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Marisal
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Posted - 2009.01.21 17:58:00 -
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/hirai-were-the-official-industry-leader
One of the funniest articles i've read in years and the comments are just priceless
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Arvald
Caldari
Vengeance of the Fallen
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.21 18:36:00 -
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best comment to that article is
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**** off. **** right off. ****, the ****ety ****, right the **** off.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 21/01/2009 19:57:57
Oh Wow, are Sony getting that desperate in the video game market? Bawwwww.
The comments are great though.
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I'm king of the world. This is not meant in terms of numbers, or who's got the most subjects, or who's got the biggest country, but I'd like to think that I continue official leadership of the world
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>You need a word that describes something that lacks longevity
>PS3?
This one made me laugh though:
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Developer: Hey, Kaz, your console is too **** to program on. Uses too much time and money for a rather small userbase.
Kaz: You're just too stupid, learn it and you love it.
Developer: **** you, let's go and program on the 360. At least, there we make some money.
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Marc Bastalle
Prometheus Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.21 19:58:00 -
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"It's difficult to talk about Nintendo, because we don't look at their console as being a competitor. They're a different world, and we operate in our world - that's the kind of way I look at things.
About the only thing he's right about.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Marc Bastalle
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"It's difficult to talk about Nintendo, because we don't look at their console as being a competitor. They're a different world, and we operate in our world - that's the kind of way I look at things.
About the only thing he's right about.
It's a good method of directly ignoring your competition whilst it curb stomps you.
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Bomberos
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Posted - 2009.01.21 20:58:00 -
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Hes right about the wii and xbox. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.21 21:01:00 -
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xbox 360 lacks longevity, luckily then can just plop out the xbox 1080, which will be easy to program for and technically superior to ps3, by a leap and a bound (if not more). when the ps3 is deep into its 10 year plan. |
Marisal
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Posted - 2009.01.21 21:08:00 -
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Love the theory of making it harder to program for so theres still stuff to be discovered a few years down the line... ofcourse by then the ps3's technology will be dated we'll all be using super uber pink ray discs and playing with vr goggles, while sonys still pluggin the ps3 ms will be plugging the xbox 1080 with the new technology onboard and the casual gamer market will be dominated by the Wii II. |
Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.21 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Cedric Diggory on 21/01/2009 21:20:19
I wouldn't wait for the X-Box 1080 if I were you. Whilst it will indeed come (and will probably have an even worse name than the X-Box), I think you'll find it won't be significantly more powerful than the PS3 currently is as we're almost at the wall in terms of what we can do with silicon.
In case you hadn't noticed, Moore's law has finally broken which is in part why chip manufacturers are focusing so much on cramming multiple cores onto a single slice. It's not that we can't go faster, it's that we can't cool the components down enough.
The other thing in the PS3's defense is that it's using the USB interface, so all that's required to support the latest gadgetry is an update to the system software, whereas at present both the Wii and X-Box are clinging to their proprietary (reshaped USB) connectors.
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.01.21 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Brea Lafail on 21/01/2009 21:36:19
Most damning evidence against the PS3: People are still buying PS2s. People are still making games for the PS2. Any video store near me, has more shelfspace for PS2 games than PS3. The only person I know with a PS3 is a drug dealer. He also has a remote controlled jet. Yeah, like a model plane with turbine engines. What were we talking about.
Of course, the other end of the PS3's life will look like the PS2 does now. There'll be the nintendo Habjeba (you heard it here first), the xbox 365, the PS4 is limited numbers, and people will finally start to make good games for the PS3.
P.S.
Originally by: Cedric Diggory
It's not that we can't go faster, it's that we can't cool the components down enough.
I would call that into question, but is for another thread. In terms of pure hardware, the PS3 is so dominant over the other two consoles, it may cause mind-blowing in prone individuals. This is why the next x-box will possibly still be lacking behind the PS3 on hardware.
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.21 21:58:00 -
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Yep, the PS3 is ridiculously well spec'd. I'll freely admit that the thought of a six cell system did have me drooling!
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The only person I know with a PS3 is a drug dealer. He also has a remote controlled jet. Yeah, like a model plane with turbine engines. What were we talking about.
Really? They were giving the 40Gb ones away at Carphone Warehouse in the UK with a ú15/month 12-month contract. Granted the phone was ****, but I'll take a PS3 for ú180, thank-you-very-much! I'm also yet to meet someone who has actually spent some time using the machine and hasn't decided that they want one. It's also free to play online (which the X-Box is not) and is significantly quieter than the X-Box.
It also doesn't look like the illicit child of Steve Jobs, unlike the other consoles around just now.
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Marisal
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Posted - 2009.01.21 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cedric Diggory
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I dub thee ps3 fanboi... don't take that too badly it means you have product loyalty which is always good just as long as u can admit sometimes things can go wrong.
Moore's law hasn't been broken yet... we can see the day it will be though multi core is just a side step and will probably hit its own limits before we actually get up against the fundamental barrier of Moore's law besides we're but a few years away from optical or biological based processors
usb isn't a defence when it costs a couple of dollars to go pick up a bit of molded plastic and metal that just converts from their weird plugs to standard usb.
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.21 22:12:00 -
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I dub thee ps3 fanboi... don't take that too badly it means you have product loyalty which is always good just as long as u can admit sometimes things can go wrong.
You know something wierd? I've always loathed Sony. I don't like their overpriced TV's, monitors, laptops nor their horrible proprietary audio formats and although I did own the original Playstation, I didn't bother with the PS2. The PS3 converted me, and on that basis I'll happily put my hand up and admit to being a fanboi. They've done a cracking job on the PS3, plain and simple.
The only problem I've found with it is the price, and given that I managed to sidestep that... |
MAJE ML
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Posted - 2009.01.21 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Cedric Diggory
Edited by: Cedric Diggory on 21/01/2009 21:20:19
I wouldn't wait for the X-Box 1080 if I were you. Whilst it will indeed come (and will probably have an even worse name than the X-Box), I think you'll find it won't be significantly more powerful than the PS3 currently is as we're almost at the wall in terms of what we can do with silicon.
In case you hadn't noticed, Moore's law has finally broken which is in part why chip manufacturers are focusing so much on cramming multiple cores onto a single slice. It's not that we can't go faster, it's that we can't cool the components down enough.
The other thing in the PS3's defense is that it's using the USB interface, so all that's required to support the latest gadgetry is an update to the system software, whereas at present both the Wii and X-Box are clinging to their proprietary (reshaped USB) connectors.
I dont know about that. Dont for get since ps3 xbox and wii have come out 45nm cpus have developed and 32nm arnt far off now. Lets not for get IBM and there consortium have created a 22nm but thats still a 2 years way.
I think they could pull off a faster system. They could put in 16 cpu cores and 4 gpu cores with 4gb of ram.
Dont for get they are not bound buy software producers unlike PCs instead they create the hardware and the software is written for it.
Buck on topic: Wow someone has been smoken crack to much |
MooKids
Caldari
Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2009.01.21 22:44:00 -
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That is sad. PS3 is losing the numbers in the console war, losing big name exclusives (Final Fantasy XIII, Ace Combat, Resident Evil) and doesn't have many great games, yet they still claim to be the best? |
Marc Bastalle
Prometheus Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.21 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Marc Bastalle
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"It's difficult to talk about Nintendo, because we don't look at their console as being a competitor. They're a different world, and we operate in our world - that's the kind of way I look at things.
About the only thing he's right about.
It's a good method of directly ignoring your competition whilst it curb stomps you.
Not really, as the Wii and PS3 appeal to so completely different target audiences. The guy buying a PS3 would in most cases not even concider a Wii, and vice versa.
Personally, I'm well happy with my Xbox360 tbh. And, I think the console era is more or less over. Todays consoles are becoming more and more like pc's, and soon(ish) the boundry between a livingroom "media-pc" and a console will be gone. Developing and launching new consoles is becoming so insanely costly that to top what is already available, it will be hard just to break even with a new generation consoles. Hell... Sony hasn't managed it yet, and probably won't for a long time, with THIS generation console.
Nintendo on their side hit just the right spot. They made gaming fun and entertaining with the Wii. You know, what it's supposed to be. Rather than being a race of specs, graphics and realistic physics, while the fun factor and playability more often than not are completely forgotten, or at least stuck in the back seat. |
Marisal
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Posted - 2009.01.22 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Marc Bastalle
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Marc Bastalle
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"It's difficult to talk about Nintendo, because we don't look at their console as being a competitor. They're a different world, and we operate in our world - that's the kind of way I look at things.
About the only thing he's right about.
It's a good method of directly ignoring your competition whilst it curb stomps you.
Not really, as the Wii and PS3 appeal to so completely different target audiences. The guy buying a PS3 would in most cases not even concider a Wii, and vice versa.
Personally, I'm well happy with my Xbox360 tbh. And, I think the console era is more or less over. Todays consoles are becoming more and more like pc's, and soon(ish) the boundry between a livingroom "media-pc" and a console will be gone. Developing and launching new consoles is becoming so insanely costly that to top what is already available, it will be hard just to break even with a new generation consoles. Hell... Sony hasn't managed it yet, and probably won't for a long time, with THIS generation console.
Nintendo on their side hit just the right spot. They made gaming fun and entertaining with the Wii. You know, what it's supposed to be. Rather than being a race of specs, graphics and realistic physics, while the fun factor and playability more often than not are completely forgotten, or at least stuck in the back seat.
Your a lil wrong on on a couple of things there the console era isn't over and will continue on for quite a while even though their basically pc's interms of hardware now for one specific reason... there a fixed setup of hardware thats makes things incredibly easier to develop for when you know the limitations of what the hardware can do you can design to that specification... pc's can be all over the place in terms of hardware setups and a game needs to be developed to be acceptable on a wide range of these thus needs more development time to be able to have a wide range of compatibility settings, it will also require far more bug testing pre and post launch to find those errors that crap up on odd quirky setups. Tbh as consoles become more and more pc based they'll gain the advantages that the pc market had for all these years which was modding which frankly extended the shelf life of many a game (cite Half-Life), while retaining the core console advantage of ease of development for a specific hardware setup. |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.22 08:43:00 -
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This is not meant in terms of numbers, or who's got the biggest install base, or who's selling most in any particular week or month, but I'd like to think that we continue official leadership in this industry
Does he even believe himself? 
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DubanFP
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.01.22 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
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This is not meant in terms of numbers, or who's got the biggest install base, or who's selling most in any particular week or month, but I'd like to think that we continue official leadership in this industry
Does he even believe himself?
I hope not. If so the little white suit with the long sleeves isn't too far away.
Anyways the biggest problem with the PS3 is what he falsely called its strong point. The 360 is a rather crapy console considering standards of the last 4 generations of consoles, but I must admit Microsoft did one thing that guarenteed its victory. Its system is heavily based on the PC "what microsoft already knows how to do".
A developer makes a game for the PS3, ok good game. Oh hey, it would only cost a few thousand dollars to port this to the 360 with its simple and basic PC-like system. We're almost guarenteed to make the money back and then some by porting it over, lets do it.
A developer makes a game for the 360, ok good game. What if we port it the PS3? Hmm could be a bit costly and time consuming as the PS3 is a rather difficult and specialized system. We'll need to do some risk analysis and wiegh the pros and cons of the decision.
It doesn't matter how bad the system is. It more or less guarentees that the 360 will have a superior lineup of games. There's virtually no reason to make a PS3 exclusive game while there's ample reason to make a 360 exclusive. On top of that as the 360 rises and the PS3 drops there's even less of a reason to port a 360 game over to the PS3 meaning it'll only get worse in the forseeable future.
This is a very bad thing for consoles in general if you ask me, but I have to admit Microsoft knows how to win a computer war even if it is at the cost of the industry.
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Chances are I'm better then you, and I know it. Yes, I AM egocentric when it comes to this game, but if I wanted to care about others I wouldn't be playing EVE now would I. |
Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.01.22 11:15:00 -
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"So it's a kind of - I wouldn't say a double-edged sword - but it's hard to program for, and a lot of people see the negatives of it, but if you flip that around, it means the hardware has a lot more to offer,"
... did this strike anyone else as just a non-sequitor? |
sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.22 11:26:00 -
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look at all them bitter xbox owners
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Alex Raptos
Caldari
The Firestorm Millennium
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Posted - 2009.01.22 13:58:00 -
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We have nothing to be bitter about. |
Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.22 14:03:00 -
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look at all them bitter xbox owners
QFT!
The arguments in favour of the X-Box now are exactly the same arguments given by Sony fanbois when the X-Box was outclassing the PS2.
The Wii is of course something completely different, but the bottom line is that the PS3 is simply an aweseome piece of kit; if money were no object, there's simply no reason to buy an X-Box over a PS3. |
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2009.01.22 15:01:00 -
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I don't get why anyone would buy a 360 when you can get the same game on the PC 6 months later. |
jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.22 16:34:00 -
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*creeps in * dumps his Wii down and starts bowling  ... but back on track..... some of the comments really were priceless  |
Irida Mershkov
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.22 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Last Wolf
I don't get why anyone would buy a 360 when you can get the same game on the PC 6 months later.
DRM.
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Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2009.01.22 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Last Wolf
I don't get why anyone would buy a 360 when you can get the same game on the PC 6 months later.
DRM.
This.
(currently considering a PS3 because of DRM making games too much hassle) |
Captain Hudson
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.22 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Hudson on 22/01/2009 19:34:39
fatal mistake sony made was making the thing so darn expensive, had they relesed a version without blueray i proberly would have bought it, but as it is i went out and bought a xbox for half the price, glad i did!
Iv found him |
Straight Chillen
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.22 21:07:00 -
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TBH i love my playstation 3 & my xbox 360. But really i think they are completly different beasts. The graphics on PS3 games are astounding (games made from the ground up for ps3, not the crappy ports). Online play is definitly better on 360.
And having linux on my PS3 is pretty fckin awesome in its own right. |
Iva Soreass
Blind Violence
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Posted - 2009.01.22 21:14:00 -
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I have all 3 consoles (yes sad i know !) and i have always been a epic sony fanboy but damn i just dont buy games for the ps3 i dont play it fullstop! it sits upstairs in our bedroom as a dvd player and comes down now n then so i can watch blu ray films on my hd tv.
The xbox for me is so much fun, all my mates have a xbox (some like me have both) and all play the xbox. I really wish the ps3 would get better and bring out better titles but they are just meh atm :( |
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