal Connections aplies to all "negative to CONCORD" factions you have a positive base standings with
Sadly, in practice, "Connections" also seems to apply to where only "Criminal Connections" is supposed to apply.
Wether it's a bug or a bug turned feature, right now "Criminal Connections" is a redundant skill.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2009.01.18 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Fullmetal Jackass on 18/01/2009 02:47:07
Are you sure about that? I was wondering the same thing a few months back.
How do you know?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.18 03:16:00 -
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It seems pretty obvious from the skill descriptions and the way effective standings are displayed in your own character sheet... |
Jeran Tek
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.18 20:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Criminal Connections Skill
Skill at interacting with criminal NPCs. 0.4 bonus to effective standing towards NPCs with low Concord standing. Not cumulative with Diplomacy or Connections....
Seems to me you don't have to have positive standings with them so you could get away with just this skill instead of both Diplomacy & Connections if you were only ever going to do Pirate Faction missions.
Still seems a bit silly that it's Rank 3 though. Rank 2 and it might be tempting for some people.
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Torothanax
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Posted - 2009.01.21 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jeran Tek
Originally by: Criminal Connections Skill
Skill at interacting with criminal NPCs. 0.4 bonus to effective standing towards NPCs with low Concord standing. Not cumulative with Diplomacy or Connections....
Seems to me you don't have to have positive standings with them so you could get away with just this skill instead of both Diplomacy & Connections if you were only ever going to do Pirate Faction missions.
Still seems a bit silly that it's Rank 3 though. Rank 2 and it might be tempting for some people.
I know what the skill description says but I'm with Akita on the way connections seems to over-ride criminal connections, that's why I asked here.
Does anyone else know anything about this? |
Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.01.21 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Myrhial Arkenath on 21/01/2009 08:51:03
I wondered about the same a while back and got a similar answer. People who have the skill trained all confirm the same. I got all 3 skills at 4 and all factions are either affected by connections or diplo.
Akita, where do you read though that connections would apply to positive with concord only? |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.21 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Akita, where do you read though that connections would apply to positive with concord only?
Nowhere.
But if it wouldn't be like that (it isn't like that, like repeatedly confirmed) it would make no sense to even have Criminal Connections in the first place, since it would be completely redundant (as it now is).
Now, it would make sense if Criminal Connections was a rank 2 (or even preferably a rank 1) skill, but it's rank 3, the same as Connections.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.01.21 19:38:00 -
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Got a point there. Bug report if you haven't already then. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.21 19:42:00 -
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It's been broken for so long, it's no longer a bug but a feature 
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Wadaya
Caldari
Trailerpark Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.21 20:27:00 -
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The skill isn't broken so much as it is pointless. The only reason to have this skill is so you can be a pimp Tripoli wannabe. The skill would need to be stackable with Diplomacy or Connections to be worth anything.
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Torothanax
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Posted - 2009.01.22 04:25:00 -
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Unintended features and poor skill descriptions for the win.
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