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MearKat
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Posted - 2009.01.20 06:30:00 -
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Can we have Salvage Drones please?
Perhaps skill requirements along the lines of:
Mechanic - Salvage Rank 5 (minimum requirement)
Drones - Salvage Drones Rank 1
(Proficiency at Drone salvaging of ship wrecks. Required skill for the use of salvage drones. 5% increase in chance of salvage retrieval per drone. One salvage drone per level.)
I think another Skill requirement at level 5 should be in here as well, perhaps Science - Astrometrics Rank 5 (minimum requirement)
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Brutal Bruno
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:53:00 -
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There was a skill for salvaging drones, but was pulled out few days later. I¦m not sure there will be salvaging drones but your not the only one that want¦s them. |
ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.01.20 12:04:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=972612
my thread here covers a slightly different angle but a 2-6 hour timeframe where wrecks if uncliamed by ownder ship to a free for all general ownership and scannable wreck system would nullify the need
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WAuter
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.21 16:31:00 -
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No salvaging drones plz...
Salvager + tractor beam = win |
Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 17:14:00 -
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Won't happen. CCP was working on salvaging drones but technical limitations of the server stopped them from releasing them.
They talked about it in one of the fanfest videos this past year, it was in the video with the large panel of CCP employees and the audience was asking questions. Basically if your cargo was full when the salvage drone came back to you, it would attempt to pass the item over to you and would fail and the item would disappear from the drone's inventory.
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Arous Drephius
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.21 17:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Phantom Slave
Basically if your cargo was full when the salvage drone came back to you, it would attempt to pass the item over to you and would fail and the item would disappear from the drone's inventory.
Nothing wrong with that. If you want to salvage stuff, make sure to not fill your cargo hold. Simple.
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WardogX
Minmatar
Outkasts
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Posted - 2009.01.21 20:22:00 -
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I think the reason they yanked salvage drone concept is that you can only harvest a wreck 1 time (suceed or fail) where as something like mining you can typically harvest more then 1 time before the rock vanishes.. so minign drones makes sense when combined with mining lasers.
Since we have salvage lasers why do we need salvage drones too since wrecks can only be harvested once? see what I mean? |
Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: WardogX
I think the reason they yanked salvage drone concept is that you can only harvest a wreck 1 time (suceed or fail) where as something like mining you can typically harvest more then 1 time before the rock vanishes.. so minign drones makes sense when combined with mining lasers.
Since we have salvage lasers why do we need salvage drones too since wrecks can only be harvested once? see what I mean?
Why do we need salvage drones? Maybe because your typical salvage build (scanner/tractor pair) can only grab a wreck 19km out, and start scanning at 5km. Whereas a sniper Domi could send out a wing of Salvage Drones to clean up wrecks from 250km or more.
Even without such an extreme example... a lot of people use drones for extra DPS. So why can't they use drones to help with other tasks? Fit a salvager/tractor, and then deploy a wing of drones. Now you're cleaning up after your mission faster, instead of having to drag them all in yourself.
Along this same idea... why do drones have Cargo Capacity listed, and yet can't carry anything? To those ends, why not let drones collect the loot from ships as well. I know, I know... this sounds like a properly trained Gallente could sit back and let their drones kill, loot, and salvage without any effort on their part... but doesn't it stand to reason that a society which relies on drones, would have devised the means to do more than just shoot with them?
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Don't take my ranting personally. I may just be arguing the topic, unless you're saying something stupid, and then I mean every word.
"Players don't want Variety. They want THE BEST" |
NightF0x
Gallente
Ardent Industrial
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: MearKat
Can we have Salvage Drones please?
Can you learn to read the stickies before you make a thread on a topic that is brought up every week? No? Well then you don't deserve salvage drones and the Devs apparently think the same.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x
Can you learn to read the stickies before you make a thread on a topic that is brought up every week?
Can anyone? No... which is why the exact same topics are re-suggested, re-discussed, re-evaluated, and subsequently re-buried in the annals of history (any pages past about 2-3).
Perhaps CCP should take note of how often the exact same topics arise, and realize that simply ignoring the problem won't make it go away. And simply pushing any relevant topic up for discussion, into F&I where they never respond to any thread, EVER...
You get the idea.
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Don't take my ranting personally. I may just be arguing the topic, unless you're saying something stupid, and then I mean every word.
"Players don't want Variety. They want THE BEST" |
NightF0x
Gallente
Ardent Industrial
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: NightF0x on 22/01/2009 00:29:59
Originally by: Marcus Gideon
Originally by: NightF0x
Can you learn to read the stickies before you make a thread on a topic that is brought up every week?
Can anyone? No... which is why the exact same topics are re-suggested, re-discussed, re-evaluated, and subsequently re-buried in the annals of history (any pages past about 2-3).
Perhaps CCP should take note of how often the exact same topics arise, and realize that simply ignoring the problem won't make it go away. And simply pushing any relevant topic up for discussion, into F&I where they never respond to any thread, EVER...
You get the idea.
Or perhaps it would be better for CCP to have a suggestion box and they post what they want opinions on in F&I for us to discuss the pros and cons of instead of everyone being able to create topics on the whim. |
Vaerla Myshtana
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.01.22 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x
Originally by: MearKat
Can we have Salvage Drones please?
Can you learn to read the stickies before you make a thread on a topic that is brought up every week? No? Well then you don't deserve salvage drones and the Devs apparently think the same.
It sounds like they were attempted but the code was frakked up. I wouldn't be surprised to see them tried again with different code sometime down the line. They really are just too darn useful and the Gallente would definitely have cooked some up eventually.
Besides, the DPS we'd gain from not fitting a tractor beam and salvager is probably not equivalent to the loss of the drones, especially if the salvage drones are a bigger size, say 10m^3 or 15m^3.
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