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Hera Fyrestus
Men of the Knights Watch The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.04.18 22:01:00 -
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Been trying all day to get Singularity on my mac, seems pretty much impossible. Every time to launch it, it either loads up Crucible and tranquility, or it loads up Inferno and tranquility, but the server is an incompatible version, or it says that the singularity server is down and when it launches the login screen it just says checking status on server and version, or it simply fails to launch all together. I have been trying since 9am to get this to work, it is now 5pm and i am about ready to throw my mac out a window. i have posted for help in the Macintosh forum, and the test server forum, but no one either knows how to help or they just dont want to. So someone please help me out here.
thanks for any ideas.
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Arch Ange1
Pelican. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.04.18 22:05:00 -
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Had the same problem. Petitioned ccp and a GM said they can't do anything officially. He suggested we post on test server feedback and hope for the best.  |

Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.19 02:41:00 -
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You have to have a computer to access Singularity. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |

Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.19 02:49:00 -
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Hi, you're a Mac, and Im a PC. I can play games. GLHF GG. Ferox #1 |

Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2012.04.19 03:00:00 -
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Saving this page to use against future MAC fanboys who claim MACs never have problems. |

Arch Ange1
Pelican. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.04.19 05:43:00 -
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We dint want sisi anyway.. pfft.. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.04.19 05:59:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Saving this page to use against future MAC fanboys who claim MACs never have problems. Why would your media access control have a problem? It's just a number GÇö it would have to be the network adapter that has a problem.
Also, do hardware identification numbers have fanboys these days?! That'sGǪ pretty weird.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.04.19 06:01:00 -
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Hera Fyrestus wrote:I have been trying since 9am to get this to work, it is now 5pm and i am about ready to throw my mac out a window. i have posted for help in the Macintosh forum, and the test server forum, but no one either knows how to help or they just dont want to. So someone please help me out here.
Did you try petitioning CCP?
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Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:03:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:You have to have a computer to access Singularity. Wahahahahaha.
Fredfredbug4 wrote:Saving this page to use against future MAC fanboys who claim MACs never have problems.
Don't forget the girls.
But seriously, if someone buys a Mac, they buy it because they want something that is different.
Some advice here that you might not want to hear, or perhaps won't even believe/understand: THERE IS NOTHING A MAC CAN DO, THAT A PC CAN'T ( besides be more expensive ) and THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LOT'S OF THINGS PC's CAN DO, THAT MAC's CAN'T.
Now sure, the next poster might think he or she knows better, but no, it's the truth, so deal with it.
On another note, i quit my last job, because they decided to switch to mac. If you can't comprehend why, try looking at this for example: 200 new pc's cost 200 x 600 euro's ( average price ) = 120.000 euro's. 200 new mac's cost 200 x 1300 euro's ( which was the exact price of the mac's in question ) = 260.000 euro's
So boss, you couldn't just raise my salary?? Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:05:00 -
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Hera Fyrestus wrote:i am about ready to throw my mac out a window.
DO IT, DO IT!!!!!! lol
Top tip, install VMWARE and run Windows 7 virtually. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:06:00 -
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People always think the best use of capital is to raise their salaries. You don't hear a whisper about job performance and actually deserving a raise. We all know you're working out of the goodness of your heart, anyway. Buck up! Don't sully the idealism!
(It takes a MAC user to try "all day" to get it to do something it clearly isn't going to do. Better to feel messiantic than do something that makes sense.) I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:08:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:People always think the best use of capital is to raise their salaries. You don't hear a whisper about job performance and actually deserving a raise. We all know you're working out of the goodness of your heart, anyway. Buck up! Don't sully the idealism!
But i got a new job, which did give me a higher salary, which is actually only 1% above average, whereas my last job was 5% below it. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:10:00 -
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Statisticians use statistics much like a drunk uses a lamppost; more for propping themselves up than for illumination. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:16:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Statisticians use statistics much like a drunk uses a lamppost; more for propping themselves up than for illumination.
Count the amount of people that work in that sector, add up all their salary's, divide by amount of people, get average salary. What's wrong with that? Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Joran Dravius
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.19 10:49:00 -
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I know exactly what the problem is.
You bought a mac for gaming. |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.04.19 11:18:00 -
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Joran Dravius wrote:I know exactly what the problem is.
You bought a mac for gaming.
Neh, that's just a side track. It's because we want to be productive all day. Not some moments of a day .
Edit: without trolling or baiting: OP, check the macintosh forum. If you have any Mac related questions you are better of there then (as you can read) here. Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.04.19 11:23:00 -
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I thought the whole concept about a Mac was its sleek design and out-of-box experience. Talk about hassle! I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.04.19 11:24:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:(It takes a MAC user to try "all day" to get it to do something it clearly isn't going to do. Better to feel messiantic than do something that makes sense.) Everyone on these forums is a MAC user.
Mark Androcius wrote:THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LOT'S OF THINGS PC's CAN DO, THAT MAC's CAN'T. Such as?
Quote:On another note, i quit my last job, because they decided to switch to mac. If you can't comprehend why, try looking at this for example: 200 new pc's cost 200 x 600 euro's ( average price ) = 120.000 euro's. 200 new mac's cost 200 x 1300 euro's ( which was the exact price of the mac's in question ) = 260.000 euro's And I'm sure you're comparing apples to apples here, right? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.04.19 11:56:00 -
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At the risk of engaging an Apple fan - and Tippia nonetheless 
"Delivering a cost effective solution for equivalent hardware"
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.04.19 12:05:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:"Delivering a cost effective solution for equivalent hardware" One would think so, but then you have a look at the horror that is, say, a Dell workstation compared to a Mac Pro, and suddenly the world is turned upside down (well... as long as you're not stupid enough to buy your RAM from Apple, but Dell's prices are almost as obscene in that segment),
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.19 12:56:00 -
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How about Offering an open platform, that you can modify and use any way you want to, with any OS you fancy Allowing you to change broken parts, without having to send the whole computer to the menders How about ( if you're not technical enough to fix your own computer ) not being told to buy a new mac, if all you need is a new hard-drive or some new memory How about being able to change, if the current size doesn't suit you anymore How about not complaining that people "steal" sh*t from you, even though you admit ( Steve's biography ) to doing this yourself
I could go on, but i don't really feel the need to, give a handful of people a 1 hour brainstorm sessions though, and they will come up with a whole lot
Quote:On another note, i quit my last job, because they decided to switch to mac If you can't comprehend why, try looking at this for example 200 new pc's cost 200 x 600 euro's ( average price ) = 120.000 euro's 200 new mac's cost 200 x 1300 euro's ( which was the exact price of the mac's in question ) = 260.000 euro's And I'm sure you're comparing apples to apples here, right?[/quote
21.5-inch iMa Core i5 2.5GH Starting at $119 2.7 GHZ version $1499 = about 1330 euro'
ALTERNATE Mercurius P20 2.8 GHZ Core i 649 Euro'
Of course, granted, this does not include a monitor, but we already had those ( which is another nice thing about pc's
btw, Alternate is a Dutch computer firm that builds custom desktop and laptop computers, down to customer spec ( you know, the kind of service you don't really get from an Apple )
Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.19 12:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:but Dell's prices are almost as obscene in that segment
That word just says it all, obscene. I build my own pc, so should any decent company, involved in computer applications. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.19 14:40:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Statisticians use statistics much like a drunk uses a lamppost; more for propping themselves up than for illumination. Count the amount of people that work in that sector, add up all their salary's, divide by amount of people, get average salary. What's wrong with that? Okay...you've got one four-star chef, one high-end corporate tax lawyer (who also owns the restaurant)...two dishwashers...four waitresses and a cab driver...you're saying you can get a useable figure from that? The "average" income. You should come run as a Republican for president. They love that kind of math. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.04.19 14:53:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:How about Offering an open platform, that you can modify and use any way you want to, with any OS you fancy Allowing you to change broken parts, without having to send the whole computer to the menders You can do both of those, although the latter may be a bit limited depending on availability of parts that fits the slimmed-down chassis of some of the more integrated models.
Quote:How about ( if you're not technical enough to fix your own computer ) not being told to buy a new mac, if all you need is a new hard-drive or some new memory Good thing you're not told that with Macs either.
Quote:How about being able to change, if the current size doesn't suit you anymore Change what?
Quote:How about not complaining that people "steal" sh*t from you, even though you admit ( Steve's biography ) to doing this yourself No, the question is what can you do with PCs that you can't do with Macs. If you want to talk about leading figures, Bill did the same thing, after all, so we're getting awfully close to those glass houses here.
You really need to because you haven't come up with much so far. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.04.19 14:55:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:That word just says it all, obscene. I build my own pc, so should any decent company, involved in computer applications. Yeah, most companies disagree since it's not worth the hassle compared to buy them ready-made in bulk with a juicy service contract attached.
And, as mentioned, the obscenity is industry-wide (which probably has a lot to do with the target audience for the machines in question).
Quote:Of course, granted, this does not include a monitor So that's a GÇ£noGÇ¥ then, and the computer name itself came up with zero hits on google so a comparison is rendered quite difficult. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:and the computer name itself came up with zero hits on google so a comparison is rendered quite difficult.
http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/PC_Complete_Systemen_Thuisgebruik/ALTERNATE/Mercurius_P200/615157/?tn=BUILDERS&l1=PC-Systemen&l2=Thuisgebruik
Yeah, it's in dutch, but the price tag and the specs are not that hard to spot Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:45:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mark Androcius wrote:How about Offering an open platform, that you can modify and use any way you want to, with any OS you fancy Allowing you to change broken parts, without having to send the whole computer to the menders You can do both of those, although the latter may be a bit limited depending on availability of parts that fits the slimmed-down chassis of some of the more integrated models..
True, but why buy a mac, if you're gonna install Windows or Linux on it? Also, the other way around is illegal, according to the Apple EULA ( installing OSx on a PC ).
However, my main argument against Apple, is the fact that, if they were to be the biggest computer company in the world ( bigger then Microsoft based PC's ), everything would be sealed in and ready to use the way they want you to, not the other way around.
Steve Jobs said so himself ( although i can't remember which interview it was ), since when do people know what they want... While that might be true for most, it's certainly not true for me, i want a damn Amiga. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |

das licht
Echtzeit AG
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:54:00 -
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Mac is jail! You will realise it after a few years of usage. Hopefully. |

Psichotic
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:59:00 -
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Macs cost more than PCs because they are, generally speaking, better machines. That is not an opinion, it's a fact that I know not from articles or people telling me, but from my own experience. I have done computer support since 1993. That is almost 20 years of seeing what works and what does not. You get what you pay for. That is just as true for cars, homes, education and medical care as it is for computing.
While there is currently one widespread virus for the Mac, there isn't enough space in this forum to list all the viruses for Windows. More to the point, you can secure a Mac against said exploit whereas there is no way you can secure a Windows installation against the massive number of viruses that have been and are being written for it on a daily basis. Even using Windows update and updating your virus defs everyday will not truly protect you. Again, I know this because I have cleaned many hundreds of OS installations. I would say at least 95% of Windows installations used on a daily basis to access the Internet are infected with malware. Thus, if you are reading this on a PC, someone other than you most likely has backdoor access to your machine right now. Personally, I would not, and in fact do not, expose myself to that kind of risk.
PC hardware is also much more prone to failure because Apple uses better quality components than most PC manufacturers. It also produces the OS specifically to run on the hardware it sells, so in effect produces an entire system as opposed to a component of a system designed to be compatible with the other components of the entire system, thus guaranteeing hardware/software compatibility. More importantly for the average consumer is the fact that you can walk into an Apple store and have your computer fixed properly. That is well worth the extra cost in the long run.
I have 3 PCs and 3 Macs. I use the Macs for my daily work not because I have some weird affection for Apple (Apple is actually a terrible company to work for and there are more reasons to dislike them than most companies), but because I have been working with computers since 1993 and they are unquestionably better tools for the tasks I need to accomplish.
There is no video game worth compromising my critical data or the ability for me to do my job. If Eve didn't run on a Mac I simply wouldn't play it.
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