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Leonid Andropov
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:04:00 -
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Is there some kind of website for this, kind of like a CNN for Eve? |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:04:00 -
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Hey, my brother! |
Bane Necran
317
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:05:00 -
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EVEnews24, but it's very biased, so maybe more like Fox. |
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:09:00 -
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**********.
too bad its censored. |
ShootsBlues McAwoxer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:10:00 -
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Takes a bit of surfing and discerning, but the best site for eve political news is a site that starts with www.kug and ends with utsumen.com...
just to test if theyre still censoring the site on the forums if I type it directecly: www.**********.com
edit: yep. still censored. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
810
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:14:00 -
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I hear Fox News is fair and balanced regarding all things political.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:25:00 -
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as has been mentioned before - the EVE Online Uncensored subforum on kugutsumen.com is your best bet as many of the actual actors post their view of events and their propaganda there.
for a (maybe?) less polemic account of events you can try the War & Politics board on failheap-challenge.com; shc used to be a good source for battlereports but I don't know if fhc has managed to continue that tradition.
if you read russian eve-ru.com is apparently good as well - due to the language barrier the rest of the eve universe has only a hazy understanding of what's going on in its russian corner and you usually can't count on English sites/forums to give you accurate information.
EN24 is just regurgitating whatever "news" is fed to them. Occasionally entertaining but usually a few days behind current events and extremely little original content. |
Leonid Andropov
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:27:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:EVEnews24, but it's very biased, so maybe more like Fox.
Balanced towards/against whom? |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:28:00 -
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Leonid Andropov wrote:Bane Necran wrote:EVEnews24, but it's very biased, so maybe more like Fox. Balanced towards/against whom?
biased against the very idea of quality journalism |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
235
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:29:00 -
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Kugu requires some effort and patience.
en24 is "good enough", and will give you a decent picture of what's going on, though it is slower and spottier than kugu.
Edit: k, just got up, sorry. ":accurate and in depth" is kugu. That's it. |
ShootsBlues McAwoxer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:34:00 -
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Leonid Andropov wrote:Bane Necran wrote:EVEnews24, but it's very biased, so maybe more like Fox. Balanced towards/against whom?
Biased towards anyone who Riverini doesn't like. He's a sad bitter Panamanian who runs the site and tried to leverage it into a CSM seat (unsuccessfully). He especially hates goons, seems to also dislike the Russian alliances, and tends to find childish ways to go after whoever he doesnt like. My utter lack of respect for him makes going to the site rather hard. If you're looking for honest assessment of 0.0 politics then EN24 is not for you. His skills with the English language are quit lacking also.
Best way to keep up on things is to look around kugu and try to piece it together yourself. |
Az'Kagoth
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
39
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:38:00 -
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Frankly, Evenews24 is biased toward getting CCP to implement a "drop da panties butan". |
Whitehound
145
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Posted - 2012.04.18 13:40:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Leonid Andropov wrote:Bane Necran wrote:EVEnews24, but it's very biased, so maybe more like Fox. Balanced towards/against whom? biased against the very idea of quality journalism
Not only are they bad, but they did several articles in favour of RMTs and later published lists of what they believed to be players doing RMT... They only give me headaches and I rather have a woman crap in my face than to read another article on their site. |
Bane Necran
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:04:00 -
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Leonid Andropov wrote:Balanced towards/against whom?
It's pretty limited to 0.0 events, and a 0.0 perspective. I can't find it now, but i'm sure i even remember one of the submission guidelines being that they aren't interested in hisec events. Which is unusual, because that's where the majority of players are, and where most player created news occurs. it seems to be mainly used by 0.0 players to shame their victims and boast about their accomplishments, but much like KMs, no one really cares except those who were involved
Although, they're a good source for CCP related news. Tracking dev comments and whatnot, along with anything related to upcoming changes/patches. I'll give them that.
Also, what the above posters mentioned. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:14:00 -
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actually from my POV EN24 went through several phases
first, they just cross-posted stuff from kugu (often without the original author's permission) with 1-2 days delay
then, they tried to focus on actual journalism: providing original content, fleshing out intel leads into full stories, ...
The only problem was that their writers were terrible at English and lacked basic journalistic skills (as in "how do I structure an article?", "what formats of articles are there?", "opinion vs fact", ...) - if only there was a decent online reference/guide one could use for orientation....
During that time EN24 had at least one editor who could actually write English but having him rewrite each story before publication lead to huge delays and was unfeasible.
finally, they realized that the less of their own writing showed up in their stories, the better the reception by readers.
So they turned EN24 into an aggregator of various eve-related blogs, started posting news leads as "raw intel" without any journalistic follow up and crosspost battle reports from various outside sources. Nowadays most content is user submitted and very little is written by EN24 staff. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
726
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:25:00 -
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Leonid Andropov wrote:Is there some kind of website for this, kind of like a CNN for Eve?
I'm sorry, but "accurate" and "political information" are terms that rarely ever cross paths with one another.
Here's your sign... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
543
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Posted - 2012.04.18 14:27:00 -
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Any News Site about a Game is going to be biased by it's very nature. Derrrrrrr 
For anything accurate, better luck monitoring Sov in DOTLAn.
There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Zverofaust
Martyr's Vengence
Test Alliance Please Ignore
90
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Posted - 2012.04.18 17:24:00 -
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Yeah, it's been said but I thought I'd reiterate, Evenews24's problem is that it pretty much has absolutely no idea what journalism really is, has virtually no vetting procedure for article submissions and just plasters up everything it gets without a second thought. Occasionally there'll be something decent up there, written by someone completely unrelated to EN24, but most of the time articles are clearly just lipsmacking exercises from would-be forum warriors. I've been hoping for awhile that as it grew it would mature into a more credible and legitimate source of information but this never happened. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
544
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:01:00 -
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Zverofaust wrote:Yeah, it's been said but I thought I'd reiterate, Evenews24's problem is that it pretty much has absolutely no idea what journalism really is, has virtually no vetting procedure for article submissions and just plasters up everything it gets without a second thought.
It's a Sandbox site ! 
There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Thundering Herd
169
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Posted - 2012.04.18 20:04:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:EVEnews24, but it's very biased, so maybe more like Fox.
Or CNN, or MSNBC ...
What we need is a BBC flavor
Nothing clever at this time. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.04.18 20:13:00 -
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Evenews24 is worse than the worst tabloid - mainly because Riverini (sp?) is an idiot and they often just repost a collection of blogs.
Kugu usually has some good information but usually you have to shuffle through tons of worthless spam.
Failheap challenge may not be that bad - actually has some quite good BRs, but I can't really tell as I never frequented SHC or FHC that often.
You know... morons. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2012.04.19 02:59:00 -
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EVE-O is ree-tarded, probably due to the mental faculties of its posters.
Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
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