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Saracena
Minmatar
Infinatech
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Posted - 2009.01.21 08:43:00 -
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How much higher is this than regular invention? I've just failed on try #4 for an ark....and the fact that I copy my own bpo's, and hunt down my own decryptors doesn't make this any less of huge financial sinkhole. My skills are excellent, top of the line decryptors each time...
I don't believe I'll be trying for #5 (too bloody expensive to risk expanding my losing streak). But curiosity makes me ask, how big has your streaks of bad luck been for JF invention? It was my understanding that there was a significantly better chance of inventing them than say, t2 battleships for instance. Have you all found this to be true?
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.01.21 09:45:00 -
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before i complicate things with numerous if-then-else, try chruker's invention chance page |
B1FF
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Posted - 2009.01.21 11:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Roemy Schneider
before i complicate things with numerous if-then-else, try chruker's invention chance page
Everyone needs to remember that the above link is a guess at best and in no way official. we have no official info on invention success chance.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.01.21 13:11:00 -
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it may be a guess and now way offical but he did a shed load of tests and they seem to bear out with those that bother to record success and fails
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Feronia
Gallente
Magma Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:17:00 -
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I've done 225 JF inventions so far. The longest streak of bad luck has been 8 failures, but I had several 7 and 6 failures in a row.
The invention chance on Chruker's page is about right, mine is a bit lower.
In the end it all evens out, but I agree, it's a very good Isk sink.
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Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:34:00 -
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A very useful link for a budding inventor (my alt not me). So far I have not invented anything yet so my loosing streak is still at 0 just like my winning one. 
As for what I will invent? Since it is an alt and it doesn't need to produce any income I am just training for everything, most likely starting with rigs for inventing since they are nice and small and look to have a decent margin on them. |
Braaage
Ministry of Craft
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Posted - 2009.01.21 18:50:00 -
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I make JFs and I get around 3 successes out of 4 tries on average with max skills.
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Pedro Montana
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Posted - 2009.01.21 21:15:00 -
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I got 5 of 5 successes on nomad..sold 4 of the bpcs to pay for the materials for the one I built..and swore never to try again.
Though to make you feel better..this was right after a streak of 18 rapier attempt failures in a row.
Over time it averages out..but i get alot of streaks.
Maybe fix the random number generator (Feed the gerbil more?)
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.01.22 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: Roemy Schneider
before i complicate things with numerous if-then-else, try chruker's invention chance page
Everyone needs to remember that the above link is a guess at best and in no way official. we have no official info on invention success chance.
The decryptor stats and base chances are not a guess they are in the publicly available data dumps. The skills / meta mods info was based off thousands of attempts and quite probably a whisper from a dev. Either way, if you assume that the chance is what the base + decryptor is, you will be unlikely to lose isk in the long term. And anything you get from skills / meta mods is a bonus ;)
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How much higher is this than regular invention? I've just failed on try #4 for an ark....and the fact that I copy my own bpo's, and hunt down my own decryptors doesn't make this any less of huge financial sinkhole. My skills are excellent, top of the line decryptors each time...
You'll have to explain exactly which decryptor.
For JF invention, the choice is particularly important, and the ME penalty can make quite a difference to your profitability. So can the PE modifier to your turnover.
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