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Gin G Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.01.22 23:12:00 - [1] Amarr and there lazors are ment to e powerfull right watch this. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0AV5aY7HYAk&NR=1 ccp you have some splaining to do.
Rex Lashar Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.22 23:49:00 - [2] I disagree.
Arthur Frayn V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2009.01.22 23:59:00 - [3] I think the video was brilliant. I also think this means lasers should do kinetic damage.
Khandara Seraphim StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.01.23 00:01:00 - [4] even though its mostly stuff i knew already that was still a surprisingly interesting vid If anyone teaches physics to high schoolers this might be a decent resource, come to think of it
Opertone Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.23 00:05:00 - [5] no FFS, give caldari mass drivers with pure kinetic energy and let it be t3 caldari need some sort of gun to deal hi DPS and loose damage to range.
SentryRaven KIA Corp	Posted - 2009.01.23 00:05:00 - [6] That chap is lovely..... Like the videos... sh!te video quality, but nicely done..
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.01.23 00:07:00 - [7] So If I watched the video correctly, Amarrian Warships should instead be throwing rocks at the enemy?
Vabjekf	Posted - 2009.01.23 00:08:00 - [8] Ive always pretended that the lasers turn on and off really fast at different frequencies to find the resonance of the target and start doing damage by vibrating things.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2009.01.23 00:12:00 - [9] Edited by: Diek Ran on 23/01/2009 00:15:42 Originally by: 5pinDizzy So If I watched the video correctly, Amarrian Warships should instead be throwing rocks at the enemy? No they should use this or this which they can use already :)
Vabjekf	Posted - 2009.01.23 00:21:00 - [10] All they have to do is edit some text here and there to remove the word 'laser' and its good to go.
Shogun Archer Gallente Brotherhood of Soban CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2009.01.23 01:01:00 - [11] "The rock still hurts". Nice
Mekela	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:17:00 - [12] Lasers are focused light - light can heat things up (see the sun on a hot day) Solar flares do alot of emp damage (ask the phone company the next time there is a bunch of solar flares why the phones are having trouble) The only way you could possible get Kenitic damage is by having something sold hit something (light is waves not matter)
Galan Amarias Amarr The Drekla Consortium Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:19:00 - [13] Edited by: Galan Amarias on 23/01/2009 02:24:44 Originally by: Gin G Amarr and there lazors are ment to e powerfull right watch this. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0AV5aY7HYAk&NR=1 ccp you have some splaining to do. "Light" is a loose term when it comes to the L in Laser. After all Gamma Crystals may look blue but they are clearly firing into the Gama energy spectrum. Focus on the R, Laser or Particle stream, it's all high energy pain for those of you still flinging rocks. -Galan
Discrodia Gallente Guild Production	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:23:00 - [14] Wait for it: 1. All the other races will still be better. 2. Failed troll is failed 3. Partical blasters would now become WTFpwnage as they'd have superuber range. 4. Anyone who gilds their ships deserves to die. 5. GO ALIENS! I like whales... Did you notice this is my sig? _______________ I mine rocks. Bigass rocks. :D
Galan Amarias Amarr The Drekla Consortium Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Discrodia Wait for it: 1. All the other races will still be better. 2. Failed troll is failed 3. Partical blasters would now become WTFpwnage as they'd have superuber range. 4. Anyone who gilds their ships deserves to die. 5. GO ALIENS! Man free a few slaves and everyone gets upity.
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:41:00 - [16] Turret effects are a lag monster. According to my monitor, they got it right. I don't see anything
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:50:00 - [17] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 23/01/2009 02:50:35 Originally by: Khandara Seraphim even though its mostly stuff i knew already that was still a surprisingly interesting vid If anyone teaches physics to high schoolers this might be a decent resource, come to think of it Not really. He misses on a few points. Even lasers in the visible wavelengths would be invisible in space. Heck, they are almost always invisible to us on earth. Get a laser pointer and point it anywhere. Bet you will not see the beam at all and only the dot where it hits. You need something in between (e.g. smoke) to see the laser pass through the intervening space. As for Mass Drivers remember that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Want to toss a rock at hyper velocities? Great...all that energy will be pushing you backwards as hard as you are throwing it forwards. Don't believe me try and hold a howitzer when it fires and you'll learn that lesson the hard way. Not to mention carrying a lot of rocks (i.e. mass) around to throw is heavy and an exhaustible resource. Particle beams can be more powerful but require substantial power sources to be effective. If you have a sci-fi limitless power source then great. Otherwise, for a legitimate weapon particle beam today, expect to tote a small power station capable of lighting a small city around with you. Lasers avoid many of those problems. They can be powerful with relatively compact power sources. And unlike mass drivers do not run out of ammo. So, in our EVE spaceships, the engine running the ship is enough to run the lasers too. Heck, they have tested airborne lasers on earth where the plane generates sufficient power to run the laser. Give it some nice capacitors to charge up and you are good to go. Forgetting the fact this is a game and sci-fi a particle beam weapon would hit hard but you'd only be able ot fit a few per ship and they recharge painfully slowly. Always tradeoffs in physics.
Vabjekf	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:54:00 - [18] Edited by: Vabjekf on 23/01/2009 02:56:41 Light has pressure, so it has to be able to do kinetic damages. Also according to that one website i read a long time ago that explains what real space combat may be like, with science! They explained for example that a nuke going off in space, while making absolutly no 'shock wave' at all, would release a BUNCH of radiation (of which light is a kind), and all that radiation itself would be sufficient to SLAM into that space ship and really work over their structure somthin powerful, yo.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2009.01.23 03:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Vabjekf Edited by: Vabjekf on 23/01/2009 02:56:41 Light has pressure, so it has to be able to do kinetic damages. Light does exert pressure but it is a really, really, really (did I say really?) small effect. I do not think there'd be any noticeable damage from that effect. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Dau Imperius Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.23 03:41:00 - [20] I did not know purple was the more destructive of the human-eye visible lightwaves. Always good to learn new things. And yes mass drivers. Evil, evil things. I love it.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.01.23 04:20:00 - [21] Pft, If I want to oogle at mass drivers I'll open my curtains at rush hour.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.23 06:59:00 - [22] I raged when he said that red light was slower than blue light. lrn2c n00b
Antimony Noske	Posted - 2009.01.23 07:01:00 - [23] Edited by: Antimony Noske on 23/01/2009 07:03:38 Eve already has mass drivers. They're just called a different name - railguns.
Pliauga Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:38:00 - [24] <Nerd mode> Light does have pressure, but if affects only single atoms or molecules, so the end result is not kinetic damage, but the differentiated variety of the kinetic effect know as heat or thermal (damage). Mass accelerators, or any other weapon that uses energy directly to accelerate a solid object and toss it at the target are all grouped under the RAILGUN category in EVE (Note that railguns also include Gauss guns which are technically NOT railguns just as particle streams (depending on your definition of particle) are usually not considered to be lasers). I could go on, but who cares anyway, it's damn GAME! </Nerd mode> ---------- DRONE love rulez!! 'mkay?! .
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:49:00 - [25] Everybody knows that religious zealots equip AK-47s, not lasers.
Sneaky Tiger Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2009.01.23 10:12:00 - [26] And if you watch this, if you manage to kill a ceptor going 2000m/s, the wreck of this dead ceptor should keep moving. yea, CCP, splain!
Ivena Amethyst	Posted - 2009.01.23 10:32:00 - [27] eve already has mass drivers and particle blasters, they're called railguns and blasters (although reading the description on blasters it seems they messed up the physics a bit, eve blasters hypercharge plasma state mass inside the hybrid charges and fires a plasma ball held together by a forcefield or something like that)
Kazrm Caldari Abundance Industries The Economy	Posted - 2009.01.23 10:48:00 - [28] You know technically, a lot of the footage he used weren't lasers at all. Phasers from star trek are some kind of particle weapon, I'm pretty sure (I think it's phased plasma they're shooting, but somebody who's more of a Trekkie nerd should probably confirm). Actually, lasers in the Star Trek universe are pretty much a joke. Some of the Babylon 5 powers might use lasers (probably the lesser advanced humans), but I'm not entirely sure about all of them. They use kinetic weapons to defend the station itself. Good video though, I certainly enjoyed seeing all the various movie and TV footage from a lot of good sci fi. Actually, a lot of the sci fi stuff we see isn't so fictional. I know that the US military has laser weapons and railgun prototypes, the former for shooting down missiles in the booster stages (I remember years ago hearing about some kind of new "rubber" lens allowing them to change the focus and direction of a laser quickly on a moving plane), the latter as a sort of artillery (DARPA's been working on it for a while for the Army). No doubt a lot of other world powers have their own projects.
Fujiko MaXjolt Caldari Templar Republic Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.23 10:54:00 - [29] Originally by: Joss Sparq Everybody knows that religious zealots equip AK-47s, not lasers. I hear ya. Swap names/pics on minmatar and amarr and it'll be about right - religious zealots don't spend alot on looks of stuff, right ? Also, Mekela: Photons (which have alot to do with light) distinguish themselves by actually being both particles and waves. So you're not entirely right
Mia Sin Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.23 11:09:00 - [30] Actually, some of those Amarr guns are called things like Dual Anode Light Particle* Stream, Tachyon Anode Particle Stream... But then there are also things like Dual Afocal Heavy Maser* which don't make a whole lot of sense since a Maser is just a laser operating in the microwave range. Weird, since we all know that the "color" is decided by the frequency crystal used, not by the gun itself. Anyways, spaceship game :)

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